*******TRANSCRIPT of DEPOSITION - PAUL PIERRE********

Rajiv, thanks for all your efforts!!!

imho, we are wasting time in depositions. if they don't know why there is delay, then how can they fix the delay. hope we are not playing into their hands. can't we do something with what we already know. thanks.

btw, why don't they send the people that "knows"???
 
dumb people running INS

tmc said:
imho, we are wasting time in depositions. if they don't know why there is delay, then how can they fix the delay. hope we are not playing into their hands. can't we do something with what we already know. thanks.

btw, why don't they send the people that "knows"???
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Now we know why this whole thing is in a mess. Cause these dumb people run the show up there with no clue as to whats going on. Very typical of some of the fat corporations that thrive in this country. I think the dumb charade that she was probably playing is also a way to not give much information to Mr. Khanna that can be used against them. Its all the tactic to delay and prolong this thing as much as possible so that we guys get tired and lose our patience. As Bush Says, I will quote him" Our resolve is strong and our path difficult, but we will not falter".

good luck to all engaged in this fight.
 
frostrated said:
Did she really not know answers to the questions we put forth to her? Or is it likely that she feigned ignorance to avoid implicating herself?
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This is looking like another Enron to me. "Ignorance is bliss".
What did she expect the deposition will be for ? Is she just a figure-head ?

She should be charged for "Withholding information". Another case must be filed for that simultaneously.
 
operations said:
In all delay cases, our best hope is the agency itself will correct itself. I want you to read the transcript of our class action hearing. The court asked me, if we win, what can the court do? Also read the cases that we have put online on the litigation page on immigration.com
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Rajiv,

As consumers, can we fight our cases in consumer court? If millions of applicants go to consumer court, don't you think the issue will be in the news media.
 
Anyway, I plan to write to ombudsman when the deposition of FO is available. Usefulness or not, I will show the ombudsman how impotent the USCIS officer is.
 
they create memos and sign them and say they dont know anything ?

how can fuji ohata come and say in court that she doesnt know the technical aspects after a signing a concurrent filing memo, messing up alot of people delaying their 140s along with the 485s and leaving ac21 hanging in the air. after all dont they read what they sign ? i think she is giving people BS to avoid saying something wrong in court or just delay the whole process. i guess know one wants to take any responsibility for the mess.
 
Documents from Congressional Hearing.

Rajiv,

I found the following link, transcripts of congressional hearing (under oath).

http://www.house.gov/judiciary/94287.PDF
http://www.house.gov/judiciary/immigration.htm

I went over the document over the weekend, I thought the following were interesting *testimony*/comments from the transcripts, will we be able to use them in court?

Mr. KHATRI.
"Let me outline the most pervasive and significant issues which
I have identified to date: First, prolonged processing times or backlogs;
second, limited availability of case status information to applicants
and beneficiaries; third, immigration benefit fraud, which
contributes to processing delays; fourth, insufficient standardization
in processing among the different USCIS district offices and
regional service centers; and last, inadequate technology and facilities."

"Of the issues identified, clearly the most pervasive problem faced
by USCIS is the prolonged processing times or backlogs."


"what ends up happening is in 60 days
or so, most people clear security checks. Upwards of 90 percent
clear security checks within the 60-day process, the four different
security checks that are conducted."



Ms. LOFGREN. "Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Director,
for your testimony. And I was mentioning to Mr. Smith as we
were walking back from the vote that I don’t want you to take this
personally because we have heard promises about backlogs many,
many, many times, and it’s engendered a certain skepticism on the
parts of the Members of Congress, and it’s not about you. It’s just
how many times can the football be taken away from Charlie
Brown. So here are some questions I have"



Mr. ZULKIE. "Thank you, Ms. Jackson Lee. The first question in
the list for me is the determination of whether or not the resources
the Administration proposes to allocate are adequate. In our opinion
they are not. A recently published study by the Government Accounting
Office on USCIS backlogs made a finding that USCIS
does not really know what it costs them to process an individual
application or petition, and USCIS agreed with that finding.
So now we have a situation where there is a plan laid out there,
but there has been no analysis of how many people hours will it
take to reduce this backlog within the time frame that Director
Aguirre says it can be done. The Director suggests there will be
some interesting and helpful information technology improvements.
We would certainly welcome them. Again, there has been no real
analysis that we have seen as to what that will cost or where the
money will come from."
 
