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Do you know how President Reagan dealt with airport dispatchers when they went on strike? He fired them all. And I think that is the way to go. if you don't like your job, quit.
 
14ksusha said:
I absolutely don't approve of airlines going on strike either! And some airlines lost thousands of dollars after recent strikes because passengers were pissed and swore not to fly with them again. Of course, the illegals life is not easy. But it's still easier than being back in their countries? They came here knowing it's going to be a long ride, with no light at the end of the tunnel. Again, I do sympathize with them, but walking out on work does not help their case and actually helps people who are against them.


you are an idiot.

that is the same as saying that the civil rights movement of the 1960s was illegal. it provided beneficial results, didn't it??? i mean you should know........
disrupting work???? what are you talking about. it IS a protest. you have no clue about the history of this country.

since when was any protest or demonstration clandestine???? that is the very purpose they serve!!!!!!!! is to get attention, dumbass!!!!!! they want to be heard....do you even know why they are protesting???

everyone is crying immigration reform, right??? well these people had the guts to stand up for it. while most people involved in this protest are latinos, their views resonate with a large majority of immigrants, and the benefits would not be one sided!!!!!!! there are over 11 million illegal immigrants in this country, and i guarantee you, more than half are non-latino.

these people are pushing for an immigrant friendly bill, and they respresent the interests of not just one miority group but all migrant groups........
back in the 1950s the protests were primarily about blacks, but also other minorities!!!!!

furthermore, even though they are illegal, these people are protected by the constitution of the united states. remeber, the constitution does not protect only americans, but all PEOPLE on american soil.

these people are not sayng that it is ok to be illegal. all they want to do is push for a bill that will make them legal, by paying back taxes and learning english... just as most of us, they left their homes for a better life, and now only know this country as their home. most of them did not have the means, and not to mention the liberty to return home, see their family, or any other thing that we are on this forum every day crying about!!!!!!!

this country has gone to the length of making a criminal out of every one of us who helps illegals, and they made it a felony now, to enter the us illegaly......... which means, most of us asylees who entered illegaly, or overstayed their visa would now be felons. not to mention the impact that this reform would have on voter regustration.

don't be ignorant and make general statemenst about things you know nothing about. look at the big picture.

i know there are those who say that "we don't owe them citizenship, and civil rights movement was about citizens of the US which these are not," and there are some valid points that the opposition makes, however, i wouldn't expect that much contempt from the very people who are now currently dealing with immigration and have gone through such heart wrenching experiences with them.

be respectful of others, you just might benefit from it!!!!!!!!
 
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The bill HR-4437 they are protesting against could make all those 11 million people criminals!!! Isn't that awful considering that those people contribute to the budget 7 billion dollars in taxes annually! I think they have a full right to protest not only "on week-ends and days off".
 
annaraka said:
you are an idiot.

that is the same as saying that the civil rights movement of the 1960s was illegal. it provided beneficial results, didn't it??? i mean you should know........
disrupting work???? what are you talking about. it IS a protest. you have no clue about the history of this country.

since when was any protest or demonstration clandestine???? that is the very purpose they serve!!!!!!!! is to get attention, dumbass!!!!!! they want to be heard....do you even know why they are protesting???

everyone is crying immigration reform, right??? well these people had the guts to stand up for it. while most people involved in this protest are latinos, their views resonate with a large majority of immigrants, and the benefits would not be one sided!!!!!!! there are over 11 million illegal immigrants in this country, and i guarantee you, more than half are non-latino.

these people are pushing for an immigrant friendly bill, and they respresent the interests of not just one miority group but all migrant groups........
back in the 1950s the protests were primarily about blacks, but also other minorities!!!!!

furthermore, even though they are illegal, these people are protected by the constitution of the united states. remeber, the constitution does not protect only americans, but all PEOPLE on american soil.

these people are not sayng that it is ok to be illegal. all they want to do is push for a bill that will make them legal, by paying back taxes and learning english... just as most of us, they left their homes for a better life, and now only know this country as their home. most of them did not have the means, and not to mention the liberty to return home, see their family, or any other thing that we are on this forum every day crying about!!!!!!!

