Using AP will nullify my H1 Status ?

kumarvalluri

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Hi Forum members ,

I am in a sense of confusion since i have recently visited
India on a family emergency using Adance Parole.

does this make my H1 status valid till 2005 invalidated

and by default using AP switches ur status from H1 to EAD , is this True. please advise me. so that i can renew my EAD
even though i havent used EAD till now.

Regards

Kumar Valluri
 
Hi,
This is not true using AP does not change your status from H1 to EAD.
Thanks
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If you have any doubt, please talk to your lawyer.
 
My lawyer told me that I will lose H1-B status once I use AP on my way back into US. I have been seeing conflicting reports at different places. Can somebody please point to a dependable source to clarify ....

Thx
 
Originally posted by All_names_are_reserved
My lawyer told me that I will lose H1-B status once I use AP on my way back into US. I have been seeing conflicting reports at different places. Can somebody please point to a dependable source to clarify ....

Thx

Why would you use AP if you have valid H1 status?

I thought the problem was that if you use *EAD* then your H visa is invalid which means you have to have/use AP to re-enter the US?

I'm sort of in this boat -- I have an EAD but I also have a valid H1 visa so I'm using this to work for now so I don't have to renew the EAD and get AP every 10 months or so.

I think that as long as the original poster hasn't used his EAD then he can re-enter on his H visa (obtaining a new I-94 stamp). If he's already used AP to re-enter then I don't know (but see this thread: http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?postid=717529#post717529).

ETA
 
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ETA-GC

Why would you use AP if you have valid H1 status?

Some people have the valid H1 through the I129(Notice of action) but have not stamped the Visa in the passport hence they have to either go to the consulate when they go back home or they can use the AP to come back. Given the issues of getting H1 stamped in the embassy nowadays it looks like a safe bet to come back in AP, but as the original poster said will it nullify the H1 status when you come back using AP?. Any response to this context of question would be appreciated.
 
Hi Titan,

Thanks for ur response but let me clarify certain things which i should have done long back when i posted for the first time.

Any way here is the situation i left to india and came back using AP but when i left US i was having H1 approved document with me which was valid till 2005 nov. while leaving US i gave the I-94 on the approval notice at the airlines desk.

Due to lack of time as i was going on a 2 week visit to india
i didnt go for consulate stamping of h1 visa on my passport.

As of now i do not have h1 stamped on my passport . all that i have is a approval notice of H1 with which i was working all these years.

As regards to the EAD i havent used any where , given the situation please help me understand if my H1 status is still valid
or i have automatically switched to EAD because of using AP.

When i was at Sanfrancisco airport at Port of entry on return the officer stamped for 1 year , what does this indicate .
Its very hard to understand what is right and what is wrong
as Immigration services in US are run by a bunch of Fat brain professors.

Kumar
 
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Originally posted by kumarvalluri
Hi Titan,

Thanks for ur response but let me clarify certain things which i should have done long back when i posted for the first time.

Any way here is the situation i left to india and came back using AP but when i left US i was having H1 approved document with me which was valid till 2005 nov. while leaving US i gave the I-94 on the approval notice at the airlines desk.

Due to lack of time as i was going on a 2 week visit to india
i didnt go for consulate stamping of h1 visa on my passport.

As of now i do not have h1 stamped on my passport . all that i have is a approval notice of H1 with which i was working all these years.

As regards to the EAD i havent used any where , given the situation please help me understand if my H1 status is still valid
or i have automatically switched to EAD because of using AP.

When i was at Sanfrancisco airport at Port of entry on return the officer stamped for 1 year , what does this indicate .
Its very hard to understand what is right and what is wrong
as Immigration services in US are run by a bunch of Fat brain professors.

