Real ID Act passed by the Senate

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Punjabi_Munda

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I read in todays newspaper that the US Senate approved the Real-ID Act. Where does that leave us? Did this bill still had removal of Cap included? Does anyone know more about it?
 
Wow! well first of all it still would need to be signed by Bush. But what implications does it have on Asylees, I am not sure. I think it would remove the exisiting cap but make it harder to apply for Asylum in future.

Anybody!
 
where is the news.??? i read somebody said in this forum that the bill will be voted in congress on 4/6/05, which is today.
 
I was reading about the act other day. It makes getting asylum in the US about 100 times harder than it is now. They will require corroborative evidence which for some persecuted asylees is almost impossible to obtain.

It is really sad where this country is going with such anti-immigration policies.
 
So this act would make things easier (or shorter I should say) for current asylees who are waiting due to 10,000 quota but make things harder for future ones.
 
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Lazer that is exactly right. All the current asylees (and also future asylees) will be eligible for adjustment of their status to the PR status right away. How fast USCIS can process is another story. Like refugees have no cap but their processing is still two years behind....
 
If I understand it right, the Senate has not yet voted on this Bill. Correct me it I am wrong.

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Punjabi_Munda said:
I read in todays newspaper that the US Senate approved the Real-ID Act. Where does that leave us? Did this bill still had removal of Cap included? Does anyone know more about it?
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The link you provided is for a STATE Law in Wisconsin. It has nothing to do with the REAL ID Act per se.

There is a good chance that the REAL ID Act will be approved by the Senate in the near future. It is a good piece of legislation. It enhances homeland security, removes the asylee cap and eliminates abuses of the asylum system.
 
Can someone explain if the bill has passed and what good in it for us (asylees)? But please no guesses.
 
ayyubov said:
Can someone explain if the bill has passed and what good in it for us (asylees)? But please no guesses.
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Have you been reading the messages on this topic?? As of right now you will have to wait 10+ years before you can get your green card. If this became law then you would get your green card as soon as the INS finishes your paperwork.
 
Would you support Real ID bill without removal of caps for asylee adjustment?

2 questions - I asked them before but only a few answered:

1) Would you support Real ID bill without removal of caps for asylee adjustment?

2) Do you think it is an anti-immigratrant, xenophobic bill? :rolleyes:

My answers are a big NO (1), and a big YES (2).

Intersting articles to read on that are somewhat related to the issue:

Real ID, Unreal Expectations - L. A. Times @
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion...5998660.story?coll=la-news-comment-editorials

Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security With Billions - N. Y. Times @
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/b...l=1&adxnnlx=1112812264-yVnm94lcrYjpdB5MNha0Yw
 
The short answers to your questions are a resounding yes(1) and a resounding no(2).

Real ID Act would help curb flagrant abuses of the asylum process. In the long term this is critical to sustaining domestic support for the asylum/refugee system. We do not need the asylum situation becoming a major political issue like it is happening in England now (where there is rising grassroots disgust the number of apparently fake asylees in the country).

Forty states in the Union already check immigration status for licensing purposes. Having a national standard would actually help refugees and asylees.



henri97 said:
2 questions - I asked them before but only a few answered:

1) Would you support Real ID bill without removal of caps for asylee adjustment?

2) Do you think it is an anti-immigratrant, xenophobic bill? :rolleyes:

My answers are a big NO (1), and a big YES (2).

Intersting articles to read on that are somewhat related to the issue:

Real ID, Unreal Expectations - L. A. Times @
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion...5998660.story?coll=la-news-comment-editorials

Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security With Billions - N. Y. Times @
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/b...l=1&adxnnlx=1112812264-yVnm94lcrYjpdB5MNha0Yw
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canterbury2 said:
Have you been reading the messages on this topic?? As of right now you will have to wait 10+ years before you can get your green card. If this became law then you would get your green card as soon as the INS finishes your paperwork.
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The question was did it pass Senate today or not? Can somebody explain?
 
