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Ethiopia excluded - this is good news.
Eliminating cutoff for Ethiopia means to me the limit for this country has been passed. So, it is between 24700 and 30000 (in DV-13 it was 32912), and now it is lower than in DV-14.
Also, cutoffs for Africa speeded up - because Ethiopian numbers no longer add up to African numbers.
 
Eliminating cutoff for Ethiopia means to me the limit for this country has been passed. So, it is between 24700 and 30000 (in DV-13 it was 32912), and now it is lower than in DV-14.
Also, cutoffs for Africa speeded up - because Ethiopian numbers no longer add up to African numbers.

If so AF will speed next month for how much? Plus minus?
 
Raevsky, we were just chatting with a guy on the Ethiopian thread. He is chargeable to Ethiopia and has a CN of 50XXX. Given that last year they were cut at about 32k, we could assume they are limited around 30/35k this year - right? so then his number sounds like an outlier - right?
Yes. BTW, as long as you are in contact with him, could you figure out what country he mentioned on DV initial entry as the country of residence? What I suspect is the source of those outliers are those who live outside of country of chargeability. I know several Uzbekistani cases like that, whose numbers are above general Uz limit, and they all live in Russia (but chargeable to Uz)

Oh - and while I'm thinking of it, the DV lottery wiki still uses the term circumcised for the special countries. Since that word has one meaning (and it is not to do with the DV lottery!), it might be good to change that next time you are editing. "Restricted" would be better
OK.
 
If so AF will speed next month for how much? Plus minus?
If Egypt is also close to reaching it's limit (it was 22899 in DV-13), I would expect 9K-10K increase for Africa. Nigeria is far from reaching the limit, but it is moving slowly anyway
 
Yes. BTW, as long as you are in contact with him, could you figure out what country he mentioned on DV initial entry as the country of residence? What I suspect is the source of those outliers are those who live outside of country of chargeability. I know several Uzbekistani cases like that, whose numbers are above general Uz limit, and they all live in Russia (but chargeable to Uz)

OK.

I was part of the chat ! Hes born in ethiopia and he lives there !
 
If Egypt is also close to reaching it's limit (it was 22899 in DV-13), I would expect 9K-10K increase for Africa. Nigeria is far from reaching the limit, but it is moving slowly anyway

So if egypt, ethiopia and nigeria hit the limit, will it be possible to see 20k jumps?
 
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I was part of the chat ! Hes born in ethiopia and he lives there !
Was he still living there at the moment when he sent initial entry? People go to study to other countries or work temporarily in other countries (and mention their country of temporary residence on DV entry), and then return back to home country.
 
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So if both ethiopia and nigeria hit the limit, will it be possible to see 20k jumps?
3 special African countries together are limited by per country quota (up to 3850 per country), that is 11550. That is about 55% of the total number of African visas. So, African visas from other African countries are still 45% of all African visas. So, total speed up could be 100/45 = 2.2 times. That is why even if all 3 special African countries are reached, 20K per month increase is hardly possible.
We actually have Ghana too, even though Ghana does not have a special cutoff, but it has a limit.
If, however, we consider Asia after both Nepal and Iran are reached, the speed increase should be huge, because Irani + Nepali visas could constitute about 80% of Asian visas, so other countries constitute only about 20% of Asian visas (5 times speed up)
 
Was he still living there at the moment when he sent initial entry? People go to study to other countries or work temporarily in other countries (and mention their country of temporary residence on DV entry), and then return back to home country.

I will post as soon as he asnwers back.
 
3 special African countries together are limited by per country quota (up to 3850 per country), that is 11550. That is about 55% of the total number of African visas. So, African visas from other African countries are still 45% of all African visas. So, total speed up could be 100/45 = 2.2 times. That is why even if all 3 special African countries are reached, 20K per month increase is hardly possible.
We actually have Ghana too, even though Ghana does not have a special cutoff, but it has a limit.
If, however, we consider Asia after both Nepal and Iran are reached, the speed increase should be huge, because Irani + Nepali visas could constitute about 80% of Asian visas, so other countries constitute only about 20% of Asian visas (5 times speed up)

If this senario happens(hitting the limit) it will be only at the latest stage of the VB ! Lets say the two months?
 
Raevskii and Simon you forget. Ethiopia has more than 800 winners. It has already been ruled out and she will not return. This means that it has been sent enough forms. Less than in DV13.

I looked Statistics in Asia in DV2002
Jul - 9850
Aug - 16700
Sep - current
Asia therefore too early to throw the white flag.
 
If this senario happens(hitting the limit) it will be only at the latest stage of the VB ! Lets say the two months?
As far as I understand, Ethiopia hit the limit already. But Ethiopia, Ghana and Egypt also hit the limit rather early in DV-13. Same as Ukraine.
At the same time Uzbekistan hit the limit at the very end of the year, as well as Nigeria. I believe that would be the case this year as well, the same for Iran and Nepal.
 
I do not think it is absolutely safe. I think numbers above 33K might be not safe.
This is nonsense 10,000 winners can not be located in the range of 33000 to 60000.
 
As far as I understand, Ethiopia hit the limit already. But Ethiopia, Ghana and Egypt also hit the limit rather early in DV-13. Same as Ukraine.
At the same time Uzbekistan hit the limit at the very end of the year, as well as Nigeria. I believe that would be the case this year as well, the same for Iran and Nepal.

Just to make it clear ! In your opinion ethiopia has hit the limt and there is no way it will come back with special cutoff?
Right?
 
Raevskii and Simon you forget. Ethiopia has more than 800 winners. It has already been ruled out and she will not return. This means that it has been sent enough forms. Less than in DV13.
In 2013 there were 2389 visas. They already realized they will not 3500 in DV-14.
 
Just to make it clear ! In your opinion ethiopia has hit the limt and there is no way it will come back with special cutoff?
Right?
I could not completely rule out this possibility. However I would consider it extremely unlikely. If on somewhat reason everyone from Ethiopia sends documents to KCC, special cutoff could be reinstated, or cutoff could even decrease (actually, if limit has been reached, it could make sense to decrease cutoff, but not to introduce a special cutoff again if it increases). Moreover, in case of a major war starting in Ethiopia or in case of an extreme nature catastrophe, like earthquake that destroys a lot of houses, that could happen. Other than that, I cannot imagine how a lot of winners from Ethiopia who have not submitted their forms yet, would send them now.
 
I could not completely rule out this possibility. However I would consider it extremely unlikely. If on somewhat reason everyone from Ethiopia sends documents to KCC, special cutoff could be reinstated, or cutoff could even decrease (actually, if limit has been reached, it could make sense to decrease cutoff, but not to introduce a special cutoff again if it increases). Moreover, in case of a major war starting in Ethiopia or in case of an extreme nature catastrophe, like earthquake that destroys a lot of houses, that could happen. Other than that, I cannot imagine how a lot of winners from Ethiopia who have not submitted their forms yet, would send them now.

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One good comment of the day.:) Annoyed it is a lottery.:mad:
recently watched the biathlon. Russian left without a medal. Just one mistake ruined everything.:(
I liked the ceremony.
 
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