Philadelphia Backlog Elimination Center Tracking

[GOD_BLESS_YOU]

Actually, in DOL's q&a document, it did say that if you have a perm case and a bec case, upon the approval of one case, the other will be denied...

Yes,I agree with that
The note I mentioned is about multiple applications peding for same employee from the same employer irrespective of multiple positions if pending as of AUG31 THE LAST FILED application will be processed...

will this note appliable to ONLY multiple applications under
PERM ?
OR
If two different applications pending one from BEC and one from PERM with the same employer as of Aug 31 only later PERM application will be processed ?

 

[shalinilulla]

Hello Aprlc02 ,
Can you give us an update from inside the BEC.
My PD is April 01 Non - RIR, reponse to the 45 day letter on March.
No one in my company has recieve the LC and there PDs goes from April to Dic 2001.
Thank You

Choclito, is ur PD Apr 2001 ? What state ? When was ur app recvd in regional office ?
Mine is May 2001, non -rir and i'm still waiting

 

[ALANNBERT]

Please Stop Inquiring if you really dont need to

DOL Concern with Abuse of the LC Verification Procedure

The U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) labor certification Backlog Elimination Centers (BEC) have an eMail address available for requesting a screenshot of the date a pending labor certification was filed. This system was begun so that pending labor certification cases could be confirmed to establish eligibility for H1B extensions beyond the six-year limit. The system is apparently being abused by those sending requests that are clearly unrelated to H1B extensions. This misuse is causing delays for bona fide H1B extension applicants.

The Philadelphia BEC reported in July 2005 that they are receiving eMails requesting the case confirmation screen even when the beneficiary is not in H1B status. As a result, the Philadelphia BEC may be delayed in sending the screenshots for legitimate H1B extension cases. The Philadelphia BEC has requested that the eMail address only be used to request screenshots for proof for one-year incremental H1B extensions only.

We presume that people have been utilizing this eMail address simply to verify that a case has reached the BEC. It is certainly understandable that having cases in an untraceable system creates anxiety and even distrust between employer / employee and client / attorney. There are also times when the filing date and proof of the filing date are vital. This is true in cases filed prior to April 30, 2001, for 245(i) qualification. Thus, people may be seeking the proof of filing for purposes of establishing 245(i) eligibility based upon the labor certification filing. The verification system was established, however, for the limited purpose of H1B extensions while the data is being entered into the system. This restriction should be recognized and respected to help everyone in the long run.

On a related but separate matter, we at The Law Office of Sheela Murthy suggest that the DOL may wish to consider permitting verification through the eMail address or another system for other genuine purposes for those who need some verification or are anxious about pending cases. Of course, after the DOL issues all the 45-day continuation letters, the need for the eMail address for H1B extensions is eliminated. The excessive demand for eMail verifications is likely delaying the issuance of the 45-day letters and case processing by the BECs, so it is best to cooperate and use the system sparingly for legitimate cases.

© 2005, The Law Office of Sheela Murthy, P.C. All Rights Reserved

 

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[pleaseGOD]

Originally Posted by mnhrdc
The process of status is in order the case goes through
you are at 5.
1.Incomplete=45day letter not yet generated/Case not entered fully
2.Data Review=45day reply not recieved/45day reply not entered
Falls into TR/RIR Q
3.Closed=45 day reply not recived/Employer closed/BEC erorneosly entered
4.RIR=45 day reply recieved/data entered /under process
5.Final Review= With CO
6.Certified=Certified (May not yet mailed)

Ok, I got a screen snapshot from Philly BEC when I requested proof for 7th year extension .. the case status says TR and processing type is TR ..what does this mean ????

 

[whatheheck]

Fuck you Philly

I guess "Dallas BEC Tracking" thread will be closed very soon as everyone is getting their LC approved. Most of their members are posting their final "Certified" posting there and moving to 140/485 thread.

Look at us. We are screwed up big time by these Philly bastards. These Philly bastards are really making us angry, frustrated. Man i am losing my patience. I feel like .. BASTARDS.

 

[jiangnan]

GOD_BLESS_YOU,
I do not know the exact answers to your questions, but over the years frankly speaking I truly double if they had the willingness and capability to detect those double/multiple files, with so many errors made by these people in Philly. Will these lazy people bother to call PERM, saying hey did this person file PERM overthere?
They definitely can foresee the possibility multiple filing, but they possibly will need training after training and technical updating after updating before they can detect it in a row (yes they may find one or two occasionally for any reason).

