Arrested after speaking with a (cop) prostitute: what happens now?

like my dad always told me..........don't mess around with strippers and prostitutes....they are nothing but trouble ;)
 
Bobsmyth said:
The legal definition of procure in this sense means to obtain sexual partners for others. It has nothing to do with being a customer. Procure and hire are not interchangeable terms as you claim.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/procure

Correct, but you are not obligated to provide more information than what the court records show. The OP was convicted and pleaded guilty to a lesser charge. There's no reason for the IO to pursue the issue further unless the IO is not convinced of the OPs GMC.
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Do court documents usually record original charge? I think the police arrest report must have original charges.
 
WBH said:
Do court documents usually record original charge? I think the police arrest report must have original charges.
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Yes, that's what I was about to write.

The court file will have the whole thing, including the police report, arrest record, plea deal - everything. And USCIS requires all of it.
 
VisaNutz said:
Yes, that's what I was about to write.

The court file will have the whole thing, including the police report, arrest record, plea deal - everything. And USCIS requires all of it.
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I am not sure. Many applicants have the trouble that they can only get court
documents but not police arrest report. Court are open to the public so it is easy to get. Police report are at most semi-public.
 
WBH said:
The question actually reflect old obsolete attitude: It is wrong for a woman
to sell sex for a living but it is OK for a man to buy sex. I am surprized thsi question is still there without changing.
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Who said that you have to be a woman to sell sex???
 
This whole thing made me think about state vs federal laws. I guess immigration must be federal?
For example in NV prostitution is legal. It is regulated and taxed by the state. The sheriff dept is involved and very regulated. You need a license.

In CA, as in I think 13 other states medical marijuana is legal with a prescription. however the feds sometimes raid and arrest people even though they are legal by the state.

Conversely in UT until recently, they had draconian laws about alcohol and you could get trouble with the law for not consuming alcohol in the "officially" allowed ways. yet there are no federal restrictions.



So looking at the immigration application, I guess they follow federal guidelines. Of course if you are in a restrictive state like UT and are arrested for things that are allowed by the feds, then you have to deal with that too!
 
Bobsmyth said:
You pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct, not prostitution. Does the charge on your court document appear as disorderly conduct NY PC 240.20? If so, it's not a CIMT and in itself doesn't affect your moral character determination enough to deny your case.
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Hi bobsmith,

I ve 2 documents as evidence for my arrest:
The paper they gave me after they fingerprinted me , that shows only my arrest
# and
The paper they gave me in court that shows the fine amount and the date I've to pay it;

When I was inside a detention room I asked a CO to tell me what was the charge and she said :
"Patronizing a prostitute";

Wher do I see that my charges were downgraded
Into misdemanor?
Should I ask an additional document to the court?

I was thinking also to reopen the case: some poster said if you plaid not guilty the officers don't even show up in court and ur charges are dismissed;

Can you please advice?
 
Bobsmyth said:
That's incorrect. The question on the N-400 about prostitution asks if you were ever a prostitute or procured (pimped) anyone for prostitution. It doesn't ask if you ever used services of a prostitute.
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HI Bobsmith,

I found this on the internet last night: a charge with patronizig a prostitute
has been upgraded in 2007:
""Former Governor of New York Eliot Spitzer on June 6, 2007 signed into law legislation to prevent human trafficking and to suppress the demand for prostitution. New York’s punishment for patronizing prostitutes changed from a Class B misdemeanor (3 months jail/$500 fine) to a Class A (1 year jail/$1,000 fine) misdemeanor. """

I dont remember exactely what i plaid guilty about: is misdemanor or violation or disorderly conduct;

How do i find that out?

PLS advice, i know if the original puishement is more than 1,000$ i can be in trouble regarding N400 and traveling: can i travel and coming back with no problem?

thank you Bob
 
roberto gasta said:
I was thinking also to reopen the case: some poster said if you plaid not guilty the officers don't even show up in court and ur charges are dismissed;
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That is common for traffic tickets but not criminal charges.

However, if their evidence is weak they often do drop the case if you decide to challenge them in court.

What I don't understand is why you were so quick to plead guilty after being a visitor to this forum and seeing how being convicted of minor crimes can have devastating consequences to noncitizens. Or maybe the only threads you've been reading were your own?
 
Jackolantern said:
What I don't understand is why you were so quick to plead guilty after being a visitor to this forum and seeing how being convicted of minor crimes can have devastating consequences to noncitizens. Or maybe the only threads you've been reading were your own?
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If people erre that smart, they would not be even in a situation where they
need to decide to plead guilty or not
 
roberto gasta said:
""Former Governor of New York Eliot Spitzer on June 6, 2007 signed into law legislation to prevent human trafficking and to suppress the demand for prostitution. New York’s punishment for patronizing prostitutes changed from a Class B misdemeanor (3 months jail/$500 fine) to a Class A (1 year jail/$1,000 fine) misdemeanor. """
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That's rather ironic. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. :rolleyes:
 
roberto gasta said:
HI Bobsmith,

I found this on the internet last night: a charge with patronizig a prostitute
has been upgraded in 2007:
""Former Governor of New York Eliot Spitzer on June 6, 2007 signed into law legislation to prevent human trafficking and to suppress the demand for prostitution. New York’s punishment for patronizing prostitutes changed from a Class B misdemeanor (3 months jail/$500 fine) to a Class A (1 year jail/$1,000 fine) misdemeanor. """

I dont remember exactely what i plaid guilty about: is misdemanor or violation or disorderly conduct;

How do i find that out?

PLS advice, i know if the original puishement is more than 1,000$ i can be in trouble regarding N400 and traveling: can i travel and coming back with no problem?

thank you Bob
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Call the court and ask for the all the documents regarding your case. The court documents should show what you pleaded to. You may have been charged with patronizing a prostitute, but you were convicted (and pleaded guilty) to disorderly conduct.
 
WBH said:
If people erre that smart, they would not be even in a situation where they
need to decide to plead guilty or not
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Maybe that applies to this particular case, but in other cases sometimes people really are innocent but are pressured into pleading guilty so they can be released from jail or to avoid the possibility of several months in prison.
 
Jackolantern said:
Maybe that applies to this particular case, but in other cases sometimes people really are innocent but are pressured into pleading guilty so they can be released from jail or to avoid the possibility of several months in prison.
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WHat can people do? Even if you are innocent, only you youself know it.

Pleading to a lesser charge may be a better choice than being really
convicted for original charge. This has nothing to do with you are really innocent or not. It is all about techncality
 
WBH said:
WHat can people do? Even if you are innocent, only you youself know it.

Pleading to a lesser charge may be a better choice than being really
convicted for original charge. This has nothing to do with you are really innocent or not. It is all about techncality
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You said that if somebody is smart enough they won't be a in a position where they're faced with the choice of pleading guilty or not. My point was that people can end up in that situation even if they did nothing illegal or stupid.
 
Bobsmyth said:
Call the court and ask for the all the documents regarding your case. The court documents should show what you pleaded to. You may have been charged with patronizing a prostitute, but you were convicted (and pleaded guilty) to disorderly conduct.
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Hi Bob,
I called the court, the clerk told me I plaid guitly to a violation,

Is that a criminal record?
 
Jackolantern said:
You said that if somebody is smart enough they won't be a in a position where they're faced with the choice of pleading guilty or not. My point was that people can end up in that situation even if they did nothing illegal or stupid.
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Then what can you do? Just accept bad luck and resign to the reality
though you can put up a reasonably good enough fight. Many people
have miserable lives in this world and no gurantee our lives can be worse off
 
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