San Francisco Regional DOL Tracker

[JustWatching]

Question from a New Yorker

As all of us have, we (the NY forum) have been discussing the new memo. All of us from a biased point of view. We all read it in a way the best suits our situation. It's actually a bit funny.

I do have a question for you guys. I know San Francisco Regional is processing March 2003 cases. Do you guys know what the priority date for those cases are. At least a range since obviously it varies depending what state it came from?

By the way, the definition of Priority Date is the date you submitted at State level.

Also, do you know what the backlog is? Volume-wise I mean at the San Francisco Regional office.

Now, one more thing for discussion - Everybody keeps thinking that because their cases are getting transferred to the BEC first that they will get processed first. One thing is that cases get transferred and another when they are processed.

I have to think (because that is what I would like to believe) that cases will be processed based on priority date (As defined above) regardless of when they arrive at the BECs.

Also, there are separate teams for Regular and RIR so they will continue to be on separate timelines.

Thanks guys for your input.

 

[jayjo7]

The AVM is not working(Ring goes on....), is there any other number where we can and inform them to take a look

 

[tgunukula]

Letters

I believe the BEC will issue the letters first. Does this letter comes to Employee or Lawyer or both. My company chaged the lawyer recently. Immegration specialist in the comany also got changed. Can somebody answer please. My concern is if the letter got lost in the middle, I am screwed up.

 

[waitinginlimbo1]

After the retest response is filed, does anyone know the average time that one can expect to get a result within?.Also what is the success rate of retests?.Is it good??

 

[m_chundi]

Can someone tell me what letters are we talking about? I have been hearing about these letters and responses since the talk of the BEC began.

Letters --> Whether they still want to pursue the case.
Responses --> They process only if the employer wishes to.
--murali

 

[pleaseGOD]

Oldest cases meaning backlog ones right? or all the cases will be transfered ? does this transfer of cases will speed up processing time or delay more?

Your answer is right there in your Question.

"all the oldest cases from SF DOL office were Xferred to BEC. For the rest of October, they will Xfer olders cases from other regions and states to the BEC"

They are starting with SF DOL & then other DOL (regions) will folllow... States (SWA/SESA) will come after that. That is why in SWA there is business as usual right now.

 

[jayjo7]

The AVM is not working(Ring goes on....), is there any other number where we can and inform them to take a look

 

[tonysharma]

gp111 and others,

Do you think S.F. DOL is still processing the cases now and process 60 or 70 cases per day? If this is the case, I guess they should reach the cases on March 12 or 13? As a matter of fact, they're still processing the cases received on March 10 very slowly. My case is March 13, 2003. Do you think my case will be transferred to BEC or stay in S.F. DOL for process? If transferring all the cases after March 10 to BEC, the cases in March, 2003 will be postponed for several months (send letter, respond, start to work on...)

My case is March 13, 2003. Do you think my case will be transferred to BEC or stay in S.F. DOL for process?
WHY???
sfo dol is still processing cases the way they were doing for last some yrs.......so dont worry

 

[worker_bee]

You are right - we all tend to view/interpret the memo in a way that sounds favourable to us

Having said that, CA/SF SWA/DOL is one of the most backlogged in the country. A DOL RD date of Mar 2003 (currently being processed) transaltes to a SWA PD of Jan-Mar 2002 since it takes an avg 11-13 months for a case to be transmitted from PD to transmittal to DOL. That will make it one of the oldest cases in the national queue when it shows up at BEC.

Are you guys aware of any other region that is more backlogged than this?

As all of us have, we (the NY forum) have been discussing the new memo. All of us from a biased point of view. We all read it in a way the best suits our situation. It's actually a bit funny.

I do have a question for you guys. I know San Francisco Regional is processing March 2003 cases. Do you guys know what the priority date for those cases are. At least a range since obviously it varies depending what state it came from?

By the way, the definition of Priority Date is the date you submitted at State level.

Also, do you know what the backlog is? Volume-wise I mean at the San Francisco Regional office.

Now, one more thing for discussion - Everybody keeps thinking that because their cases are getting transferred to the BEC first that they will get processed first. One thing is that cases get transferred and another when they are processed.

I have to think (because that is what I would like to believe) that cases will be processed based on priority date (As defined above) regardless of when they arrive at the BECs.

Also, there are separate teams for Regular and RIR so they will continue to be on separate timelines.

Thanks guys for your input.

 

[gp111]

You are right - we all tend to view/interpret the memo in a way that sounds favourable to us

Having said that, CA/SF SWA/DOL is one of the most backlogged in the country. A DOL RD date of Mar 2003 (currently being processed) transaltes to a SWA PD of Jan-Mar 2002 since it takes an avg 11-13 months for a case to be transmitted from PD to transmittal to DOL. That will make it one of the oldest cases in the national queue when it shows up at BEC.

Are you guys aware of any other region that is more backlogged than this?

NY, DC, Indiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma etc are more backlogged then Califronia Cases if you consider PD instead of RD.

 

[GC_GC_GC]

Maine VS California

Gurus:
I work for a company A in Bay Area where my Labor application has been forwarded to DOL on 13th October, 2003. Right now, I have an offer from a Company B located in South Portland, Maine. From a view point of obtaining Green Card in shorter amount of time, please advice if I should go ahead and accept the offer from Compay B (in Maine).
Thanks.

 

[HopeAlive]

You are right - we all tend to view/interpret the memo in a way that sounds favourable to us

Having said that, CA/SF SWA/DOL is one of the most backlogged in the country. A DOL RD date of Mar 2003 (currently being processed) transaltes to a SWA PD of Jan-Mar 2002 since it takes an avg 11-13 months for a case to be transmitted from PD to transmittal to DOL. That will make it one of the oldest cases in the national queue when it shows up at BEC.

