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fore

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I have been reading this board and quite honestly am concrened for the future of this country if this is a sampling of future citizens. You can't figure out some simple instructions on a form? Can't figure out how to open a joint bank account? Can't figure out that if the USCIS says "include this letter" with your response for an RFE it means include this letter? And finally, which part of "include copies of documents" don't you people get? Copies means NOT the originals? Can't figure out that you need a co-sponsor if you don't meet the requirement yourself?

Ughhh...
 
lol. That's a bit harsh. I guess everyone has his/her own way to vent their frustration.

If everything in the immigration process was so simple and easy, this forum would be redundant and wouldn't exist. Why are you here? Because you want to compare. Because you need answers. Some are more anxious than others. Some are more insecure than you and need to doublecheck.

Whatever it is, people can come here with their questions and leave more relaxed and relieved. It is not always about knowledge of things, but about peace of mind.
No need to judge. It's all good. :)
 
:D That's another one who is cracking up...LOL.
Opening a joint account is easy.... but getting bills with both names( bank, utility, phone...etc) is almost next to impossible without a SSN..
Not everyone has the resources that you and I have.Add the insecurity, the tension ,the lack of information and the misinformation given by half baked attorneys and the USCIS helplines and you can become a nervous wreck.
A majority of people sign on this portal hoping for some great news. When i sign on in the morning and see 201 posts...i kind of feel happy that there were 200 people along with me having a disturbed sleep and hoping to get a happy reply in the morning. :) . Have a great night.
 
fore said:
I have been reading this board and quite honestly am concrened for the future of this country if this is a sampling of future citizens. You can't figure out some simple instructions on a form? Can't figure out how to open a joint bank account? Can't figure out that if the USCIS says "include this letter" with your response for an RFE it means include this letter? And finally, which part of "include copies of documents" don't you people get? Copies means NOT the originals? Can't figure out that you need a co-sponsor if you don't meet the requirement yourself?

Ughhh...
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Fore -
You are the most ignorant of everyone here! You must not understand that the majority of people on here only know English as their second language so cut them some slack, this board is for helping people, Govt. forms can be complicated for even native English speakers. just because you know everything about the immigration process doesn't give you the right to come on here spewing ignorant garbage and insult those who are seaking help & advise from us who are experienced and more than willing to answer even the most basic questions.

What concerns me is fools like yourself that go arround , attempting to represent USA and if you represent the future of USA then USA is in a lot of trouble, I only pray that you don't have any children.

BELT UP YOU LITTLE FLEA & GO MUCK ABOUT SOMEWHERE ELSE!
take your judgemental arse out of here.
 
Addie well said! Just what I was thinking!

Fore, if you have nothing positive to contribute to this forum, why not find yourself someplace else!?!?!
 
fore said:
I have been reading this board and quite honestly am concrened for the future of this country if this is a sampling of future citizens. You can't figure out some simple instructions on a form? Can't figure out how to open a joint bank account? Can't figure out that if the USCIS says "include this letter" with your response for an RFE it means include this letter? And finally, which part of "include copies of documents" don't you people get? Copies means NOT the originals? Can't figure out that you need a co-sponsor if you don't meet the requirement yourself?

Ughhh...
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Agree with you!! But who said American Immigration System is "qualitative"?

People complain about H1B taking aways American Jobs, true fact is that most every day jobs are taken away by people coming in Family Based Immigration.

I did not say this, I read it in a transcript of a congressional hearing last year.
 
Oh ease up on Fore people, he/she has some points...a lot of questions here could be answered by the poster with 5 minutes worth of research...come on, how do I open a joint account?? :rolleyes:

Fore, you could have been a little uhmm, less abbrasive to get your point accross. Addie and indone, you guys need to chill out too and relax with the hyperbole.

This is classic message board behavior....Fore has some points, but no tact and ends up pissing off people...eveyone else goes ballistic with negative comments without aknowledging the points made....
 
eddie_d said:
Oh ease up on Fore people, he/she has some points...a lot of questions here could be answered by the poster with 5 minutes worth of research...come on, how do I open a joint account?? :rolleyes:

Fore, you could have been a little uhmm, less abbrasive to get your point accross. Addie and indone, you guys need to chill out too and relax with the hyperbole.