Kumar


Okay as far as i know and read alot of forum discussion on this issue, just by using AP will NOT change your status to EAD (or pending AOS) but if you use EAD card then your status is "PENDING AOS" and can no longer use H-1b. So if your concern is what status are you in then you are still on H-1b however your i-94 card will have a "Parolee" on it which is fine if you dont care about H-1b stamp for travelling. Just using AP doesn't revoke/cancel your H-1b status but using EAD does.

One thing that i have asked and never got any feedback is what if you used AP for some emergency and were unable to go for stamp then can you go next time outside the US and get H-1b stamped as you previously used AP?


hope that helps
 
Hi 2hard2getGC,

Thanks for clearing me From this confused state and clearing things on uisng AP .

Regards
Kumarvalluri
 
Travel on AP ad work on H1

Got this from murthy forum, hope this clears the confusion:

Yes, you can continue working for same employer on H1, if you change employer then its different issue. Use of AP alone does not nullify H1 Visa. Been there done that, I have been through this with out an issue so far.

http://www.murthy.com/UDnewins.html

INS Guidance on H-1 / L-1, EAD and Advance Parole

Prior to July of 1999, all adjustment applicants were required to obtain advance parole authorization before traveling outside the United States. A person with a pending I-485 application and without an advance parole at the time of reentry after foreign travel was deemed to have abandoned the adjustment application. That policy changed from July of 1999, as previously reported in the MurthyBulletin, to allow persons in valid H-1, L-1, H-4 or L-2 status to maintain that status even after filing for adjustment of status (I-485) and to use H or L visas (instead of advance parole) for travel.

Generally, H-1 and L-1 non-immigrants and their dependents in H-4 or L-2 status who have adjustment applications pending may be readmitted into the United States in the H or L status, provided they are in possession of a valid H-1 or L-1 nonimmigrant visa, and the original I-797 receipt notice for the application for adjustment of status, and they continue to remain eligible for the H-1 or L-1 classification. All other non-immigrants with pending applications for adjustment of status must obtain advance parole authorization prior to traveling outside the United States.

On May 16, 2000 the INS provided further clarification on how they were going to view the interim rule and provided several points.

- For purposes of approval of the I-485, those who are on the H-1 or L-1 status are required to prove their intent to work for the petitioning employer in their employment-based adjustment of status case, even though they can obtain the non-restrictive work authorization (EAD).

- If an H-1 or L-1 holder decides to file for and obtain the EAD but keeps working for the same company, he/she is still in valid H-1 or L-1 status and able to extend the H-1 or L-1 as needed (up to the maximum allowable time on that status). The mere fact of obtaining the EAD does not affect one's status; only if the person uses the EAD to take on another job, would he/she no longer be considered to be maintaining H or L status.

- If a person obtained an EAD and then went to work for another company while waiting for the completion of her/his adjustment case, that action would effectively terminate the H-1 or L-1 status of the beneficiary and she/he would have to file for advance parole to travel. The H-1 or L-1 holder would not be able to renew the H-1 or L-1 status in this situation.

- An H-1 or L-1 holder who entered the United States on advance parole can apply for an extension of H or L status, and the approval of that extension would enable the person to return to the U.S. on H-1 or L-1 status. (To maintain that status, the person cannot seek outside employment.)

- An H-1 or L-1 holder who travels out of the United States, and returns on advance parole, is authorized to continue working for the H-1 or L-1 employer. He/she would not be required to obtain an EAD to work for this same employer, within the validity dates of the H-1 or L-1 petition approval.

- If an H-1 or L-1 holder presents both advance parole documents and documents of valid H-1 or L-1 status at the port of entry to the U.S., the INS Inspector should tell the person that she/he is not required to present the advance parole, and admit the person to the U.S. on the H-1 or L-1 status.

- An H-1 or L-1 holder who has entered the U.S. with an advance parole document may depart and return as an H-1 or L-1 holder if that status has not expired.

