Question regarding expired passport

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3DM

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Hi, we have applied for citizenship and got our FP done on 12/6. My questions is during interview do we need to show our passports? If yes, is it ok if the passport is expired.

My wifes passport is expired in June'08 and I am wondering whether to apply for her passport.


Thanks
3MD
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11/10/2008 - Mailed
11/13/2008 - PD
12/06/2008 - FP
 
3DM said:
Hi, we have applied for citizenship and got our FP done on 12/6. My questions is during interview do we need to show our passports? If yes, is it ok if the passport is expired.

My wifes passport is expired in June'08 and I am wondering whether to apply for her passport.


Thanks
3MD
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11/10/2008 - Mailed
11/13/2008 - PD
12/06/2008 - FP
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It's perfectly acceptable to bring your wife's expired passport. Unless she's planning on travelling abroad prior to her oath, there's no need to review it.

dms1: Yes, it's perfectly legal to be a GC holder and have an expired passport. Unless you are a frequent overseas traveler, it's not necessary to keep your passport valid at all times.
 
Expired passport with a valid gren card is more a issue related to the country of origin of the passport rather than USA immigration.

Though it should not effect your N-400 application you should get a valid passport in case of unforseen reasons you have to travel outside US ( during USCIS processing which is unpredictable in time line).

Best of luck for the application.

Now I have an intresting question for the long time GURUS of this forum,
hypothetically : if for some reason USCIS denies an N-400 application and wants to deport the person who applied, but whose passport is invalid what happens then.....

vik_b
 
vik_b said:
Now I have an intresting question for the long time GURUS of this forum,
hypothetically : if for some reason USCIS denies an N-400 application and wants to deport the person who applied, but whose passport is invalid what happens then.....

vik_b
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If a deportee holds citizenship in another country, s/he would still be deported, regardless of the validity of their passport. The country of citizenship would have to take him/her back.

I was thinking about a similar, albeit slightly more complicated, issue the other day. Is it possible to deport a stateless person? If yes, where?
 
Vorpal said:
If a deportee holds citizenship in another country, s/he would still be deported, regardless of the validity of their passport. The country of citizenship would have to take him/her back.

I was thinking about a similar, albeit slightly more complicated, issue the other day. Is it possible to deport a stateless person? If yes, where?
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It is possible if some other country is willing to accept that person and pay deportation-related expenses :) There were similar precedents, if I am not mistaken.
 
lazycis said:
It is possible if some other country is willing to accept that person and pay deportation-related expenses :) There were similar precedents, if I am not mistaken.
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I've heard similar opinions, but didn't think that they held any weight, as they didn't come from very knowledgeable sources. I've also heard that it's possible for an individual to be deported to the country they visited last, if any.

To Jane Green: What if the country of last known residence/citizenship refuses to take you back?
 
Vorpal said:
I've heard similar opinions, but didn't think that they held any weight, as they didn't come from very knowledgeable sources. I've also heard that it's possible for an individual to be deported to the country they visited last, if any.

To Jane Green: What if the country of last known residence/citizenship refuses to take you back?
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I hate to bring guantanamo base in this discussion but it is perfect example. I think there are some people under US custody there whose countries have refused to take them back. And since they were/are deemed not friendly to US the US govt wants them deported.

I think some cases are going to be taken by US supreme court. It would be an interesting decision.

vik_b

just a layman not a lawyer
 
Vorpal said:
To Jane Green: What if the country of last known residence/citizenship refuses to take you back?
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A person must be in a whole lot of trouble and officially stripped of citizenship for his/her country not taking him back.
I am a stateless person myself, with expired, never renewed passport, but on every immigration form I have to write a name of a country of my last residence as my citizenship (not same as my nationality). Since I never officially renounce my former citizenship, I am pretty sure they still count me as a citizen, somewhere, somehow, and by law must take and protect me.:rolleyes:
Hopefully I will never have to think about it.
Can’t wait to become a proud American!:D
 
Jane Green said:
A person must be in a whole lot of trouble and officially stripped of citizenship for his/her country not taking him back.
I am a stateless person myself, with expired, never renewed passport, but on every immigration form I have to write a name of a country of my last residence as my citizenship (not same as my nationality). Since I never officially renounce my former citizenship, I am pretty sure they still count me as a citizen, somewhere, somehow, and by law must take and protect me.:rolleyes:
Hopefully I will never have to think about it.
Can’t wait to become a proud American!:D
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In my family's case, my parents had to give up their citizenship in order to qualify for the refugee status. I remember reading somewhere about rare incidences where a deportee applied for special relief, due to the fact that they held no citizenship.
 
If you are stateless, there is no country on earth that has an obligation to accept you. Some may choose to accept you, but they don't have to.
 
Thanks - The only reason for not applying is

I think the discussion is taking some interesting turns.. I understand in case of emergencies we need to go to the Indian Consulate in Chicago and apply for passport based on emergencies, I think they'll issue a passport with one year validity.
The only reason I'm hesitant to apply for passport through post is whether I can get it back in time and safely. I renewed passports (my kid's and mine) and every time it was a nightmare dealing with Indian Consulate, they mispelled my name and I had to waste two days to get a new passport and in my kids case they had my name on his passport and his name as the father, then I actually had to fight with those guys to review the application (as they were blaming on the application), after wasting two more days and trips to Chicago I got it corrected.

If we get a chance probably we will visit Chicago to apply for passport and get it on same day. I'll just make sure to Make copie of the passpot pages with Travel dates.

Thanks
 
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