Port of Entry: Which ones are hassles?

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wantmygcnow

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Since every airport has different rules, its best to create a thread to reveal which POE has been easier for people with RP or RTD. Here is my summary:

With Green Card in Hand:

WAshington Dulles: RP or RTD always gets you to secondary inspection
Philadelphia: RP or RTD always gets you to secondary inspection
Newark: Stamped RTD or RP without Secondary inspection.
JFK: Stamped RTD or RP without secondary inspection.
Detroit: Stamped RTD or RP without secondary inspection.

Add your experiences and I will just make ONE post.
 
everything depends of the IO

wantmygcnow said:
Since every airport has different rules, its best to create a thread to reveal which POE has been easier for people with RP or RTD. Here is my summary:

With Green Card in Hand:

WAshington Dulles: RP or RTD always gets you to secondary inspection
Philadelphia: RP or RTD always gets you to secondary inspection
Newark: Stamped RTD or RP without Secondary inspection.
JFK: Stamped RTD or RP without secondary inspection.
Detroit: Stamped RTD or RP without secondary inspection.

Add your experiences and I will just make ONE post.
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I got a secondary inspection in EWR in 2005 before I got my GC, I went to UK 2 weeks ago and When I came back i didn't have a secondary inspection:)
 
dfvm said:
I got a secondary inspection in EWR in 2005 before I got my GC, I went to UK 2 weeks ago and When I came back i didn't have a secondary inspection:)
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Please read carefully..It says entry after GC...Before GC everyone goes through secondary.
 
Houston

wantmygcnow said:
Please read carefully..It says entry after GC...Before GC everyone goes through secondary.
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Now, that I read Correctly and I remember another one, I went to a secondary inspection in Houston, last year, to be exact sep 26/2006
 
wantmygcnow said:
Since every airport has different rules, its best to create a thread to reveal which POE has been easier for people with RP or RTD. Here is my summary:

With Green Card in Hand:

WAshington Dulles: RP or RTD always gets you to secondary inspection
Philadelphia: RP or RTD always gets you to secondary inspection
Newark: Stamped RTD or RP without Secondary inspection.
JFK: Stamped RTD or RP without secondary inspection.
Detroit: Stamped RTD or RP without secondary inspection.

Add your experiences and I will just make ONE post.
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want! the amount of hassle at POE depends more on the personality of I/O, his mood, his biases, his knowledge than anything else. POE do not make their own rules, these come from USCIS. So we will not accomplish anything by generalizing which POEs were easy to enter because then another forum will come back and say that he was given crap on the same POE.
makes sense?
 
Miami

With Green Card in Hand:

Miami Int. Airport: NP + GC . No Secondary, just asked duration of trip.

Im 100% sure, that traveling with GC and any other document different to NP, freaks out any IO. if I were a new IO with not a complete knowledge , i will inmediately realize that a person using GC and RTD is afraid or hiding something and that is why secondary comes next.
 
fasaavedra said:
With Green Card in Hand:

Miami Int. Airport: NP + GC . No Secondary, just asked duration of trip.

Im 100% sure, that traveling with GC and any other document different to NP, freaks out any IO. if I were a new IO with not a complete knowledge , i will inmediately realize that a person using GC and RTD is afraid or hiding something and that is why secondary comes next.
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But the instruction to I-131 form says that the LPR who got this status as a result of asylee MUST obtain a RTD before travelling abroad. It is so confusing.
 
Lazerthegreat said:
want! the amount of hassle at POE depends more on the personality of I/O, his mood, his biases, his knowledge than anything else. POE do not make their own rules, these come from USCIS. So we will not accomplish anything by generalizing which POEs were easy to enter because then another forum will come back and say that he was given crap on the same POE.
makes sense?
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Lazer. No thats not true. If you go through Dulless, they make every RP or RTD holder go through secondary. its just not me, its people that I know who have gone to through the same procedure. Dulless has its secondary after customs. In other words, the initial officer doesn't stamp your customs form, you go through pick up your bags and as soon as you area about to exit, they ask you to make a right to secondary which is in a big hall.

I have gone through EWR a lot and everytime they dont make u go through secondary.

So its not the mood of the officer. Believe it or not, lots of POE's have special process for immigrants..for instance POEs closer to borders do process immigrants differently..believe it or not.

Maybe others can back me up on this.
 
absolutely agree

wantmygcnow said:
Lazer. No thats not true. If you go through Dulless, they make every RP or RTD holder go through secondary. its just not me, its people that I know who have gone to through the same procedure. Dulless has its secondary after customs. In other words, the initial officer doesn't stamp your customs form, you go through pick up your bags and as soon as you area about to exit, they ask you to make a right to secondary which is in a big hall.

I have gone through EWR a lot and everytime they dont make u go through secondary.

So its not the mood of the officer. Believe it or not, lots of POE's have special process for immigrants..for instance POEs closer to borders do process immigrants differently..believe it or not.