I just took a look at some of the rules:

* PERM Cases:
o (1) Once one PERM case is certified, all other PERM applications filed by the same employer for the same employee will be denied regardless of same job or different job.
o (2) Once one PERM case is certified and any backlog case is pending at the Backlog Processing Centers for the same employee, regardless of same job or different job, the Backlog Center will issure Notice of Findings to deny the pending backlog cases.
* Backlog Cases:
o Once one backlog case is certified, any other cases pending at the PERM National Processing Centers or the Backlog Processing Centers will be denied.

But how may they find out the multiple filing? I mean over these years I just see to many people getting their greencard by getting away with so many rules and regulations without being caught. I do not mean we should take advantage of those holes of laws and rules, but it is the fact that the world is just not created to be fair, I am sorry this is the truth, thinking about those illegal immigrants who jumped ahead of us. Pure justice only exists on paper, not in reality show.

If you have the potential to convince your current/future employer to file a PERM, and you and your lawyer reach the agreement of the doability and benefits of doing it, why not give it a try?

Yes,I agree with that
The note I mentioned is about multiple applications peding for same employee from the same employer irrespective of multiple positions if pending as of AUG31 THE LAST FILED application will be processed...

will this note appliable to ONLY multiple applications under
PERM ?
OR
If two different applications pending one from BEC and one from PERM with the same employer as of Aug 31 only later PERM application will be processed ?

 

[jiangnan]

Hi, Sha and Chocolito,
If you two have not done that, you probably will need to consider taking advantage of email address for the 7th year extension, and emailing them to request the status of your case. I personally believe they could only do the so called FIFO in a big map, we just cannot expect them do be that accuratly sticking to FIFO case by case, not to say there are some 01 cases without being entered in their system. I would be happy to know that your cases are actually being reviewed by the CO now.

I do believe people here would not think you two are abusing the email address by doing so, in consideration that you two are waiting for more than four years. I have decided not to do this right now.

Choclito, is ur PD Apr 2001 ? What state ? When was ur app recvd in regional office ?
Mine is May 2001, non -rir and i'm still waiting

 

[mamamiax]

How to calculate....

Hi, Sha and Chocolito,
If you two have not done that, you probably will need to consider taking advantage of email address for the 7th year extension, and emailing them to request the status of your case. I personally believe they could only do the so called FIFO in a big map, we just cannot expect them do be that accuratly sticking to FIFO case by case, not to say there are some 01 cases without being entered in their system. I would be happy to know that your cases are actually being reviewed by the CO now.

I do believe people here would not think you two are abusing the email address by doing so, in consideration that you two are waiting for more than four years. I have decided not to do this right now.

Now I got my LC approved EB3(God knows when HR is going to file i140 since they are not talking anything) once applied for I140 how they process ? is it based on PD(labor) or I140 RD date? Let me know
Thanks

 

[F_Gandhi]

Any thoughts????

Hello All:

I have a question and I would highely appreciate, if anyone on this forum can answer.

Currently my LC is in PBEC, it was moved from CA regional and waiting for approval since May-02.

Two months ago, I got an offer from a employer in Texas and he is willing to file my labor under PERM. I will be joining him only after 140 approved.(Future Employement). He already ran all ads etc.. and planning to file next month.

If he file under PERM, based on new rule, does my current LC(RIR) will be denied? Two different states and different employers and different job titles.

GURU's please advise. I have to call the employer to stop filing PERM, if it is going to jeopardized my current LC.

Thanks

GOD_BLESS_YOU,
I do not know the exact answers to your questions, but over the years frankly speaking I truly double if they had the willingness and capability to detect those double/multiple files, with so many errors made by these people in Philly. Will these lazy people bother to call PERM, saying hey did this person file PERM overthere?
They definitely can foresee the possibility multiple filing, but they possibly will need training after training and technical updating after updating before they can detect it in a row (yes they may find one or two occasionally for any reason).

I just took a look at some of the rules:

* PERM Cases:
o (1) Once one PERM case is certified, all other PERM applications filed by the same employer for the same employee will be denied regardless of same job or different job.
o (2) Once one PERM case is certified and any backlog case is pending at the Backlog Processing Centers for the same employee, regardless of same job or different job, the Backlog Center will issure Notice of Findings to deny the pending backlog cases.
* Backlog Cases:
o Once one backlog case is certified, any other cases pending at the PERM National Processing Centers or the Backlog Processing Centers will be denied.

