Urgent RTD question!!!!!!! Need help!!!

Mauricio22! Let me clarify two things which should be obvious to ALL of US who come to this forum.

1. We are "Asylees" (hello.... not US citizens)
2. We are NOT Attorneys

For you information, if you don't already know, Rules are totally different for Asylees vs. US Citizens. Therefore opinions expressed by people on this forum automatically take Asylee status of forum members in light.

A US citizen traveling on US passport is very different than a poor Asylee traveling on RTD (when most I/O's are confused dealing with this document). And "ASylees" who travel on their home country's passport come under suspicious light... Please note I said "Asylees" NOT "US naturalized citizens". And in a similar context when somebody is switching these two documents in travel "might" come under suspicion.
When we all would become US citizens, we will not be on this forum ( I have seen people disappear right after GC let alone citizenship)

And once more for kind knowledge of all " I am not an ATTORNEY". Rather nobody is an attorney on this forum (unless somebody explicitly says). So if you do not find this info useful or are afraid of it, Please DO NOT return.

Good luck to everyone.
 
Thank you!

You were more specific now. The thing is that i can see you are a faily old and experienced member of this forum and people will consider your opinions more than that of other participants. However,I still don't think that switiching passports is a "criminal offense" like you said- that looks really scary. You also said "And "ASylees" who travel on their home country's passport come under suspicious light
That sounds better. Even returning to home country is acceptable under some circumstances and can be explained. Traveling with 2 documents is the same case. anyway, I really appreciate all your comments here in this forum.
it's great that you share your experience and resources with others, since we are all on the same boat!! ;-) :) ;)
Lazerthegreat said:
Mauricio22! Let me clarify two things which should be obvious to ALL of US who come to this forum.

1. We are "Asylees" (hello.... not US citizens)
2. We are NOT Attorneys

For you information, if you don't already know, Rules are totally different for Asylees vs. US Citizens. Therefore opinions expressed by people on this forum automatically take Asylee status of forum members in light.

A US citizen traveling on US passport is very different than a poor Asylee traveling on RTD (when most I/O's are confused dealing with this document). And "ASylees" who travel on their home country's passport come under suspicious light... Please note I said "Asylees" NOT "US naturalized citizens". And in a similar context when somebody is switching these two documents in travel "might" come under suspicion.
When we all would become US citizens, we will not be on this forum ( I have seen people disappear right after GC let alone citizenship)

And once more for kind knowledge of all " I am not an ATTORNEY". Rather nobody is an attorney on this forum (unless somebody explicitly says). So if you do not find this info useful or are afraid of it, Please DO NOT return.

Good luck to everyone.
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TO Lazerthegreat

Hi Lazerthegreat. I want to disagree with you. Asylees can travel with their home passport as long as they have a valid RTD to return. As a proof just follow the link and find one of the conditions under the Gaining LPR Status as an Asylee which says:

Proof of any absences from the U.S. since you have been granted asylum. For example: photocopies of pages in refugee travel document or passport

http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/RefAdjust/index.htm

Don't forget u are not US citizen and still a citizen of your country. INS have no legal right to remove ur passport or prevent you from using it. None of the documents states that Asylees can not use their national passport.
 
Ayyubov..WAke up man! what u smoking these days? You said Asylum grants by Judges get their GC's faster and now ur saying its ok for asylees to use their national passport...Like DUh..they ask u specifically if you have renewd your national passport in the RTD application...IF u say YES..U have to give reason..WHY?? Right? LIke duh man! Duh ..BIG DUH..!!!!! BIggest duh!

That piece of article u mentioned was written in stone ages..USCIS Is known for contradicting itself..
 
Man I wasn't talking about renewing ur national passport. I was talkiing about using it for traveling outside. It's differnet. And I don't smoke
 
That piece of article u mentioned was written in stone ages..USCIS Is known for contradicting itself..[/QUOTE]

Do u have any document stating that asylees can not use their passport??? If yes I would love to read it. If not then do not make up something.
 
Mauricio22! Thanks for your kind comments. Of course we all trying to accomplish the same thing.. i.e. to help each other.

