Philadelphia Backlog Elimination Center Tracking

sanbaj said:
Asking again. What are the ways we can find the latest status on a case at Philly BPC? Any automated inquiry phone #, website, e-mail, etc.

Any info welcome.
Thanks!
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Sanbaj: Don't be so damn lazy, everyday we get somenew new asking how to get status. Spend a few minutes to read the old messages.


JW: sorry to hear about the mess, hope they reopen it quickly and approve it at the same time.
 
very sad

StressTestInUSA said:
Justwatching...

no kidding man..!! take a day-off and goto PBEC...its a too good PD to keep days passing by...!!

call up PBEC or go there with all your papers...forget attornies etc..they r not in our shoes...!!
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It's too much....... :mad:
 
visit PBEC

StressTestInUSA said:
Justwatching...

no kidding man..!! take a day-off and goto PBEC...its a too good PD to keep days passing by...!!

call up PBEC or go there with all your papers...forget attornies etc..they r not in our shoes...!!
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If we visit PBEC then can we get to talk to someone or get the case status. pelase let me know if someone has done it before. I don't mind taking a day off and going there.
 
Stress Test

StressTestInUSA said:
radd..

once you know, pls update us on this man..as to who gets the actual approval letter...I am sure many of us r still not hanging around the same residential address for the past 4-5yrs...!!
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Just checked with attorney.. Certified ETA 750 is with him. Even if you don't get a copy of the approval letter at your residence.. it's ok.. it's only a letter not the actual form. Your attorney will get the certified ETA.

radd
 
gawd only knows how these guys r operating.....like someone said earlier ...it is worse than the govt offices back home...

trust me...off late a buch of my hair has turned grey with all this stress....I can only blame PBEC for this :)

going to PBEC might be initial cases they 'might' look into....but if the rush builds up in that que, they might not entertain that...

If I was in Justwatching shoes...I wud have gone...even if they r not ready to hear me, if they say ..only the employer is allowed to talk, then take a letter from the employer that he cant make it coming to PA...
 
radd said:
Just checked with attorney.. Certified ETA 750 is with him. Even if you don't get a copy of the approval letter at your residence.. it's ok.. it's only a letter not the actual form. Your attorney will get the certified ETA.

radd
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thx radd for the info....cant imagine having some more trouble with the approved labor lost in the mail...!!


congrats ..that u r out of this shit....
 
DBEC approved MARCH 2005 case today, found this in dallas forum

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THIS IS FROM MURTHY FORUMS.......

posted February 16, 2006 03:37 PM
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March 25, 2005 labor approved

Hey guys,
Hold your breath. My labor got approved today. It is approved in less than one year!!!!!!!!!!! Here are the details:

PD - March, 25, 2005
45 day letter - Sept. 10, 2005.
Category - EB3 RIR
State - Dallas, TX
Labor Cleared - Feb. 10, 2006.

Murty.
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This is so un-f*****g-believable :-( . I know life is not suppose to be fair but this is just too much. Approval from backlog under 1 year. :mad:
 
JW - This really sucks man... It is crazy to get the closure notice after hanging on to this PBEC thread for such a long time.

I agree with StressTestInUSA that you should personally visit PBEC and knock their doors till you don't get to meet the concerned official. They might be able to help you out with your case on one-to-one basis. It is worth a try !!

This is indeed frustating to see such kinda nonsense going on day after day.. :mad:

StressTestInUSA said:
gawd only knows how these guys r operating.....like someone said earlier ...it is worse than the govt offices back home...

trust me...off late a buch of my hair has turned grey with all this stress....I can only blame PBEC for this :)

going to PBEC might be initial cases they 'might' look into....but if the rush builds up in that que, they might not entertain that...

If I was in Justwatching shoes...I wud have gone...even if they r not ready to hear me, if they say ..only the employer is allowed to talk, then take a letter from the employer that he cant make it coming to PA...
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JW - This really sucks man... It is crazy to get the closure notice after hanging on to this PBEC thread for such a long time.

I agree with StressTestInUSA that you should personally visit PBEC and knock their doors till you don't get to meet the concerned official. They might be able to help you out with your case on one-to-one basis. It is worth a try !!

This is indeed frustating to see such kinda nonsense going on day after day.. :mad:

StressTestInUSA said:
gawd only knows how these guys r operating.....like someone said earlier ...it is worse than the govt offices back home...

trust me...off late a buch of my hair has turned grey with all this stress....I can only blame PBEC for this :)

going to PBEC might be initial cases they 'might' look into....but if the rush builds up in that que, they might not entertain that...

If I was in Justwatching shoes...I wud have gone...even if they r not ready to hear me, if they say ..only the employer is allowed to talk, then take a letter from the employer that he cant make it coming to PA...
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mariner555 said:
I am sure that there are many people here (like me) who know that their cases start with P but they dont have 45 days letter. lawyer says that all that she has been able to get is that the case is in pbec.
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exactly, that's why I say don't rely on your lawyers to wait on the letter, you should ask your HR to write a letter to PBEC explaining that they want to go forward with your case. If the lawyers eventually receive the letter later, they'll reply to that too, which is fine.

Lawyers don't want to be proactive, but if I were in your situation, I would definitely ask HR to do it. It won't hurt your case absolutely, and that could save you months in closing/re-opening, etc.
 
bostonqa said:
I'm not sure I understand your point 'their system does NOT control whether 45 days have elapsed or not'

They closed the case because either the attorney/employer did not respond to 45-day letter. So somehow they know that 45 days or more have passed since they issued letters. How do they know this? They must be tagging something to make sure they have issued 45 days letter for a case/cases.