The May 2000 INS memo implies that the new INS regulations will be consistent with the information above. The Law Office of Sheela Murthy, P.C. applauds the INS for issuing clear guidance on this important matter
 
Another Clarification from a Lawyers Site

AP Travel and Work in US


If I return to the U.S. using my advance parole, to what date will I be admitted?
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Prior to 9/11 and the increase in security concerns in the United States, adjustment applicants returning on an advance parole were admitted "indefinitely" or "duration of status (D/S)" and were not admitted to a date certain._ Since 9/11, adjustment applicants paroled into the U.S. to resume their applications have been issued Forms I-94 that are valid for a date certain that usually corresponds to one year from the date of entry or to the end date of the parole authorization._ These dates do not reflect the end of your status in the U.S._ As an individual with a pending adjustment of status application who is paroled into the U.S., you have status as an adjustment applicant until a decision is reached on your application to adjust status._ Therefore, the fact that the Form I-94 may be expired or expiring has no bearing on your continued status and right to remain in the U.S._ Please keep in mind that you must have a valid Advance Parole document in your possession each time you depart the U.S. that will be valid at the time of your return.
 
Question for Titan

Hi Titan,

Thanks for posting the good clarifications regarding the use of AP..... Now i will ask my question that i never got any answer so here it is

What if the person uses AP to make a quick and emergency travel and also that person has a valid H-1b in hand but not stamped lets say the H-1b extension and it isn't stamped. Now by using AP your h-1b status doesn't change but can you go back to your home country and apply H-1b visa after previously using AP? Any information regarding that? does consulates/embassies stamp them or you must need AP to travel after using it the first time?

Thanks
 
Re: Question for Titan

Originally posted by 2hard2getGC
Hi Titan,

Thanks for posting the good clarifications regarding the use of AP..... Now i will ask my question that i never got any answer so here it is

What if the person uses AP to make a quick and emergency travel and also that person has a valid H-1b in hand but not stamped lets say the H-1b extension and it isn't stamped. Now by using AP your h-1b status doesn't change but can you go back to your home country and apply H-1b visa after previously using AP? Any information regarding that? does consulates/embassies stamp them or you must need AP to travel after using it the first time?

Thanks


Just a thought, can't you get your passport stamped here in US? It's only an extension. That might be a safer route than travelling to home country and applying for stamp.
 
Found this in Murthy's rumour webpage.
http://www.murthy.com/rumor.html

Rumor : If one has a valid H1B visa from the employer, and is waiting for approval of I -485, s/he must use Advance Parole to travel abroad and reenter. Posted February 03, 2003

Clarification : If a person has an H1B petition approval and the H1B visa stamp in the passport which has not yet expired, the advance parole (AP) is not required. There is a potential risk that the employer may withdraw the job offer when the person is traveling abroad. If this occurs, s/he will be stuck abroad and will need to have a new employer file a new H1B petition. There is also a risk that the green card will be approved while the person is out of the country. In this situation, the H1B becomes invalid and generally cannot be used to reenter the U.S. Filing and obtaining the AP enables one to return even if the sponsoring employer decides to revoke or withdraw the H1B petition or the green card is approved while the person is abroad.
 
Re: Question for Titan

I really dont know the answer to this question. I will also keep digging more. If you find anything then please post it also.

My 2 cents: If you used AP and now if you go to the embassy for H1 extension then you are implying that you are keeping your work option open. I dont know whether consular will buy that since you already revealed the AOS plan. I guess we need some legal opinion!, Any lawyers please?.

Originally posted by 2hard2getGC
Hi Titan,

Thanks for posting the good clarifications regarding the use of AP..... Now i will ask my question that i never got any answer so here it is

What if the person uses AP to make a quick and emergency travel and also that person has a valid H-1b in hand but not stamped lets say the H-1b extension and it isn't stamped. Now by using AP your h-1b status doesn't change but can you go back to your home country and apply H-1b visa after previously using AP? Any information regarding that? does consulates/embassies stamp them or you must need AP to travel after using it the first time?

Thanks
 
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