this country has gone to the length of making a criminal out of every one of us who helps illegals, and they made it a felony now, to enter the us illegaly......... which means, most of us asylees who entered illegaly, or overstayed their visa would now be felons. not to mention the impact that this reform would have on voter regustration.

don't be ignorant and make general statemenst about things you know nothing about. look at the big picture.

i know there are those who say that "we don't owe them citizenship, and civil rights movement was about citizens of the US which these are not," and there are some valid points that the opposition makes, however, i wouldn't expect that much contempt from the very people who are now currently dealing with immigration and have gone through such heart wrenching experiences with them.

be respectful of others, you just might benefit from it!!!!!!!!

Don't be rude! I am just expressing my opinion, if you want to start a fight I can call you names too, but on a separate thread. Don't embarrass yourself, Annaraka, or should I say, AnnaSuckah???
 
14ksusha said:
Don't be rude! I am just expressing my opinion, if you want to start a fight I can call you names too, but on a separate thread. Don't embarrass yourself, Annaraka, or should I say, AnnaSuckah???


Hillarious!!!!!!!................
 
annaraka said:
you are an idiot.

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be respectful of others, you just might benefit from it!!!!!!!!

Annaraka, ..
u just called her idiot :o

I'm not defending anyone or against anyone. I'm neutral. I have several illegal friends and I know if I didn't get my asylum approved I'll be one of them. so yeah ...
 
Minsk said:
The bill HR-4437 they are protesting against could make all those 11 million people criminals!!! Isn't that awful considering that those people contribute to the budget 7 billion dollars in taxes annually! I think they have a full right to protest not only "on week-ends and days off".

Well, I am not saying that they should be made criminals. I am an immigrant myself! Of course, I am supporting their cause, I just disagree with their way of protesting, just because it will not do anybody any good. It will ignite the anti-immigrant feelings and work against them, and it can be somebody's goal. By the way, in history, there were a lot of examples how small reactionist groups manipulated large groups of unhappy and disadvantaged people to their advantage.
 
14ksusha said:
Well, I am not saying that they should be made criminals. I am an immigrant myself! Of course, I am supporting their cause, I just disagree with their way of protesting, just because it will not do anybody any good. It will ignite the anti-immigrant feelings and work against them, and it can be somebody's goal. By the way, in history, there were a lot of examples how small reactionist groups manipulated large groups of unhappy and disadvantaged people to their advantage.

Anyone who protests and takes off work, its their buisness. Its stupid for media to say that people left work because of protests. Well its personal business. I can take off work to join a protest or go to a doctor or just visit J.C Penney to buy some underpants...big freaking deal!!

Why didn't anyone question George Clooney who gathered 10k in washington d.c on Sunday about peace in Sudan?? Didn't most of them miss work too??

As to the motive behind the protests? I think the protests are largely because of HR 4437 which makes illegal alien a criminal. Thats what brought the wrath. True, congress doesn't have to do anything for them but the reality is that most of the work they do, locals don't want to do..its a reality...

If the protests didn't happen, there was a possiblity of the bill being passed.

If anyone remembers, the 1996 law which created the 3 year & 10 year bar for simple things such as overstaying 1 day on a visa etc.. If protests had happened before, we wouldn't have that stupid law created.

But one thing is that they cannot let them CUT in line. If someone is waiting for his/her application to be adjusted, they should not be allowed to adjusted before them. They should address all backlogs before giving any new Visas to anyone.

Also millions of spouses/kids of Legal Permanent Residents are not allowed to visit U.S but U.S law requires you to claim them as your dependents and also pay any taxes on your spouses foreign income. If they do give status to undocumented, they also need to address legal PR problems.

The whole freaking Immigration system needs to be updated. It is so archaic!
 
14ksusha said:
Don't be rude! I am just expressing my opinion, if you want to start a fight I can call you names too, but on a separate thread. Don't embarrass yourself, Annaraka, or should I say, AnnaSuckah???