BEC need to clarify this somehow, it’s utterly insane to close case and have it reopened.
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If you read JW's story carefully, it's clear that the letter was supposedly generated in March/05 or something, then when his case was finally going to be processed in Jan or Feb/06, they noticed the 45 day reply was never received by PBEC, and then closed the case.

They didn't close the case 45 days after the letter was generated. They waited until the case was picked up for processing.

I think they're doing this because if they strictly closed cases after 45 days, the number of closed cases would be so high, it would be insane. Problem is, we never get to know about the letter mishap until the case is actually closed, which means months of wasted time.
 
khogaye said:
If we visit PBEC then can we get to talk to someone or get the case status. pelase let me know if someone has done it before. I don't mind taking a day off and going there.
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Hey street test

before suggestiing anything have some solid logic behind that. Further, if something is asked then have a courtsey to answer that as well. I asked u something after ur post but no reply................ people in this forum are going through vv tough time so think ten times before writing anything.
 
How to findout 45 day letter was issued.

cantstandit said:
If you read JW's story carefully, it's clear that the letter was supposedly generated in March/05 or something, then when his case was finally going to be processed in Jan or Feb/06, they noticed the 45 day reply was never received by PBEC, and then closed the case.

They didn't close the case 45 days after the letter was generated. They waited until the case was picked up for processing.

I think they're doing this because if they strictly closed cases after 45 days, the number of closed cases would be so high, it would be insane. Problem is, we never get to know about the letter mishap until the case is actually closed, which means months of wasted time.
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I understood JW's case. My point is that how does DOL know they have issued 45 day letter for a particular case?

I guess they must be storing all documents related to case in a database, which has bunch of scanned documents plus the forms filled by data entry folks.

It’s pretty obvious that the stages of LCA for backlog cases are
1. Data entry
2. 45-Day letters sent
3. 45-Day letters received
4. Case assigned
5. Case approved

Lets keep this simple, I know between 4 and 5 there could be a lot of other steps.

As we all know the 7th yr extension screen shot used to have a field called case status. And it reflected a lot about the stage your case is in. it would have been very simple for JW had they kept that field to find out if 45-day letter was issued.
 
File for PERM-EB2 or not?

Hi everyone,

Am looking for some advice on whether I should file for a PERM EB2 labor or not, here are the details:

Pending LC PD - July 2003
RIR/EB3
State - PA, made it to Regional
45 day letter received and replied - Feb 2005
6 year H1B ends - Sept 2007

My Employer is allowing me to file for an EB2 PERM right now before my last year starts, is there any advantage for me to do so? Even if the labor clears faster, i will lose my original PD and will have a 2006 EB2 PD.

Any ideas from the gurus on this forum on what i should do ? thanks a lot, and good luck to everyone in their respective cases!
Rishi
 
CAPS and 45-day letter

This is the link that shows an idea on the LC process in BEC's:
http://designed.com/Experience.aspx?ExperienceID=18
Screenshot 4 shows the 45-day letter sample.

Also have a look at Item 2.2 para 3 of this link:
http://www.doleta.gov/sga/rfp/SIM_Training_Manual.cfm
It says: If an application is determined to be incomplete, CAPS will automatically generate a letter to the applying employer and attorney giving the employer 45 days to furnish the missing information (45-day letter).

CAPS system definitely might store the date in its database whenever the 45-day letter was sent.

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PD: 03-Nov-2003
Case# T-05195-22XXX
EB2 RIR NY
45-day letter: Not yet
 
cantstandit said:
If you read JW's story carefully, it's clear that the letter was supposedly generated in March/05 or something, then when his case was finally going to be processed in Jan or Feb/06, they noticed the 45 day reply was never received by PBEC, and then closed the case.

They didn't close the case 45 days after the letter was generated. They waited until the case was picked up for processing.

I think they're doing this because if they strictly closed cases after 45 days, the number of closed cases would be so high, it would be insane. Problem is, we never get to know about the letter mishap until the case is actually closed, which means months of wasted time.
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Does the screen shot indicate whether reply to 45 day letter was received by PBEC?
 
Another Random Approval from PBEC

My friend recently got her LC approval from PBEC. Here are the details:

State: WV
EB-2/RIR
PD: May 2004
45-day letter: Feb 05

Spoke with my lawyer who informed me that they are getting random approvals both from PBEC and DBEC. They've got 2001 cases from both centers that haven't been adjudicated. My lawyer has been able to talk an insider at PBEC and was told that Elaine Chao wanted to know what's going on with the LC process after being bombarded by e-mails from people with pending LC application. They realize that they are not following FIFO but insists that they've got no solution for this problem because of software issues. I guess we cannot rely on any trends. It's like winning a lottery.

I'm still waiting for my LC. My details:

State: WV
EB-2/RIR
PD: Mar 2004
45-day letter: Feb 05
 
They realize that they are not following FIFO but insists that they've got no solution for this problem because of software issues. I guess we cannot rely on any trends. It's like winning a lottery.

With all the technological advances around, can't these people have a database of 360k applications and maintain it. Are they so dumb?. what s/w issues are they talking about?. Even if what DOL is true, if they lay off a couple of incompetent employees and buy a s/w with their annual salary we still can get our approvals much faster. It is just that we are being taken for granted and for a long ride.
 
They should out source the PBEC to Bangalore or Shanghai :rolleyes:

gc_ky123 said:
They realize that they are not following FIFO but insists that they've got no solution for this problem because of software issues. I guess we cannot rely on any trends. It's like winning a lottery.

With all the technological advances around, can't these people have a database of 360k applications and maintain it. Are they so dumb?. what s/w issues are they talking about?. Even if what DOL is true, if they lay off a couple of incompetent employees and buy a s/w with their annual salary we still can get our approvals much faster. It is just that we are being taken for granted and for a long ride.
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