I am a type of person who would warn you that you would get a ticket at 40MPH even though speed limit is 45MPH. Thats just being over-cautious.

There are many things which our forum members speak from their direct experiences or observance of other's experiences. I have been watching this forum more than 5 years now and I always try to over-caution people.

When people ask for written proofs of various legalities, they are mistaken. Alteast in case of Asylum Law which is basically based on Humanitarian grounds. Like it or not, we were all granted "Mercy" by US Government and allowed to live as ASylees. Having said that Asylum law is mostly based on mercy, many of its provisions are based on Human Emotions rather than definite stand points. That is where problem comes.
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Let me clarify by giving you a Quiz:

Question) Can you go back to your home country after granted Asylum on servere Humanitarian grounds?
Answer) Yes you can (can you believe this? Read old posts and people have gone back for dying relatives after ASylum but before GC using Advance Parole)

Now time for FINAL EXAM:

Question) Can you have your Asylum revoked or worse yet deported for going back to your home country?
Answer) Yes you can be!
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Therefore plz do not insist to be provided proofs that where it is written that National passport cannot be used or can be used. It is written NOWHERE. But there are common sense indications that CIS "hates" people using NP's. (Read application for RTD where they specifically ask you for NP renewal and travel to home country)

I can promise you that above questions asked by CIS are not for kicks. They mean business.

Good luck to everybody and I will keep helping people from whatever I have learnt from this forum. I except others also to share their Real World experiences. Because sometimes these are more valuable than Lawyer's advice.

Best Wishes,
 
I don't understand why INS should hate people for using their passports. I know that they don't like us anyway :). U know what in this case they can hate us for traveling outside even without using NP. Or hate us for not renewing Employment Authorization card even though we don't have to anymore. I think some of you people just have a paranoya.
 
What

I dont know what I/O you meant but it looks like they were on crak dude..

You must use your RTD to travel and if you are going to third world country take your RTD to the country's embassy and get a visa on your RTD NOT NP..
 
I don't think anyone including attorneys can agree with this topic. Some lawyers told asylees that they can renew thier national passport and others strongly disagree.

I discovered below article that talked about such topics. Please read below:

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If you have won asylum and are thinking about traveling outside the United States, you should consult with an attorney before doing so. Even though you now have asylee status here, every time that anyone other than a U.S. citizen travels abroad, the U.S. government can review your entire immigration record and determine whether or not to let you back into the United States. As an asylee who is thinking about traveling abroad, some important issues to be aware of are:

Do not return to the country from which you won asylum. Doing so will probably lead the U.S. to conclude that you no longer fear returning to your country and is likely to lead to your asylum status being revoked. Even after you receive legal permanent residence in the United States, it is best not to travel back to your country.

Do not travel with the passport issued by the country from which you won asylum. Doing so can lead the U.S. to conclude that you have availed yourself of the protections of your country and can lead to your asylum status being revoked. If you must travel, you have to apply for a Refugee Travel Document.
Do not travel with a Refugee Travel Document that will expire while you are outside the United States. The U.S. government is not required to renew your Travel Document while you are abroad and you may not be able to get back into the U.S

Even if you apply for and receive a Refugee Travel Document, this does not guarantee that you will be allowed back into the U.S. after you conclude your travel. The inspector at the airport or border crossing can look at your entire immigration record to decide whether you are “inadmissible.” You could be denied re-entry for any of the following reasons:


You originally entered the United States without inspection (for example crossing the Mexican border)
You originally entered the United States with false documents
You were “out of status” for more than six months in the United States (for example more than 6 months passed between the date you were supposed to leave the U.S. and the date you applied for asylum)
You are HIV-positive
You have been convicted of a crime in the U.S.
Practically speaking, many asylees who fall under one of the above categories, have traveled abroad without problems. The most conservative advice, however, is that you should consult with an attorney before traveling and if any of the above issues applies to you, don’t travel abroad until you receive your “green card.”

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or you can check out the URL http://www.lgirtf.org/template.php?pageid=165

Although the above article is not an official legal document, you can use it as precaution.
 
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