But how may they find out the multiple filing? I mean over these years I just see to many people getting their greencard by getting away with so many rules and regulations without being caught. I do not mean we should take advantage of those holes of laws and rules, but it is the fact that the world is just not created to be fair, I am sorry this is the truth, thinking about those illegal immigrants who jumped ahead of us. Pure justice only exists on paper, not in reality show.

If you have the potential to convince your current/future employer to file a PERM, and you and your lawyer reach the agreement of the doability and benefits of doing it, why not give it a try?

 

[shalinilulla]

Hi, Sha and Chocolito,
If you two have not done that, you probably will need to consider taking advantage of email address for the 7th year extension, and emailing them to request the status of your case. I personally believe they could only do the so called FIFO in a big map, we just cannot expect them do be that accuratly sticking to FIFO case by case, not to say there are some 01 cases without being entered in their system. I would be happy to know that your cases are actually being reviewed by the CO now.

I sent them an email this morning, I did not send it till today because I thought why abuse this privilege ..but now it is getting too much ..specially since I see people around me who have filed much later getting their approvals .. I got a reply too .. case status says TR ... don't know much about what that means and how long I have to wait !

 

[shalinilulla]

Originally Posted by mnhrdc
The process of status is in order the case goes through
you are at 5.
1.Incomplete=45day letter not yet generated/Case not entered fully
2.Data Review=45day reply not recieved/45day reply not entered
Falls into TR/RIR Q
3.Closed=45 day reply not recived/Employer closed/BEC erorneosly entered
4.RIR=45 day reply recieved/data entered /under process
5.Final Review= With CO
6.Certified=Certified (May not yet mailed)

Thanks for posting this information ..so does that mean step 4 is completed and step 5 is in process ?

 

[GC_SLACER]

Shalini

TR means step 2 I guess.

Thanks for posting this information ..so does that mean step 4 is completed and step 5 is in process ?

 

[jiangnan]

No, Shalinilulla,
Actually another way round is correct. It seems your case is still in the queue or being examined. Final review means it is approved by one of the case examiners and is reviewed by the CO to get certified.

I hope your email inquiry could serve as an alert (assume the screenshot and answer should be manually done by someone there) and your case will be picked up soon. But I suggest you ask you lawyer to contact Philly directly and expedite your case.

Just my 2 cents.

Thanks for posting this information ..so does that mean step 4 is completed and step 5 is in process ?

 

[jiangnan]

By the way TR is traditional recruitment (?, Vs RIR), so you are at step 4.

No, Shalinilulla,
Actually another way round is correct. It seems your case is still in the queue or being examined. Final review means it is approved by one of the case examiners and is reviewed by the CO to get certified.

I hope your email inquiry could serve as an alert (assume the screenshot and answer should be manually done by someone there) and your case will be picked up soon. But I suggest you ask you lawyer to contact Philly directly and expedite your case.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[shalinilulla]

By the way TR is traditional recruitment (?, Vs RIR), so you are at step 4.

Yes, mine is a traditional recruitment case and not RIR .. so I guess u're right, I'm at step 4 .. who knows how long to go ! I've asked my lawyer but haven't heard anything from him yet ... Thanks everyone !

 

[aprlc2002]

hi

Hello Aprlc02 ,
Can you give us an update from inside the BEC.
My PD is April 01 Non - RIR, reponse to the 45 day letter on March.
No one in my company has recieve the LC and there PDs goes from April to Dic 2001.
Thank You

Can you send a private message in details like... when was your app sent to Regional from SWA if it was sent at all.

 

[Choclito]

Choclito, is ur PD Apr 2001 ? What state ? When was ur app recvd in regional office ?
Mine is May 2001, non -rir and i'm still waiting

Hello Shalinilulla,
I am from DC, my case reached Regional on dec 2004 and response the 45 days letter on march 2005. My lawyer think that we should recieve the aprovval any moment.

 

[tickticktick]

Case Status TR

Hi shalinilulla -

I sent a request to h1b7yr and got the same response too -- Case Status "TR" .
My PD is Nov 2001 and non-RIR too.

Looks like its #4. But is there any way for us to know what it means in terms of answering the million $$ question.

May be they should call it the Labort Cert Lottery!

 

[Choclito]

I sent them an email this morning, I did not send it till today because I thought why abuse this privilege ..but now it is getting too much ..specially since I see people around me who have filed much later getting their approvals .. I got a reply too .. case status says TR ... don't know much about what that means and how long I have to wait !

Wich email adress ???