This is classic message board behavior....Fore has some points, but no tact and ends up pissing off people...eveyone else goes ballistic with negative comments without aknowledging the points made....
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The only point he made was that there are ingnorant arses lurking on message boards, why is fore even here? the message board is here to help people, it is not always obvious on how they can best organise their questions , and maybe they need to come here to know where to start that research, I do agree that most of the process is commen sense, however i am a native English speaker & have 6 years of college education , so my comprehension may be better than some non native english speakers, Tell me Eddie How do you open a Joint account in Asia?? What you don't know?

I will NOT cut fore any slack,and I will not chill out, because he/she chose to spew before really understanding the purpose this message board serves and the demographic of those that post here.
 
What OP said made some point. There are a lot of complicated questions people can not have answer for, therefore they ask on this board, which is fine. On the other hand, there are also a lot of easy questions that 10 sec googling can find answers for, or the same questions asked over and over and searching this board gives them quick answer, but some of them doesn't even try to do so.

They should learn to do research before jumping onto board to ask question. Hope new FAQ will help for it.
 
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it looks to me that the q&a is the same as before. and even that section doesn't have some questions and other good stuff. it should also have have some kind of roadmap.

and let's face it, theory says A and reality says B. some people here send in applications that are misisng half the forms and still get accepted. others send in everything and because the immigration agent don't really understand something, say hello to six months of delay.

many have perhaps even prevented deportation or a wait of years or saved thousands of dollars because of this forum. also, some banks will do everything for you with few documents, and others will need tons of documents and have you do almost all the work. some will not give you anything you get ead or even social security number, others will give you almost everything with just a matricula.

like you spoke of me whan you said, "must include this letter." see, the info is another state and if i could save a few dollars and time and eliminate the risk of having it lost in the mail by having my joint sponsor sending in a copy, why not? and i am new at this. maybe some have sent in copies and that was enough.

and virus, i thought people like you not only want immigration, you want more. you just want it legally. then what is the problem?

so yes, we all deal with the IRS. and that is another disaster known to humanity. even accountants have issues with understanding the IRS. the same with us. so perhaps there should be a better faq. and don't forget that every office or center works differently. some are very good and others are just horrible. some are beyond slow and others are beyond slow.

and i trust that you now see how complex the issue is, that you won't do a lou dobbs. mr. dobbs complaints about illegal immigration and says he wants more immigration. but he never actually talks about improving the system. rather than making fbi name checks fast and easy, he tlaks how is possible for tewrrorist to get a green card. he tlaks about peopel having to wait over 10 years just to get a green card, but never actually talks about eliminiating retro. he one pathetic sbhuman, i hope you don't become like him.
 
fore said:
I have been reading this board and quite honestly am concrened for the future of this country if this is a sampling of future citizens. You can't figure out some simple instructions on a form? Can't figure out how to open a joint bank account? Can't figure out that if the USCIS says "include this letter" with your response for an RFE it means include this letter? And finally, which part of "include copies of documents" don't you people get? Copies means NOT the originals? Can't figure out that you need a co-sponsor if you don't meet the requirement yourself?

Ughhh...
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I actually share some of your points and then again, it's not that easy.

Since I can hardly judge the insanity of other people here on this board please allow me to take me myself and I as an example.

I consider myself educated, speak english as a second language quite fluently and read the informations available here and elsewhere on the internet before asking questions. Funny enough, the informations available are not always accurate and helpful, some are being contradictory and the likelyhood of misinterpretation is high.

Take the DMV in my state. How to apply for a DL without having an SSN or an EAD ?
I got 3 different answers from 3 different officers and quite funny, the way they finally had me applying, was the 4th way nobody told me before, let away informations you could find online. So, the question is, how insane is this state agency run by US citizens ?

Take the IRS. How to file taxes jointly without having an SSN or an EAD ?
I got 2 different answers from local officers, another answer from their own FAQ and finally an answer from their Hotline. The last one sounded the most reasonable to me and that's how we finally filed. It wasn't correct either though and it took some time to iron out that entire IRS file. As far as I know there are only USC employed at IRS, a federal agency. How insane are these people ?