Rajiv,
Can we use the following documents as proof of their "no intention of doing anything" They may think that by conducting these meetings they are acting, well it just proves that they are "not sure" about anything.
3 million backlogs - how much $ did they make? how are they spending it?

May be you need to have an excel sheet [before you go in for a deposition with them] with a 1) question asked column 2) "Answered" column 3) "I think so" column 4) "Not sure" column and show it to the judge

With just no accountability to no one and with no political backing for legal immigrants, this government agency's bureaucracy is at it's worst.
Illegal immigrants stand a better chance with them than legal ones!

kobra33611 said:
Rajiv,

I found the following link, transcripts of congressional hearing (under oath).

http://www.house.gov/judiciary/94287.PDF
http://www.house.gov/judiciary/immigration.htm

I went over the document over the weekend, I thought the following were interesting *testimony*/comments from the transcripts, will we be able to use them in court?

Mr. KHATRI.
"Let me outline the most pervasive and significant issues which
I have identified to date: First, prolonged processing times or backlogs;
second, limited availability of case status information to applicants
and beneficiaries; third, immigration benefit fraud, which
contributes to processing delays; fourth, insufficient standardization
in processing among the different USCIS district offices and
regional service centers; and last, inadequate technology and facilities."

"Of the issues identified, clearly the most pervasive problem faced
by USCIS is the prolonged processing times or backlogs."


"what ends up happening is in 60 days
or so, most people clear security checks. Upwards of 90 percent
clear security checks within the 60-day process, the four different
security checks that are conducted."



Ms. LOFGREN. "Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, Director,
for your testimony. And I was mentioning to Mr. Smith as we
were walking back from the vote that I don’t want you to take this
personally because we have heard promises about backlogs many,
many, many times, and it’s engendered a certain skepticism on the
parts of the Members of Congress, and it’s not about you. It’s just
how many times can the football be taken away from Charlie
Brown. So here are some questions I have"



Mr. ZULKIE. "Thank you, Ms. Jackson Lee. The first question in
the list for me is the determination of whether or not the resources
the Administration proposes to allocate are adequate. In our opinion
they are not. A recently published study by the Government Accounting
Office on USCIS backlogs made a finding that USCIS
does not really know what it costs them to process an individual
application or petition, and USCIS agreed with that finding.
So now we have a situation where there is a plan laid out there,
but there has been no analysis of how many people hours will it
take to reduce this backlog within the time frame that Director
Aguirre says it can be done. The Director suggests there will be
some interesting and helpful information technology improvements.
We would certainly welcome them. Again, there has been no real
analysis that we have seen as to what that will cost or where the
money will come from."
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Rajivji

Thanks for the efforts you are putting into the case.

What is the next step you are planning

Thanks a Ton!
 
Next step

I am speaking with the govt. lawyers to see if we can get depositions for the qos. that remain unanswered.


The govt is supposed to provide a response to our request for production of documents this week. They wanted more time, and said also that they felt that the Court had permitted only depositions, NOT doc requests.


I said I agree to an extension of three days, till this Friday (they wanted 30 days) and that we could ask the court in a phone hearing whether the govt. was required to produce dcuments for our review. I think the court MUST allow us to review their documents. We are trying to get a court hearing.

I will keep you all informed.
 
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operations said:
I am speaking with the govt. lawyers to see if we can get depositions for the qos. that remain unanswered.


The govt is supposed to provide a response to our request for production of documents this week. They wanted more time, and said also that they felt that the Court had permitted only depositions, NOT doc requests.


I said I agree to an extension of three days, till this Friday (they wanted 30 days) and that we could ask the court in a phone hearing whether the govt. was required to produce dcuments for our review. I think the court MUST allow us to review their documents. We are trying to get a court hearing.

I will keep you all informed.
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So did they meet today's deadline??? If any one has any new info pls do post it here. I know not many people are online because of the long weekend.
 
There is no such court

amrcn_attd said:
Rajiv,

As consumers, can we fight our cases in consumer court? If millions of applicants go to consumer court, don't you think the issue will be in the news media.
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No such courts exist.
 
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