Are you guys aware of any other region that is more backlogged than this?

If you check the DOL website for processing times, http://workforcesecurity.doleta.gov/foreign/times.asp, you will find that in case of regional centers, only Dallas is behind SF DOL. They are still processing Jan 2003 cases. I am assuming there will be a distinction between cases backlogged in SWA and DOL.

 

[HopeAlive]

NY, DC, Indiana, Arkansas, Oklahoma etc are more backlogged then Califronia Cases if you consider PD instead of RD.

But, that's state level application you are talking about. Let's hope they will have separate queues for the two.

In the mean time, the lawyers (at least ours) are just like us; they don't have much clue of what's going on. If anyone else gets more information from their lawyers, can you update us all?

 

[GC_GC_GC]

Please reply

Gurus:
I work for a company A in Bay Area where my Labor application has been forwarded to DOL on 13th October, 2003. Right now, I have an offer from a Company B located in South Portland, Maine. From a view point of obtaining Green Card in shorter amount of time, please advice if I should go ahead and accept the offer from Compay B (in Maine).
Thanks.

Guys:
Please give me an advice since I need to give me decision to Company B ASAP.
Thanks,
GC_GC-GC

 

[HopeAlive]

Guys:
Please give me an advice since I need to give me decision to Company B ASAP.
Thanks,
GC_GC-GC

It is very difficult to say how much you will gain from switching the company.

Currently at the state level, for Maine, Boston SWA is processing cases received in August 2004. That's a backlog of 2 months. At the Federal level, Boston DOL FLC is processing cases received in June 2004. That is a backlog of 4 months. So, assuming - and this is a wild assumption - that the backlogs will continue to be like this, if company B submits your application by December 2004, for Boston DOL to process your application, it will take another 8 months. Throw in this new uncertainty with BECs, etc. and you cannot really say for sure.

I would say what I have heard gp111 has been telling most people on this forum about switching companies: if it is benefitial to you careerwise, or in any other way, you should consider switching. I would not recommend switching companies for GC only.

I am hoping someone else would comment too. E.g. gp111.

 

[gp111]

But, that's state level application you are talking about. Let's hope they will have separate queues for the two.

In the mean time, the lawyers (at least ours) are just like us; they don't have much clue of what's going on. If anyone else gets more information from their lawyers, can you update us all?

The question was when they start processing Regional Case (National Queue FIFO) what would they look ?? RD or PD ??...

for example NY region is processing cases of May 2004 (RD) but actually those case will have PD of 2000 / 2001 as compare to CA dol cases RD March 2003 Cases with PD of March 2002... which one do you consider first Case ??

 

[Zany_Brainy]

I would say..

Logically PD of 2000 will be the first case, as far as National FIFO goes..

So we may have to wait a little longer.... But at the rate of 7cases*120officers*2BEC = 1680 cases a day... We should not have to wait very long.

Can we find how many cases are there in NY with PD before Mar 2002 when CA will start getting processed ?

The question was when they start processing Regional Case (National Queue FIFO) what would they look ?? RD or PD ??...

for example NY region is processing cases of May 2004 (RD) but actually those case will have PD of 2000 / 2001 as compare to CA dol cases RD March 2003 Cases with PD of March 2002... which one do you consider first Case ??

 

[GC_GC_GC]

It is very difficult to say how much you will gain from switching the company.

Currently at the state level, for Maine, Boston SWA is processing cases received in August 2004. That's a backlog of 2 months. At the Federal level, Boston DOL FLC is processing cases received in June 2004. That is a backlog of 4 months. So, assuming - and this is a wild assumption - that the backlogs will continue to be like this, if company B submits your application by December 2004, for Boston DOL to process your application, it will take another 8 months. Throw in this new uncertainty with BECs, etc. and you cannot really say for sure.

I would say what I have heard gp111 has been telling most people on this forum about switching companies: if it is benefitial to you careerwise, or in any other way, you should consider switching. I would not recommend switching companies for GC only.

I am hoping someone else would comment too. E.g. gp111.

Thank you for your kind advice. Career is gonna remain unchanged with company A or company B. However, I realized that State and DOL in Maine together take around 3 months (since both the depts are processing the month of Sep). Would these processing times be impacted because of new INS rules.
GP111: Could you pitch in too, kindly.
Thanks.

 

[antonioa77]

a logical senario!

ok, here what seems to be logical for BEC:

1-two centers r set up in a way that dallas is to pick up backlog from regions 4 5 6 (west) and all states depending on them, and phili for regions 1 2 3(east).

2- there will be 120 employees at each centers , around 60 to 80 of them will be analysits and the remaining will be entering data to the system as more shipments for dol and swa come.
therefore, the actual number of analysts will be 60 to 80 not 120 in each center. assuming that half of them will be for RIR and the other half for regular cases. this means for rir there will be around 30 to 40 analystsper center.

3- having 30 to 40 analysts for rir and assuming that an average of 10 applications r processed a day by each one of them, this means that 300 to 400 applications of rir r cleared everyday or around 2000 a week or 8000 rir per month from each center.

4-i think fifo in the term of dol means that they will begin by the states that have earliest processing time and go through them till make them current then they will go to the other states with the second early processing date.
this analysis means that each state will be cleared first before going to another one. i think this is what they mean by fifo. there is a difference by fifo of states and fifo of applications. this makes a big difference.

comments?

 

[Zany_Brainy]

What I just understood..

As per this document
http://www.immigrationportal.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9290

IS

The only FLC mentioned in the letter which will get its Cases transferred to the BECs (both Philly and Texas) is San Francisco.

It specifically states that SFO has the oldest cases in the Queue. Going by that I think they are looking at RD not at PD when it comes to processing DOL cases and they are looking at PD when analyzing the SWA cases.

Thanks