The story on how I finally managed to get a bank account, jointly with my wife, is pretty much the same. The more people you ask the more answers you get. I finally talked to this hispanic bank manager, so I don't know about their policy on hiring only US citizens. But funny, this lady gave me a correct info about procedures and requirements. Maybe she was the only one being insane in her bank.

And this was just three episodes of my story. There are gazillion of people out there with different stories and x-fold episodes and they have one thing in common. They want to know what to do and they ask questions. To call them insane is more than just a stretch.

That's why legions of immigration lawyers are contacted and that's, besides other things, is the reason why this forum exists.
So, what is your excuse of being here ?
 
rex1960 said:
How to apply for a DL without having an SSN or an EAD ?
... was the 4th way
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Hi I am another of the insane guys...
I happened to be at the DMV the other day and decided to check out..How to apply for a DL without having an SSN or an EAD?Initially I said all I have is my foreign drivers license. They said Go ahead and drive so long as your I-94 is valid . I asked for authority..the lady connected me to her husband,,,working in Highway patrol..That guy too said the same...Foreign License valid however if you take employment you have 30 days to get a state license.When I said what if i am self employed...he laughed and said I hope I don't catch you....
So seriously Will you please PM ( coz.. I don't want to tell this little secret to the sane ones) the 'insane' 4th way and the other 3 answers. :D
 
Addie_Goodvibes said:
The only point he made was that there are ingnorant arses lurking on message boards, why is fore even here? the message board is here to help people, it is not always obvious on how they can best organise their questions , and maybe they need to come here to know where to start that research, I do agree that most of the process is commen sense, however i am a native English speaker & have 6 years of college education , so my comprehension may be better than some non native english speakers, Tell me Eddie How do you open a Joint account in Asia?? What you don't know?

I will NOT cut fore any slack,and I will not chill out, because he/she chose to spew before really understanding the purpose this message board serves and the demographic of those that post here.
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What I meant was the hyperbole as in "I pray you don't have any children". That's a little harsh for someone who gave an opinion.

Also, for every immigrant applying who may have limited English and not know the US ways, there is a USC sponsoring them who has lived here for a minimum of 3 years, shoud theoretically speak English and should know how to open a bank account by now.
 
eddie_d said:
What I meant was the hyperbole as in "I pray you don't have any children". That's a little harsh for someone who gave an opinion.

Also, for every immigrant applying who may have limited English and not know the US ways, there is a USC sponsoring them who has lived here for a minimum of 3 years, shoud theoretically speak English and should know how to open a bank account by now.
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Sure, eddie.
But how do you explain your very own questions you addressed here on this forum ? Lack of english ? Lack of understanding ?

In case you need a reminder
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=218427
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=220029

Nothing you couldn't find out with at least some effort of research and reading. Give me a break and think about it.
Maybe you want to rephrase your defense for the thread starter.
 
I think sometimes, we just want be listened to and get comfort from people who really understand what are you going through. Yes, the USC sponsors can help, but they don't have the full understanding of how much this will affect our lifes: both my grandma and grandpa passed away during the years I was in US. I haven't seen my parents in three years. I can't all blame in on USCIS, it was I who did not have the guts to go back and risk my education. My husband helped me during the process, but he is more rational with the whole process. That's why I like to come here (even though I don't write a lot) and see comfort knowing you are not alone. And i admit some questions here are more simple than others, but their answers are likely to be simple too and it means a alot to the person who is seeking help. So why not? Just like in real life, you can give other's a hand even when you know they will be able to manage in the end. To me, the helping and being helped mattered most. I considered myself educated with a PhD and all, but I am very happy when my simple questions are answered here!
 
rex1960 said:
Sure, eddie.
But how do you explain your very own questions you addressed here on this forum ? Lack of english ? Lack of understanding ?

In case you need a reminder
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=218427
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=220029

Nothing you couldn't find out with at least some effort of research and reading. Give me a break and think about it.
Maybe you want to rephrase your defense for the thread starter.
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Yeah, OK. Show me a web site that tells me definitively what dates are refered to and the exact wording that a 797 should have.

On the other hand go to any bank's website and it will give you step by step insructions on opening a joint account.

Not the same thing.
 
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