So I took my oath and ... whoa! that sucks!

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So I took my oath at the US District Ct in Brooklyn last Wednesday and sadly, two people who had appts to take their oath that day were prevented from doing so. They each were issued a traffic ticket since they had the interview. I thought that was harsh. They brought the summons to the courthouse and each had a traffic court date later than the oath date. They were told they had to mail the oath notification letter with the box that asked "have you been cited ... including traffic stop checked yes" with a copy of the disposition letter to the Garden City office. They will then be notified of the new oath date by mail. Man, I can see that last lasting another 4-6 months easily.

One guy had a traffic court date on June 30, 09, dont know why he was ticketed but he did have the standard yellow copy showing the woman.
I thought that was a lil'extreme to say the least.
 
So I took my oath at the US District Ct in Brooklyn last Wednesday and sadly, two people who had appts to take their oath that day were prevented from doing so. They each were issued a traffic ticket since they had the interview. I thought that was harsh. They brought the summons to the courthouse and each had a traffic court date later than the oath date. They were told they had to mail the oath notification letter with the box that asked "have you been cited ... including traffic stop checked yes" with a copy of the disposition letter to the Garden City office. They will then be notified of the new oath date by mail. Man, I can see that last lasting another 4-6 months easily.

One guy had a traffic court date on June 30, 09, dont know why he was ticketed but he did have the standard yellow copy showing the woman.
I thought that was a lil'extreme to say the least.

Do you know if they were for minor traffic tickets or for something more serious as DUI or reckless driving?
 
It is quite important to try to avoid any trouble with the law from interview to oath. Actually from N-400 submittal all the way to the oath. Actually always :)
 
Were they asked about this before the OATH?? I thought these are asked during interview.
Yes, the oath letter that contains your oath date also ask the same questions in the back, however, limited to "from your interview date only". You have to answer them truthfully. When they are collected, any "yes" to any question will set you aside.
It is quite important to try to avoid any trouble with the law from interview to oath. Actually from N-400 submittal all the way to the oath. Actually always
Actually, you're right but it's not always avoidable

Do you know if they were for minor traffic tickets or for something more serious as DUI or reckless driving?
Bob, I could not be sure. I admit trying to be nosy and thought I overheard it was related to illegal turn or something but cant be sure. As far as DUI goes, there is no ticket for DUI's in NYC. You will be arrested which will supercede a summons (same as for driving w/susp license). Reckless driving, well in NYC, is a rare summon that gets issued simply because there's usually so much traffic, its very hard to be reckless :) Well, you can try at the risk of being shot by someone a bit more ... reckless ... :eek:

This, of course, assumes the tickets were issued in NYC but they did look like typical NYPD style
 
Bob, I could not be sure. I admit trying to be nosy and thought I overheard it was related to illegal turn or something but cant be sure.

If it was for something serious I would understand, but for something minor like an illegal turn it doesn't make much sense to hold them back. Another reason why some choose not to disclose minor traffic cases..to avoid the hassles of an inconsistent USCIS process.
 
If it was for something serious I would understand, but for something minor like an illegal turn it doesn't make much sense to hold them back. Another reason why some choose not to disclose minor traffic cases..to avoid the hassles of an inconsistent USCIS process.

I believe they would be OK if they just paid the fine if they had such an option. If you say you will go to court, USCIS always think that can be more
serious than a minor traffic ticket.
 
I believe they would be OK if they just paid the fine if they had such an option. If you say you will go to court, USCIS always think that can be more
serious than a minor traffic ticket.

I don't blame them one bit for pleading not guilty and opting to go to court. The auto insurance prices in NYC are already ludicrous (sometimes higher than the monthly payments on a new car). A 2-point traffic violation jacks up your premiums by around $300-$400 a year for the next 3 years.

As far as being taken out of oath is concerned, this goes to show you how inconsistent the USCIS practices are, even within the same DO. My oath was also at the US District Court in Brooklyn and we were specifically directed by the IO in charge not to disclose traffic tickets. Go figure.
 
It is quite important to try to avoid any trouble with the law from interview to oath. Actually from N-400 submittal all the way to the oath. Actually always :)
Suppose they are choosing to go to court because they're innocent. What could they have done to avoid it? Park the car at home from the interview until the oath, and do nothing but walk and take the bus?
 
Suppose they are choosing to go to court because they're innocent. What could they have done to avoid it? Park the car at home from the interview until the oath, and do nothing but walk and take the bus?

If you just want to hell with it, don't discloset traffic tickets.
 
If you just want to hell with it, don't discloset traffic tickets.
The Oath Letter asked specifically about traffic tickets. It's Have you been cited, detained ... including traffic stops? I mean, one can say "no" but then that would be dishonesty in the process, to say the least
 
I can see that happening when there is a summons to a court house and it has not yet happend. I'm sure if it was a standard ticket that was paid there wouldn't be any issue, but since these were not yet closed cases (court has not happend) they were denied the Oath...
 
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