OK' I'll play your game, my answers are YES and NO. I don't care what liberal left media spins the asylum process is become a way to get the GC with many fake cases out there. Do a search and see how many do find ways to or can't wait to get the GC so they can go to the same place they claim protection from without even mentioning that the oppressive gov has changed or there is no reason to be afraid. Also is sad but true asylum is a way for people that not only don't deserve asylum but they been the cause of suffering for many real asylees. I know members of secret police, street spies and members of communist party in my country that got asylum here. How many are there from other countries?
Will there be cases of real asylum that would be denied hell yea but I hate to break the news that's already happening everyday without the bill. The outcome of interview process is pretty much sometimes dependent on luck (how the IO feels that day). I know people that suffered and got rapped and never got the interview or even the appeal process and I know cases that were made up completely from start to end and made the IO choke and cry..

BTW how I know some of this I have a member of my close family that used to work as a translator for INS....

henri97 said:
2 questions - I asked them before but only a few answered:

1) Would you support Real ID bill without removal of caps for asylee adjustment?

2) Do you think it is an anti-immigratrant, xenophobic bill? :rolleyes:

My answers are a big NO (1), and a big YES (2).

Intersting articles to read on that are somewhat related to the issue:

Real ID, Unreal Expectations - L. A. Times @
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion...5998660.story?coll=la-news-comment-editorials

Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security With Billions - N. Y. Times @
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/b...l=1&adxnnlx=1112812264-yVnm94lcrYjpdB5MNha0Yw
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hampton8844 said:
The short answers to your questions are a resounding yes(1) and a resounding no(2).

Real ID Act would help curb flagrant abuses of the asylum process. In the long term this is critical to sustaining domestic support for the asylum/refugee system. We do not need the asylum situation becoming a major political issue like it is happening in England now (where there is rising grassroots disgust the number of apparently fake asylees in the country).

Forty states in the Union already check immigration status for licensing purposes. Having a national standard would actually help refugees and asylees.
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I wish that you could define what you mean by "fake asylum." Most asylum cases are approved by circumstantial evidences such as the condition of a particular minority or the life style of an asylee (i.e. being gay, threat of female circumcision, involuntary sterilization, etc.) in addition to how convincing the asylee is in telling his/her story. What this bill will do is to ask judges not to use circumstantial evidence in making their decision. Rather, judges are asked to demand more rigorous evidence. For example, you can not use the Department of State’s annual report on your country or the UN report on this country. Rather, they will ask you to provide physical evidence, something impossible to produce. What the simple minded republicans want is concrete evidence. Do they really expect you to ask your oppressors to make confessions? This is how I read the whole thing: There is a “white anxiety” in this country. Many whites feel that their numbers are dwindling and they feel threatened by that. They hope that republicans will save them. They are anxious that most immigrants come from "non-white" countries and this creates a lot of anxiety for them. This is just my 2 cents
 
Another possibility...

One thing which is not mentioned in this bill in detail is that if you are gay then you'll get a male asylum officer and you will have to have sex with that asylum officer during your interview to prove that you are really gay unless you have pictures to prove it otherwise and vice versa for lesbian...... :p :p :p Yeah right :p :p :p
This more corroborative proof thing sucks. Sometime this is just not possible. Its like interviewer asking the asylum seeker,
Asylum seeker: "crying while talking", Sir, I was raped by those bastards....
Interviewer : Oh do you have any proof of that?
Asylum seeker:Like what?
Interviewer : I think an affidavit from the people who raped you should do it. You wanna go back and get that real quick? We can reschedule this interview until then.
Asylum seeker:You gotta be shittin me dude.
Interviewer : No, I kid you not, that's the law now. You still wanna pursue this asylum case?
Asylum seeker: Nah man, if I have to go back to get the proof, I might as well stay there and get used to of it. Thanks anyway.... :D :D :D
 
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curious

:rolleyes:

Not only this is a anti immigration bill, but I also find this bill to be actually an anti asylee; what I mean by "anti asylee bill" is that people with real motives to apply for asylum will be sent back to their countries. Why can't people see that (if you are an asylee (and may some members in this forum are not asylees)), IT COULD BE YOU GETTING YOUR ASYLUM APPLICATION DENIED.

In 94, the law changed that reduced a lot fraudlent applications in the asylee system. For sure, some changes should be made but not like that!
 
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