Ajay, I don't know why you are misguiding the CS victims.ajay_sanghvi said:I recently heard from someone that USCIS is treating all the 300-350 families as frauds and not as victims. I heard of a guy who received an inquiry on his applied I485 (this I485 was after the Cybersoftec rjected I485). In the RFE, USCIS has inquired on the rejected Cybersoftec's I485.
On inquiry with USCIS, he was told that USCIS considers him a fraud till the Cybersoftec case comes up for hearing. The judge will then decide whether all the 350 families are victims or frauds. If they are considered as frauds then they will be prosecuted too. They might have to go to jail and will definitely never receive a green card or US visa.
This bast*** has ruined a lot of lives really bad.
cyber.GC said:Ajay, I don't know why you are misguiding the CS victims.
I receantly seen a DOJ letter; which one of my friend received, who is also one of the victim. The letter said and confirmed that he is the victim, and what are his rights as a victim. DOJ also inform him to prepare the purticular list of the dues with CS to submit them if he has. As per the letter, DOJ keep posted him the case status and he also got the access of VNS site.
Stop this nonsense.
Cyber.GC
ajay_sanghvi said:CyberGC,
Please check your inbox.
cyber.GC said:Ajay, I don't know why you are misguiding the CS victims.
I receantly seen a DOJ letter; which one of my friend received, who is also one of the victim. The letter said and confirmed that he is the victim, and what are his rights as a victim. DOJ also inform him to prepare the purticular list of the dues with CS to submit them if he has. As per the letter, DOJ keep posted him the case status and he also got the access of VNS site.
Stop this nonsense.
Cyber.GC
unitednations said:DOJ=Department of Justice?
Or
DOL=Department of Labor?
The people who would be in trouble are the ones who received immigration benefits and are still benefiting from them (ie., they got greencard).
Greencard will be taken away in recission proceedings.
Now; once the immigration benefits are taken away you must ensure that you have another basis for staying here (some other compoanies h-1, some other companies 140/485).
At the worse case; people who worked with Cyber have shown their intention to work so there wouldn't be ANY problems for them.
People who bought the labor and didn't work for Cyber would have to prove they planned on working with him upon greencard approval (this is worse case which won't happen). The Government goes after the culprit who started it and makes an example of them. For individuals such as you they generally won't go after you because it would hamper future investigations in other companies since people wouldn't cooperate.
unitednations said:Come on; let's not get into individual situations.
Bottom line in my opinion:
People who worked have no problem in proving they had bona fide intentions.
People who didn't work can only rely on they had intent to work.
DOJ/USCIS are not interested or have the resources to go after individual candidates. If in the course of their investigation they found fake degrees, fake w2's (that you supplied) then that is where the trouble could be.
gc12gc said:I emailed DOL attorney and she replied back and said those letters are not from their office.. Looks like those are some other Agency !
ajay_sanghvi said:gc12gc,
The letter is not from DOL but from DOJ and I finally received the letter today.
A few lines from the letter ...
"Dear XYZ,
Your name was forwarded to our office by law enforcement as a victim (or potential victim) in the above mentioned criminal case. We will continue to provide you with updated scheduling and event information as the case proceeds through the criminal justice system."
The letter gives me access to the VNS (victim notification system) and also talks about my rights as a victim. It also contains the case number and court docket number.
It also says ...
"On June 19, 2006, defendant NARENDRA V MANDALAPA, pled guilty to the charges listed below. Any remaining counts will be disposed of at the time of sentencing. As a result of the guilty plea, there will be no trial involving this defendant.
Number of charges:1
Charge: Fraud and misuse of visas, permits, and other documents
Disposition: Guilty
The sentencing hearing for defendant(s) Narendra V Manadalapa, has been set for September 18, 2006, 2:00 PM."
It also says ...
"A United States Probation Officer prepares a report for the court and may contact you to discuss the impact the crime had on you financially, physically, and/or emotionally. If you are contacted, please make every effort to provide accurate and detailed information"
-Does this mean he is guilty on 1 count only?
-Are we officially classified as victims?
-What happens to us if we have been classified as victims ... meaning future green card application?
-What is the maximum sentence for this M*****F*****?
-Will we ever get our money back?
Any comments.
unitednations said:legally you could not backdate the contract and get monies to the new company for the time frame where contract between cybersoftec and vendor was in force.
What do you mean by this statement?unitednations said:Yes, it is CS obligation to pay.
H-1b violations for those people who were on H-1b would have different protection as DOL will go after nick personally.
unitednations said:Generally, a corporation is a separate legal entity and lawsuits/damages cannot be pierced through to the shareholder.
It is called "piercing the corporate veil".
However, there is possibility that Nick would have to pay the corporation liabilities of h-1b violations to the concerned people.
As a minimum; DOL/DOJ would go easier on him if he paid personally. If he wanted to stick to the story that it is company liability then they would go after him harder.
H-1b gives much more protection to employees then non h-1b people.
gc12gc said:I still didn't received letter from DOJ .. Every body received or still some people are waiting for that letter , like me ??