Senate and House Appropriations Committee Press Release on Real ID

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amtbooks said:
Though both releases do not address the asylee 10,000 cap removal specifically, the Senate Release says, "The bill includes much of the Real ID Act of 2005, which was included in the House-passed version of the bill." So I guessed the cap removal course should be intact.


Senate Press Release:
http://appropriations.senate.gov/hearmarkups/05-03-0505SuppConference.htm

House Press Release
http://appropriations.house.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressReleases.Detail&PressRelease_id=468
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wantmygcnow said:
IT was an ammendement..it should be noted as other ammendments...they forgot about us again?
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Withhold judgment until we see the actual conference report. It should not be too much longer.
 
It is not an amendment, it is the final version of the bill which will be sent back to the congress to vote. I guess we will know tomorrow when the House will vote on the bill.

wantmygcnow said:
IT was an ammendement..it should be noted as other ammendments...they forgot about us again?
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amtbooks said:
It is not an amendment, it is the final version of the bill which will be sent back to the congress to vote. I guess we will know tomorrow when the House will vote on the bill.
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It is there.
 
Let's cross our fingers...If ther is no way to stop the Congess passing such a wired bill, let's at least hope that the amandment will be in there. However we should realize that even if they remove the cap a lot of us will still have to wait for a long time. For example I just send my asylum based I-485 yesterday and I don't expect to get my GC soon even if they pass it the next week.
 
Minsk said:
Let's cross our fingers...If ther is no way to stop the Congess passing such a wired bill, let's at least hope that the amandment will be in there. However we should realize that even if they remove the cap a lot of us will still have to wait for a long time. For example I just send my asylum based I-485 yesterday and I don't expect to get my GC soon even if they pass it the next week.
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The removal of the cap may have immediate effect for asylees with ND earlier than 2001. Assuming the cap is not removed, you waiting period (with ND 2005) would not be less than 15 to 20 years. If the cap is removed, your waiting period would not be more than 4 to 5 years. It seems like you are saying 4 to 5 years is still a long time to wait????????? I don't think any fellow asylees in this forum would sympathize with you.
 
bornTwice said:
The removal of the cap may have immediate effect for asylees with ND earlier than 2001. Assuming the cap is not removed, you waiting period (with ND 2005) would not be less than 15 to 20 years. If the cap is removed, your waiting period would not be more than 4 to 5 years. It seems like you are saying 4 to 5 years is still a long time to wait????????? I don't think any fellow asylees in this forum would sympathize with you.
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4-5 years is certainly not 15-20 years, but where did u get this time frame? Do u know for sure how they gonna manage the backlog?
 
Even if the remove the cap..USCIS can always make the excuse that they are busy with other cases...At first they had an excuse of the cap.. We will still be helpless. IF the cap is removed..by the time they wake up and utilize their resources..it will time waisted..

The fact that their processing date on their website still says 12/99 for asylees is a joke. I mean as soon as the fiscal year had turned, they should've updated it with the real date(10/00)...At least be honest with us..

Imagine cap is lifted and in 1 year they still write that they are processing 05/00 cases for example...What could you do? you call the service center they will just respond by saying well they are still processing that timeframe.

Its like the RTD..at first i used to get it in 1 month..then 2 months..then 3 months...now its 6 months..maybe in a few months it will be a year..

And born2wice, even without the cap elimination..we should have seen cases adjusted(with the lawsuit) in the pre-2001 time-frame..

So if you had said that cap elimination may have immediate effect on anyone with pre-2003 case..would be more joyful....pre-2001 cases to be processed was BY LAW..which they didnt do..

So removing the cap may save someone who filed in 2005 maybe 4-5 years..but nothing like 10 years as we all think....

Unless USCIS starts to process the cases faster..we wont see any immediate results..

Logic would have that they would process it same as refugees/employment based cases(01/03)..but those folks have lawyers etc backing them..i mean EVERY lawyer talks about H1 adjustments and follows it..asylee adjustments is what less than a million?...While H1 others is probably double that..
 
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No cap removal on that bill!!!!

I check different versions of that bill. the final version doesnot have any word talk about remove cap.
Prepare for the dispointed early. :(
I just dream about it. You know, the most important thing here is the REAL ID, the house and the congress want contral driver liscence as a real id, remove cap is NOT important to them.
 
Chris Jones said:
I check different versions of that bill. the final version doesnot have any word talk about remove cap.
Prepare for the dispointed early. :(
I just dream about it. You know, the most important thing here is the REAL ID, the house and the congress want contral driver liscence as a real id, remove cap is NOT important to them.
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Please provide a link for the versions you were talking about.
 
chris jones...hampton who has senate contacts has said its there. If its not there in the final bill.....me and you can go together and hunt for hampton and beat him up in a hampton inn..in hampton suites..and dump in the hampton swimmingpool and drive our cars from the hamptoninn parking lot..kapish?
 
The final version of the bill is not out yet, please do not use old information to fool youself and us.

Chris Jones said:
I check different versions of that bill. the final version doesnot have any word talk about remove cap.
Prepare for the dispointed early. :(
I just dream about it. You know, the most important thing here is the REAL ID, the house and the congress want contral driver liscence as a real id, remove cap is NOT important to them.
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amtbooks said:
The lastest version here is last month, the one come out of conference committe is yesterday - May 3rd which is not available yet.

It should be online tomorrow when the House schedule to vote on it.

I am very optimistic
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I called Mr. Brownback's office and was put through to a legislative aide who said that "I believed cap section is in."
 
Here is the last word talk about cap. but this is only list the Passed House, amended version. I can not find the same word in the Reported to Senate, amended (4/6/2005) version.
So guess, where is those word?
The only reason I can think about is they think REAL ID is important, removal cap is not, at least to them.

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Division B: REAL ID Act of 2005 - REAL ID Act of 2005 - Title I: Amendments to Federal Laws to Protect Against Terrorist Entry - (Sec. 101) Amends Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) provisions concerning asylum to: (1) authorize the Secretary of Homeland Security, in addition to the Attorney General, to grant asylum (retroactive to March 1, 2003); (2) require asylum applicants to prove that race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion was or will be (if removed) the central reason for their persecution; and (3) provide that an applicant's testimony may be sufficient to sustain this burden of proof only if the trier of fact determines that it is credible, persuasive, and fact-specific. Requires corroborating evidence where requested by the trier of fact unless the applicant does not have the evidence and cannot reasonably obtain it without departing the United States. States that the inability to obtain corroborating evidence does not excuse the applicant from meeting his or her burden of proof.

Lists factors relevant to credibility determinations in asylum cases, including (but not limited to) the: (1) demeanor, candor, or responsiveness of the applicant or witness; (2) inherent plausibility of the applicant's or witness' account; (3) consistency between the applicant's or witness' written and oral statements; (4) internal consistency of each such statement; (5) consistency of such statements with other evidence of record (including the Department of State's reports on country conditions); and (6) any inaccuracies or falsehoods in such statements regardless of whether they go to the heart of the applicant's claim. States that there is no presumption of credibility.

Makes this Act's provisions regarding proof requirements and credibility determinations in asylum proceedings applicable to other requests from relief for removal.

Limits judicial review of determinations regarding the availability of corroborating evidence.

Removes the numerical limit on the number of aliens granted asylum who may become lawful permanent residents in any fiscal year (currently set at 10,000).
Repeals provisions of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 (IRTPA) requiring a study and report on terrorists in the asylum system.
 
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