This is our chance-action needed

As of 02/14/2005 it was "Received in the Senate".
It is on the list of "Active Legislation & Selected Public Laws, 109th Congress":

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/b_three_sections_with_teasers/active_leg_page.htm

Per notes on this page, "..Bills in ITALICS received attention in the last week or may receive floor action this week..." (it is in italics)

Checking the current floor action list on senate:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_109_1.htm

Our bill is not here yet. Senate is focused on some genetics related bill.
If it doesn't get any action by COB tomorrow, then we should not expect any action until Feb 28th - senate is not meeting from Feb 21-25.
We could use this time and send more faxes to senators.

Also, the bill currently has 140 co-sponsors:

http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HR00418:@@@L&summ2=m&

Thanks,
L.
 
It was received in the senate couple days ago but no one knows if or when it will get on the floor for debate/vote. All we can do is storm the senate with letters/faxes also the WH so it will pressure the senate.......personally I'm suprised to see how little/no action is coming even from very active members in this forum.
 
lusiks said:
As of 02/14/2005 it was "Received in the Senate".
It is on the list of "Active Legislation & Selected Public Laws, 109th Congress":

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/b_three_sections_with_teasers/active_leg_page.htm

Per notes on this page, "..Bills in ITALICS received attention in the last week or may receive floor action this week..." (it is in italics)

Checking the current floor action list on senate:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_109_1.htm

Our bill is not here yet. Senate is focused on some genetics related bill.
If it doesn't get any action by COB tomorrow, then we should not expect any action until Feb 28th - senate is not meeting from Feb 21-25.
We could use this time and send more faxes to senators.

Also, the bill currently has 140 co-sponsors:

http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HR00418:@@@L&summ2=m&

Thanks,
L.
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Not a single democrat among co-sponsors! Does that mean that all democrats will vote against, and if yes does that mean that the bill will not pass Senate?
 
go2bk said:
Minsk:

What makes you believe that no democrat is supporting this bill?

go2bk
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the AILA calls it an anti-immigrant bill. Everything in this bill is against immigrants except eliminating the asylum cap. Many think that they had to include this clause to make it palatable.
 
There were plenty of Dems voting for the bill on the house check the vote:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2005/roll031.xml
Also the Republicans control the senate..........But everybody please send letters faxes that's what we "control"



Minsk said:
Not a single democrat among co-sponsors! Does that mean that all democrats will vote against, and if yes does that mean that the bill will not pass Senate?
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shamshon said:
...... However, many republican senators clearly reject this Bill ........
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Where did you read that? Maybe reject the bill cuz doesn't go far enough...

BTW welcome back....missed you no matter how wrong you are on some things ....are you writing any letters in support of the bill?
 
samoel said:
Where did you read that? Maybe reject the bill cuz doesn't go far enough...

BTW welcome back....missed you no matter how wrong you are on some things ....are you writing any letters in support of the bill?
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They need a simple majority to pass a bill in the Senate (actually a tie would do since Vice President Cheney (who is the nominal head of the Senate) would presumably break any tie in favor of the Republicans).

But the catch is that a long-standing parliamentary rule in the Senate permits a few members to literally talk forever in an attempt to prevent a vote on the floor. This is called a filibuster. And minority members have traditionally use this only on matters they care deeply about. This is how the Democrats prevented the Senate from approving the few conservative judges Bush wants so badly. To stop a filibuster and to allow a vote, you need 60 votes. Republicans have only 55 votes.
 
Gilbert, I know they been successful on the judges but what are the chances of this bill being filibustered?

Gilbert said:
They need a simple majority to pass a bill in the Senate (actually a tie would do since Vice President Cheney (who is the nominal head of the Senate) would presumably break any tie in favor of the Republicans).

But the catch is that a long-standing parliamentary rule in the Senate permits a few members to literally talk forever in an attempt to prevent a vote on the floor. This is called a filibuster. And minority members have traditionally use this only on matters they care deeply about. This is how the Democrats prevented the Senate from approving the few conservative judges Bush wants so badly. To stop a filibuster and to allow a vote, you need 60 votes. Republicans have only 55 votes.
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samoel said:
Gilbert, I know they been successful on the judges but what are the chances of this bill being filibustered?
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Your guess is as good as mine. They filibuster only things they consider important. Who knows.
 
samoel said:
Where did you read that? Maybe reject the bill cuz doesn't go far enough...

