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valerio74 said:
He is smart, he want to suspend for a temporary period of time legal immigration, in this way he using economy as at an excuse saying millions of American people are now unemployed. I am worried no one will do anything
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Who are you talking about?
 
I found this about Trump's decision to halt the immigration:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...4e2440-838d-11ea-ae26-989cfce1c7c7_story.html

I have a concern about this quote as I thought a decision like this would need to be voted before it takes effect:
"For Trump’s executive order to have the kind of sweeping impact he appears to seek, it would have to direct the State Department and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to immediately stop issuing immigration visas and green cards"
 
Do you think it is likely interviews to take place in embassies and consulates abroad and wait until suspension is lifted to actually issue the visa (put AP meanwhile) ?
 
I have a concern about this quote as I thought a decision like this would need to be voted before it takes effect:
"For Trump’s executive order to have the kind of sweeping impact he appears to seek, it would have to direct the State Department and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to immediately stop issuing immigration visas and green cards"[/QUOTE]

It is an executive order, meaning that it does not need the vote from the congress,
 
That could be an option as they are talking about issuing the green card as well. It is hard to guess Trump's intentions as most of them are emotional ones
 
MyFavouriteThings said:
I have a concern about this quote as I thought a decision like this would need to be voted before it takes effect:
"For Trump’s executive order to have the kind of sweeping impact he appears to seek, it would have to direct the State Department and U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to immediately stop issuing immigration visas and green cards"
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It is an executive order, meaning that it does not need the vote from the congress,[/QUOTE]
Can he legally do that? if so he would have done it a while ago as immigration was one of his biggest hits in the previous elections
 
During the conference press at White House now he said that it should last 60 days and will affect green card issuing, so all it is suspended for 60 days. After this time they will valute the economy and will decide if reopen the issuing or continuing with this ban for another 30 days. But he also said that if things change in better before of 60 days they could stop that in 30 days . The executive order should be signed tomorrow .
 
valerio74 said:
During the conference press at White House now he said that it should last 60 days and will affect green card issuing, so all it is suspended for 60 days. After this time they will valute the economy and will decide if reopen the issuing or continuing with this ban for another 30 days. But he also said that if things change in better before of 60 days they could stop that in 30 days . The executive order should be signed tomorrow .
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Any link for this?

If all this is true, it means the dream is over for big numbers...
Not sure what to say, I was going to receive the 2NL in the last week of March so if they resume after the 60 days they will first process the cases that became current before me which might be tight ...
The hope starts the dwindle
 
WBA said:
It is an executive order, meaning that it does not need the vote from the congress,
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Can he legally do that? if so he would have done it a while ago as immigration was one of his biggest hits in the previous elections[/QUOTE]

He needs a valid legal reason to do so, and emergency situations such as COVID-19 are a perfect opportunity to do so.
 
MyFavouriteThings said:
Can he legally do that? if so he would have done it a while ago as immigration was one of his biggest hits in the previous elections

He needs a valid legal reason to do so, and emergency situations such as COVID-19 are a perfect opportunity to do so.
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He is clearly taking advantage of the coronavirus
I bet he is in his living room right now saying thankfully the epidemic came right on time to help me for the next elections
 
OMG,
Guys, it seems that we were lucky to win the lottery in the worst year for immigration.
Anyway, I still believe there is a chance. Corona stuff is getting a little better and maybe in a few weeks or a month the situation will drastically change for the better.
 
WBA said:
It is an executive order, meaning that it does not need the vote from the congress,
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Can he legally do that? if so he would have done it a while ago as immigration was one of his biggest hits in the previous elections
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If you followed the travel ban saga... yes he can, but it can be fought in court too if it’s deemed unconstitutional. Here is a timeline from the travel ban https://www.aclu-wa.org/pages/timeline-muslim-ban
 
SusieQQQ said:
If you followed the travel ban saga... yes he can, but it can be fought in court too if it’s deemed unconstitutional. Here is a timeline from the travel ban https://www.aclu-wa.org/pages/timeline-muslim-ban
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The example you provided is muslim specific so I would assume the muslim community would fight it, the current situation is not targeting any specific community so I don't see who would fight it, democrats probably?
I don't know if the decision is unconstitutional but to be fair, it makes sense from economy perspective. Why would America welcome additional people while Americans and local are not working and will soon start looking for work
I might look overwhelmed and sensitive now, I'm kind of pis*** off, I was dreaming of a promising career in IT in big corporations but now I need to reconsider everything and look for a plan B that I didn't expect...
I also know that anything could change any time but it is not easy to keep hope while things are only getting worst
 
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valerio74 said:
will affect green card issuing
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That is very unspecific terminology, the details of which will have to come out in the EO

valerio74 said:
he also said that if things change in better before of 60 days they could stop that in 30 days
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I wouldn't think there are any guarantees until at least the election...

WBA said:
to be fair, it makes sense from economic perspective. Why would America welcome additional people while Americans and local are not working and will soon start looking for work
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This specific EO is very limited in scope, and will make little to no difference (especially right now). It's a political play. Very unfair for the minority of people it directly affects, but overall will make little difference to the country other than to the political discourse.
 
WBA said:
The example you provided is muslim specific so I would assume the muslim community would fight it, the current situation is not targeting any specific community so I don't see who would fight it, democrats probably?
I don't know if the decision is unconstitutional but to be fair, it makes sense from economy perspective. Why would America welcome additional people while Americans and local are not working and will soon start looking for work
I might look overwhelmed and sensitive now, I'm kind of pis*** off, I was dreaming of a promising career in IT in big corporations but now I need to reconsider everything and look for a plan B that I didn't expect...
I also know that anything could change any time but it is not easy to keep hope while things are only getting worst
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I wasn’t debating the merits of the order, I was responding to your question of “can he do this” , where the answer is yes he can, if it’s within the constitution. Perhaps I should have left the real life example out if it.
 
amc_556 said:
That is very unspecific terminology, the details of which will have to come out in the EO


I wouldn't think there are any guarantees until at least the election...


This specific EO is very limited in scope, and will make little to no difference (especially right now). It's a political play. Very unfair for the minority of people it directly affects, but overall will make little difference to the country other than to the political discourse.
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You mean no difference to the whole DV experience or no difference to the USA?
I know it is unfair, I'm also thinking about those who paid all fees
 
Agree, that it doesn't make a lot of difference.
Because even if the US wants to hire Americans first, the immigrants wouldn't be an issue for the next 60 days due to a travel ban. Even though they get a green card, they will not be able to come to the US. Moreover, in a lot of cases, they will not start their work immediately, they will have to integrate to society first. Those immigrants who are now waiting for a green card in the US also don't make any difference, because they can already take the job if they permission to work in the US.
Thus, in some minor amount of the cases, yeah, it makes sense, but overall, the benefits of the immigration ban are very small.
 
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