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Sloner axiom or Britsimon theory.... which due you think will be right at last.....

Rayme

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guys already VB for 7 month published and just 5 months left.. so many high cases lossing hopes day by day... two theory very clear till now about 140k slectee. one says its due to error by KCC assuming 2012 result while doing draw for 2014 and other says new system in place and all wil get chance... till now simon theory is going upto mark even we all want sloner to be right.... what is all ur view its just an error of assumption by KCc as simon says or u think its normal all will get chance sloner theory
 
Yeahhhh obviously simon !
But funny enough the numbers are running like simon predicted but the visa issuing is not following. very low up to now !
 
It is easy to predict. I predicted in October number in June. I do not remember it forecast in October. I think he did not predict.

Rayme, what do you want by that say?
 
i want you to say my heart says to believe you and say i have chance and my mind says britsimon is right and my chances are slim...
It is easy to predict. I predicted in October number in June. I do not remember it forecast in October. I think he did not predict.

Rayme, what do you want by that say?
 
i want you to say my heart says to believe you and say i have chance and my mind says britsimon is right and my chances are slim...
clear. You call in the KCC? If not, then ask what to believe heart or mind.:)
 
I wish Sloner's theory will come true, but as you say Rayme, my head says no.

The fundamental "test" of Sloners theory is AF region. Sloner believes that the overall success rate (the ratio of selectees to final visas issued) from 2012 will be repeated this year. He cites software and improved anti fraud measure as the reasoning. Based on that he believes that AF will only get 17 to 19k visas and that as a consequence, every other region will benefit from that AF reduction (but mostly Europe). By the way, Sloner believes that the 17-19k is what the final demand will be from the 62k selectees - in other words AF region, and of course other regions, will get very close to their highest case numbers.

I on the other hand agree that AF region will have a smaller share this year, but only slightly (22 - 24k) and that will come from something less than the full supply of cases in AF region - meaning some high case numbers will be disappointed. I also think that the 140k selectee number is a mistake and that around 15 - 20% of those selectees will miss out.

Until now it isn't really possible to say categorically which theory is correct - we will only know in July/August and we will only have the official numbers a few months after DV2014 has finished. In May however we will see the selectee count - and that would be an important clue of what has happened because if Sloners' theory is correct they will select a large amount of selectees again (announcing 125k or perhaps even the 140k). I believe they will reduce that number to around 105K again (because the 2013 results will tell them that is enough).

Like I said - I would MUCH rather believe Sloners' theory - I just can't.
 
my mind trusts you and heart says sloner but at end i am sure u are right man... damm right and one thing i think same as u is if sloner is right than that will be proved during 2015 dv result on may
I wish Sloner's theory will come true, but as you say Rayme, my head says no.

The fundamental "test" of Sloners theory is AF region. Sloner believes that the overall success rate (the ratio of selectees to final visas issued) from 2012 will be repeated this year. He cites software and improved anti fraud measure as the reasoning. Based on that he believes that AF will only get 17 to 19k visas and that as a consequence, every other region will benefit from that AF reduction (but mostly Europe). By the way, Sloner believes that the 17-19k is what the final demand will be from the 62k selectees - in other words AF region, and of course other regions, will get very close to their highest case numbers.

I on the other hand agree that AF region will have a smaller share this year, but only slightly (22 - 24k) and that will come from something less than the full supply of cases in AF region - meaning some high case numbers will be disappointed. I also think that the 140k selectee number is a mistake and that around 15 - 20% of those selectees will miss out.

Until now it isn't really possible to say categorically which theory is correct - we will only know in July/August and we will only have the official numbers a few months after DV2014 has finished. In May however we will see the selectee count - and that would be an important clue of what has happened because if Sloners' theory is correct they will select a large amount of selectees again (announcing 125k or perhaps even the 140k). I believe they will reduce that number to around 105K again (because the 2013 results will tell them that is enough).

Like I said - I would MUCH rather believe Sloners' theory - I just can't.
 
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I wish Sloner's theory will come true, but as you say Rayme, my head says no.

I on the other hand agree that AF region will have a smaller share this year, but only slightly (22 - 24k) and that will come from something less than the full supply of cases in AF region - meaning some high case numbers will be disappointed. I also think that the 140k selectee number is a mistake and that around 15 - 20% of those selectees will miss out.

Simon,

what's your arguments about AF getting smaller share?
 
Simon,

what's your arguments about AF getting smaller share?

Certainly the slow rate of the vb for AF and the faster one for EU!


Actually it is based on the selectee ratio and increase. If you check the 2013 selectees versus the 2014 selectees AF got a 19% increase in selectees and other regions all had much larger percentage increases. EU got 40% more, AS 45% more, SA and OC around 100% increases. Globally there was around 30% increase so I am basing my assumption on the relative decrease that AF region have had in the overall split of selectees between the regions.
 
What about the ravesky?

In my opinion, Raevsky has a much better analysis of the lottery than myself or Sloner. I have injected a bit more hope/optimism into my predictions but Raevskys' numbers are the ones I take most seriously. I am just hopeful that he has not taken in to account a couple of things I am relying on in his earlier predictions and I was pleased when he increased his ranges slightly due to the NACARA hope and a couple of other factors. However, his numbers remain lower than mine.
 
In my opinion, Raevsky has a much better analysis of the lottery than myself or Sloner. I have injected a bit more hope/optimism into my predictions but Raevskys' numbers are the ones I take most seriously. I am just hopeful that he has not taken in to account a couple of things I am relying on in his earlier predictions and I was pleased when he increased his ranges slightly due to the NACARA hope and a couple of other factors. However, his numbers remain lower than mine.
You are deeply mistaken. I quoted from the past mistakes. I'm upset after these words. You are blind.
Well, it's your problem. I'm not going to convince you. It's useless.
 
You are deeply mistaken. I quoted from the past mistakes. I'm upset after these words. You are blind.
Well, it's your problem. I'm not going to convince you. It's useless.

I don't mean to upset you Sloner. It is clear that you have taken time to analyze what is going on and you have put a lot of effort into that and I respect your effort. However, I believe you are badly mistaken about the likely success rate in AF region (based on 2012) and for that reason alone I have to relegate you to the 2nd division (along with myself since I haven't put the effort in that you and Raevsky have).
 
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