BTW welcome back....missed you no matter how wrong you are on some things ....are you writing any letters in support of the bill?
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Thanks samoel. I sent a letter to the bill drafter (Congressman F. James Sessenbrenner, Jr.) and thanked him for considering lifting the asylum cap. However, I explained to him how asylum saved my life and how his bill may prevent many people, who are going through what I went through, from seeking refuge in this country. I supported his effort to protect this country from terrorists but I alerted him to many injustices in the bill such as the incredible obstacles for one to apply to political asylum. Finally, I urged him to reconsider many of its elements but did not get any response yet.
 
Gilbert said:
They need a simple majority to pass a bill in the Senate (actually a tie would do since Vice President Cheney (who is the nominal head of the Senate) would presumably break any tie in favor of the Republicans).

But the catch is that a long-standing parliamentary rule in the Senate permits a few members to literally talk forever in an attempt to prevent a vote on the floor. This is called a filibuster. And minority members have traditionally use this only on matters they care deeply about. This is how the Democrats prevented the Senate from approving the few conservative judges Bush wants so badly. To stop a filibuster and to allow a vote, you need 60 votes. Republicans have only 55 votes.
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Of course the democrats will use a filibuster due to the publicty of this bill. Most human rights organizations agreed that this bill is anti-immigrant and vowed to fight it.
 
Just Do What We Can Do!!!

Lifting the gap is our goal and mutual interest of this forum. What we can do and have to do are spreading our voice out, letting more senators pay attention to this issue and feel the pressure. About the actions they are going to take, nobody can give an affirmative answer, even their parents.

JUST DO WHAT WE CAN DO!!!

Today I faxed to the senators of NE, NV, NH, NJ, NM, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, RI, SC, SD, TN, UT, VT, WA, WV, WI, WY.
 
Asylees Who Act - Power by numbers!!!

Thanks to everybody for doubling the effort! We still need more people faxing letters to as many senators as possible.

ASYLEES, IF YOU WANT TO GET YOUR GREEN CARDS, JOIN IN!!!

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1. freedoms12 (e-mail and fax)
2. samoel (mail and e-mail) Florida + 99 additional senators
3. Minsk (e-mail) Maine
4. lusiks (fax) California, AL, AK, AZ, AR, CT, DE, NE, NV, NM
GA, HI, ID, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, MD, MA, MI, MN, MS, MT, NH, NJ, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, RI, SC, SD, TN, UT, VT, WA, WV, WI, WY
5. ukulele (fax) Texas
6. nofreedom (fax) Missouri
7. asluser (e-mail and fax) New York and Washington, D.C.
8. miaumiau (fax)
9. pequin12 (fax) + 23 additional senators
10. paramvir1 (letter)
11. Gilbert (fax)
12. goandgo (e-mail and fax) California + AL, AK,AZ, AR, CT, DE, GA, HI, ID, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, MD, MA, MI, MN, MS, MT, NE, NV, NH, NJ, NM, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, RI, SC, SD, TN, UT, VT, WA, WV, WI, WY
13. madasylee (fax)
14. asylee25 (e-mail and fax)
15. Punjabi-Munda (letters and faxes) Wisconsin and Washington, D.C.
16. copper1 (e-mail)
17. TortFeasor (fax)
18. dade (e-mail and fax)
19. douls (e-mail and fax) Colorado
20. wantmygcnow (fax)
21. thankful (mail) Florida and New York
22. hampton8844 (fax) Virginia
23. kelvin2088 (e-mail and fax) California
24. one-of-you (e-mail and fax) California
25. karina (fax) New Jersey
26. canterbury2 (letters) Texas and Washington, D.C.
27. Gebre (California Senators)
28. LazertheGreat (fax & letters) Arizona & D.C.
29. go2bk (fax) Washington State
30. usa2002 (fax) CA and Florida
31. kaban (fax) CA
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I sent fresh round of faxes to senators in GA, HI, ID, IL, IN, IA, KS, KY, LA, MD, MA, MI, MN, MS, MT, NH, NJ, NC, ND, OH, OK, OR, PA, RI, SC, SD, TN, UT, VT, WA, WV, WI, WY.

PLEASE START SENDING MORE FAXES!!!
 
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