Road trips to canada

abhiku

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Do I need to report road trips to Canada (Vancouver) on part #7 which were of 24hrs and more? I live in Seattle and travelled by car. There was no paper record e.g. paper ticket, itinerary or something like that.
 
Road trips more than 24 hrs. are no exception. They need to be reported. That's the rule but it is upto you to decide. Consider the fact that CBP may not know when you entered Canada but they know when you came back into USA.
 
Road trips more than 24 hrs. are no exception. They need to be reported. That's the rule but it is upto you to decide. Consider the fact that CBP may not know when you entered Canada but they know when you came back into USA.

How do they know when I came back to US? They don't swipe the PR card or ask us to check in the with the immigration.

I just showed the PR card to CBP officer, he asked few questions e.g. when I went and where do I work, that's all.

The problem is I don't have record of all the trips made to vancouver by roads. I will try to dig up my memory though.
 
I thought they would stamp your passport....If that is not a case, burden is on your side to prove that you came back and did not break the continious residency rules.
 
If the US border guard didn't pull up your plate while you were out side in your car, they definitely pulled your plate number inside as they have camera's at all points of entry. Sometimes they will swipe your GC as well this is how they can tell all your trips back into the US. Try and be as accurate as you can.
 
You'll just need to dig up clues from memory and friends and family to figure out when those trips were to the best of your ability. If you drove with your spouse or friend, they might remember. If you visited somebody in Vancouver, they might remember. If you know the approximate month, and you bought something with your credit card while over there, you may be able to view the credit card statement online to see the date of purchase. If you took pictures and the camera stamps a date on the pictures, that also would help.

Then at the end of it all, list the trips on a separate piece of paper and include a statement on the paper to say that the dates are only approximate because you have no passport stamps or other concrete record of them, and there might be one or two very short trips that may have been forgotten.
 
Indeed, you should indicate whatever you remember. When I was staying for a month in Victoria, British Columbia, I made a day trip by boat to the Washington State and back to Victoria. Nobody put any stamps in the passport. However I did indicate it my N 400.
 
Thanks guys for your advice!

I have recalled all the trips which were more than 24hrs with overnight stay at Vancouver. I dig up my outlook OOF, credit card statements and email records for hotel reservations.

btw I'm not putting those trips when I returned to seattle on the same day e.g. evening.
 
I wonder how one reports cruises that visit both US ports (Puerto Rico, USVI, Northeast US) and foreign countries (Bahamas, St. Martin, Canada, etc)... I've done a few cruises and since the vessel (ship) is foreign flagged I think it counts as a day even if you're anchored in San Juan, PR....

This gets really interesting in Hawaii cruises since you leave for LA, sail all the way to Hawaii and back and then right the last day you stop in a Mexico port for a day (to meet some arcane requirement). So, if the ship is foreign do you count this as 10 days out of the US, or 1 (the 1 day in Mexico)
 
I wonder how one reports cruises that visit both US ports (Puerto Rico, USVI, Northeast US) and foreign countries (Bahamas, St. Martin, Canada, etc)... I've done a few cruises and since the vessel (ship) is foreign flagged I think it counts as a day even if you're anchored in San Juan, PR....

This gets really interesting in Hawaii cruises since you leave for LA, sail all the way to Hawaii and back and then right the last day you stop in a Mexico port for a day (to meet some arcane requirement). So, if the ship is foreign do you count this as 10 days out of the US, or 1 (the 1 day in Mexico)
This is my take on it:

If you're visiting other US states (Hawaii) or territories (Puerto Rico) they wouldn't count as time outside US. For example, with a cruise from Florida to Cozumel, Grand Caymen, Puerto Rico, and USVI you would only count full (24 hrs) days outside the US in the foreign countries. Also, any full days in international waters count as time outside the US (unless the ship is US registered).
 
And since no cruise ship I know is registered in the US (NCL had *one* if memory serves right) then it's settled...
 
Hi abhiku,

I even checked the date and time on all the digital picture I took on short trips to BC or Alberta.
No harm in reporting all trips to Canada.
 
Do I need to report road trips to Canada (Vancouver) on part #7 which were of 24hrs and more? I live in Seattle and travelled by car. There was no paper record e.g. paper ticket, itinerary or something like that.

During my interview, the IO asked me about any trips to Canada or Mexico.
 
Actually, they don't have a record of such trips unless they swipe your card. My sister used to do this a lot. When she went to the interview she explained this to the IO and he told her 'Ma'am, we can't tell you what dates to make up on the form' - hence in not so many words, we don't care. She tried to put a few lines down when the IO told her 'that'll be enough'. SO, based upon that, try to put down what you know - don't sweat it if it's not 100% though.
 
Also, any full days in international waters count as time outside the US (unless the ship is US registered).
I don't think a ship counts as sovereign territory of its country of registration so I would say that being in international waters counts as being outside the US regardless of the registration.
 
I always find it strange that greencard holders who presumably know that they may oneday apply for citizenship don't keep records of all their trips.
 
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