Maybe others can back me up on this.
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I am 100% agree with you, Houston airpot is a pain in the A**:confused:
 
rustik said:
But the instruction to I-131 form says that the LPR who got this status as a result of asylee MUST obtain a RTD before travelling abroad. It is so confusing.
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I got an Infopass appoinment last year and i showed the IO that instruction . The IO said me "If you have a valid passport of your country, since you are LPR, you don't need get a RTD nor RP", but when i read that instruction, i feel confused about what it means.:confused:

Travelco
GC holder since 01/2005
 
wantmygcnow said:
Lazer. No thats not true. If you go through Dulless, they make every RP or RTD holder go through secondary. its just not me, its people that I know who have gone to through the same procedure. Dulless has its secondary after customs. In other words, the initial officer doesn't stamp your customs form, you go through pick up your bags and as soon as you area about to exit, they ask you to make a right to secondary which is in a big hall.

I have gone through EWR a lot and everytime they dont make u go through secondary.

So its not the mood of the officer. Believe it or not, lots of POE's have special process for immigrants..for instance POEs closer to borders do process immigrants differently..believe it or not.

Maybe others can back me up on this.
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Absolutely right.4 times landing @ JFK on RTD+GC and one time on RP+GC,no secondary.This is my own experience.
 
i disagree with you

wantmygcnow said:
Lazer. No thats not true. If you go through Dulless, they make every RP or RTD holder go through secondary. its just not me, its people that I know who have gone to through the same procedure. Dulless has its secondary after customs. In other words, the initial officer doesn't stamp your customs form, you go through pick up your bags and as soon as you area about to exit, they ask you to make a right to secondary which is in a big hall.

I have gone through EWR a lot and everytime they dont make u go through secondary.

So its not the mood of the officer. Believe it or not, lots of POE's have special process for immigrants..for instance POEs closer to borders do process immigrants differently..believe it or not.

Maybe others can back me up on this.
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after i got my green card 2 years ago, i travelled several times,

i came back to usa 2 times through dulles airport using RP, THEY NEVER

GAVE ME HARD TIME, I DID NOT GO THROUGH SECAND INSPECTION,


I REALLY AGREE WITH LAZER, EVERYTHING DEPEND ON THE IO,

I FOUND WITH MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT WHITE OFFICERS ARE

THE BEST, VERY PROFESSIONAL WITH GOOD COMMUNICATION SKILLS,

CHINESE , SPANISH, AND BLACK OFFICERS ARE RUDE AND
MEAN SPIRITED
 
Boston Logan is one of the best one. Pretty pleasant officers and no secondary inspection. Didn't have any problems in JFK too. Washington Dulles has always been one of the most brutal.
 
Chicago O'hare is very smooth for NP+GC. They will clear you in 20 seconds. However they are usually confused if GC holder shows them RTD or RP. It is seen that they ask few questions and usually let you go without any secondary inspection.
 
Want,

I went three times through Dulless with GC and RP and never got sent to secondary! Just hello and goodbye.


wantmygcnow said:
Lazer. No thats not true. If you go through Dulless, they make every RP or RTD holder go through secondary. its just not me, its people that I know who have gone to through the same procedure. Dulless has its secondary after customs. In other words, the initial officer doesn't stamp your customs form, you go through pick up your bags and as soon as you area about to exit, they ask you to make a right to secondary which is in a big hall.

I have gone through EWR a lot and everytime they dont make u go through secondary.

So its not the mood of the officer. Believe it or not, lots of POE's have special process for immigrants..for instance POEs closer to borders do process immigrants differently..believe it or not.

Maybe others can back me up on this.
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Now if you are treated bad by IO at port of entry, you can file a complian.

My friend who is a US citizen for 12 years few times at JFK, he was sent to secondary inspection, so finally he called DHS and asked why he has to go through second inspection, the person he spoke to gave her this info, file a complain on line to DHS. You need all your travel dates and info to file a complain. I am going to post the link, but it is through TSA.GOV.

http://www.dhs.gov/xtrvlsec/programs/gc_1169826536380.shtm

If you think, you are not treated fairly, file a complain and stop this harrasment. We work hard and pay taxes and don't deserve to start a thread like this one, no matter where we enter, we want to hear " welcome home" like the old good days.
 
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should we do something about this?

I have been following this forum for a few months now, it seems that no one seems to come up to a good solution as to what should we do as a green card holder in dealing with the Immigration officer from one POE to another. And I wonder if USCIS knows about their own staffs (IO) at each airports that treat cases so inconsistently, a lot of time contradict to what the rules/fact sheets/law that have been set up by the USCIS. We always have to go back to the same issue again and again, and debating the same thing with no way out.
is ( are) there anyone who has knowledge about this to share the light what do we have to do, should we report any IO who treats GC holder differently than what rules has said to a higher level in USCIS? We are all tax payer, and bearing the same obligation as US citizen, we have the right to be treated equally.
I am personally, surely most of the GC holder as well, want to follow the law, but which one is the correct one? For example we need to have an absolute answer, we can or we can not use National Passport? If we have to use a RTD, they ( IO) in every airport should have known this, why some of them don't or pretend they don't? I am not sure. Perhaps we should write a letter to USCIS about this issue and signed by all of us?
 
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