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Selective Service
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Jackolantern
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Yes, at your age you have to register if you are a permanent resident or US citizen, even if you are outside the US.
Note that if you are a permanent resident, you risk losing your green card by staying outside the US for so long. If you are a permanent resident, I hope you applied for a reentry permit.
EDIT: From another thread I see you recently became a US citizen through your mother's naturalization, so forget about the reentry permit. However, you still have to register for Selective Service.
Note that if you are a permanent resident, you risk losing your green card by staying outside the US for so long. If you are a permanent resident, I hope you applied for a reentry permit.
EDIT: From another thread I see you recently became a US citizen through your mother's naturalization, so forget about the reentry permit. However, you still have to register for Selective Service.
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I went to their website today. It says I could apply when I'm outside the US.
Should I do that? Since it sounds more convenient..
Thing is, I will be going out soon and I don't want to cause any confusion.
If I apply here, it will be on their records that I am inside the US which won't be true in couple or so weeks from now.
Should I do that? Since it sounds more convenient..
Thing is, I will be going out soon and I don't want to cause any confusion.
If I apply here, it will be on their records that I am inside the US which won't be true in couple or so weeks from now.
You have to have all original documents that you send with the passport application, because if the passport is lost in the future, you will be able to re-apply. If they keep your GC and you lose the passport, then you are screwed since you don't have the Certificate of Citizenship (never filed N-600).P.S. I applied for my US passport, gave them my mom's certificate.
I have received my passport and all supporting documents including my green card.
I thought they were going to keep my GC?
TheRealCanadian
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I went to their website today. It says I could apply when I'm outside the US. Should I do that? Since it sounds more convenient..
How could anything be more convenient than this: https://www.sss.gov/RegVer/wfRegistration.aspx
My point was if I should do it here when I'm in the US or do it when I'm already outside the US(for education and will be out for 4 years).How could anything be more convenient than this: https://www.sss.gov/RegVer/wfRegistration.aspx
I tried to fill that application up but they block me for some reason saying "Your IP is within the states of the US."
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You have to have all original documents that you send with the passport application, because if the passport is lost in the future, you will be able to re-apply. If they keep your GC and you lose the passport, then you are screwed since you don't have the Certificate of Citizenship (never filed N-600).
I see. Thanks for the clarification!
Sorry for posting 2 replies. I don't know how to put two quotes in 1 post.
Al Southner
Registered Users (C)
My point was if I should do it here when I'm in the US or do it when I'm already outside the US(for education and will be out for 4 years).
I tried to fill that application up but they block me for some reason saying "Your IP is within the states of the US."
I am trying to figure out why do you want to register when you are outside the US? You can just register on the site for people within the US, because I can assure you, trying to skip this step is going to come back and really cause trouble for you. Just register on the site and stop this back and forth, because you don't have any complex situation in your life.
Because I'll be outside the US for 4-5 years 2 weeks from now..
What if a draft will happen during that time and they pick my name and it shows on my application that I am in the US?
What the hell? The last draft was in the Vietnam war, so what nakes you think they will draft now? In 1973, the draft ended and the U.S. converted to an All-Volunteer military. The registration requirement was suspended in April 1975. It was resumed again in 1980 by President Carter in response to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. Registration continues today as a hedge against underestimating the number of servicemen needed in a future crisis.
Before the lottery was implemented in the latter part of the Vietnam conflict, Local Boards called men classified 1-A, 18 1/2 through 25 years old, oldest first. This resulted in uncertainty for the potential draftees during the entire time they were within the draft-eligible age group. A draft held today would use a lottery system under which a man would spend only one year in first priority for the draft - either the calendar year he turned 20 or the year his deferment ended. Each year after that, he would be placed in a succeedingly lower priority group and his liability for the draft would lessen accordingly. In this way, he would be spared the uncertainty of waiting until his 26th birthday to be certain he would not be drafted.
So I guess that is where the age 26 SSS limit comes in because attaining that age means you will not be drafted. Stop wasting your own time, just register and leave it at that.
In addition, under the first amendment protection of the right to religion, it is noted that some religions see war as immoral and thus CAN be used as a grounds not to get drafted. In light of this, the courts also went further by saying that people cannot be drafted even if they do not believe in a Supreme Being or belong to any religious tradition, so long as their "conscience, spurrred by deeply held moral, ethical, or religious beliefs, would give them no rest or peace if they allowed themselves to become part of an instrument of war."
Al Southner
Registered Users (C)
Because I'll be outside the US for 4-5 years 2 weeks from now..
What if a draft will happen during that time and they pick my name and it shows on my application that I am in the US?
You have been smoking too much strawberry leaves.... If there is a draft, which there won't be, US military will call you whenever you are, and you better come back to serve your country. Being in the US or outside the US is a mute point. Failure to register for selective service has far reaching consequences, you can take that to the bank. I wonder how you want to become a citizen in the home of the brave, but are afraid of combat....wow.... I am sure Canada still accept draft dodgers...lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is what will happen to you if you fail to register. Penalties for Failure to Register for the SS
Men who do not register could be prosecuted and, if convicted, fined up to $250,000 and/or serve up to five years in prison. In addition, men who fail to register with Selective Service before turning age 26, even if not prosecuted, will become ineligible for:
Student Financial Aid - including Pell Grants, College Work Study, Guaranteed Student/Plus Loans, and National Direct Student Loans.
U.S. Citizenship - if the man first arrived in the U.S. before his 26th birthday.
Federal Job Training - The Job Training Partnership Act (JTPA) offers programs that can train young men for jobs in auto mechanics and other skills. This program is only open to those men who register with Selective Service.
Federal Jobs - men born after December 31, 1959 must be registered to be eligible for jobs in the Executive Branch of the Federal government and the U.S. Postal Service.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/gi/o.htm...=0&bts=0&zu=http://www.sss.gov/fsstateleg.htm
Moreover, you might NOT be able to obtain a driver's license should you skip SS registration.