Oh?????? how can you be critical of me when you have so much contempt for others???????
 
annaraka said:
Oh?????? how can you be critical of me when you have so much contempt for others???????

I am not critical of you, I am just telling you not to be rude, I guess they didn't teach you that in your 'elite' family. Although I don't really care what you call me or what deep thoughts you express in your 'crafty texts'.
 
14ksusha said:
And what exactly is this about? Making demands and inconveniencing everybody else, including themselves? They didn't pick up bulk trash today, because there was a shortage of workers because of the protests. But guess who threw out those sofas and stoves? Their fellow amigos! WE live in a very ethnically diverse area, predominantly Latin Americans. While I do have a clue what this is all about and sympathize with legals or illegals, I don;t think walking out on jobs is the proper way to express your feelings and, moreover, demand benefits.
 

Yes, Annafucka, your word processing skills are quite impressive. Can't say the same about thinking and reasoning. Must be something in the family history. I do hope they deny your GC based on that.
 
14ksusha said:
Yes, Annafucka, your word processing skills are quite impressive. Can't say the same about thinking and reasoning. Must be something in the family history. I do hope they deny your GC based on that.

:eek: ... :(

lets call it even ladies. annaraka insult u and now u insult her. :(
 
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Please stop the fighting!

My dear friends -

Please do not fight over this. I post my request to ask for your support. If you do not like us illegal immigrants, it is okay. We are not trying to make trouble. I want all of us to work together to push the government for a bill to grant amnesty to all illegal immigrants and not make us criminals. We want to be legal so that we do not have to hide and have the same rights as others. If we work together, we can all get to the promised land like Dr. King said. I want to say, yes we can! Si se puede! Si se puede!

Juan
 
JuanSorano61 said:
My dear friends -

Please do not fight over this. I post my request to ask for your support. If you do not like us illegal immigrants, it is okay. We are not trying to make trouble. I want all of us to work together to push the government for a bill to grant amnesty to all illegal immigrants and not make us criminals. We want to be legal so that we do not have to hide and have the same rights as others. If we work together, we can all get to the promised land like Dr. King said. I want to say, yes we can! Si se puede! Si se puede!

Juan

Nobody here said 'we don't like illegal immigrants'. However not everybody supports your strike as a means of 'pushing the government'. We are all entitled to different opinions.
 
14ksusha said:
Yes, Annafucka, your word processing skills are quite impressive. Can't say the same about thinking and reasoning. Must be something in the family history. I do hope they deny your GC based on that.


God, you ARE an idiot!!!!!!!!
 
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JuanSorano61 said:
My dear friends -

Please do not fight over this. I post my request to ask for your support. If you do not like us illegal immigrants, it is okay. We are not trying to make trouble. I want all of us to work together to push the government for a bill to grant amnesty to all illegal immigrants and not make us criminals. We want to be legal so that we do not have to hide and have the same rights as others. If we work together, we can all get to the promised land like Dr. King said. I want to say, yes we can! Si se puede! Si se puede!

Juan


I suuport your cause Juan. Si se puede; claro!!!!

"Nunca somos bastante fuertes que no necesitamos ayuda." Cesar Chavez (1927-1993)
 
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14ksusha said:
And what exactly is this about? Making demands and inconveniencing everybody else, including themselves? They didn't pick up bulk trash today, because there was a shortage of workers because of the protests. But guess who threw out those sofas and stoves? Their fellow amigos! WE live in a very ethnically diverse area, predominantly Latin Americans. While I do have a clue what this is all about and sympathize with legals or illegals, I don;t think walking out on jobs is the proper way to express your feelings and, moreover, demand benefits.


I can feel anger in your posts....relax!!!.....

Guacho
 
14ksusha said:
If I were illegal here, I would probably fight for my cause by organizing meetings and writing petitions on my days OFF. I would not consider walking out on employer just to tell everybody how important I am in this country's economy.

That is EXACTLY what illegal immigrants have been doing during the last two months, well I agree there is no need to do this boycotts to let everybody know how important they are..but they are really important indeed.

Guacho.
 
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