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waitingforins2

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Hi Guys,

I think we can find out the probability if we will be in name check.(I want to know if someone whose namecheck cleared fast find to the contrary).

Try the site
www.intelius.com or even yahoo people search.
Enter your name and see how many matches it finds.

I tried my name and last name..and I found 70 matches of people same name living all over US. I think there was no doubt I would have gotten stuck in name check. So all I can do is now wait for my name check to complete:(

Could you guys (who are waiting for name check and those who are already naturalized try their names and post following info)
NO of matches -
Time in namecheck

This way we can have some chances of finding probability of us getting stuck in name check.

Thanks in advance
 
waitingforins2 said:
Hi Guys,

I think we can find out the probability if we will be in name check.(I want to know if someone whose namecheck cleared fast find to the contrary).

Try the site
www.intelius.com or even yahoo people search.
Enter your name and see how many matches it finds.

I tried my name and last name..and I found 70 matches of people same name living all over US. I think there was no doubt I would have gotten stuck in name check. So all I can do is now wait for my name check to complete:(

Could you guys (who are waiting for name check and those who are already naturalized try their names and post following info)
NO of matches -
Time in namecheck

This way we can have some chances of finding probability of us getting stuck in name check.
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intellius and the FBI database have no correlation. Just because your name appears multiple times in intellius doesn't necessarily raise the chances your name will get stuck in name check. Considering that many applicants have common names and don't get stuck in name check is testament to this. There really is no way to find out the chances of you getting stuck in name check process unless you had previous knowledge of your entire FBI file.

Read about the name check process before making generalizations:

http://triceiver.com/FBI_Name_Check.aspx
 
My name was there once... and if this was the case then names like sanjay, rajiv should never pass the name check.
 
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damn that site can show income, all addresses and relatives info if we buy it... don't you think it should be illegal to do so without our consent?
 
bobsmyth cool down

Hi Bob,

I am not making generalizations.I just showed a probability .Please see I have used word probability again and again. If you do not have anything to contribute to this thread. Please move on.

Regards
 
Well name check has not much to do with common name, rather the risk profile of the person. It is a mistaken notion that people with common names get stuck. Yu, Smith, Chen, Singh, Jose, etc would be all stuck in name check by that theory. I believe FBI does age, nationality, sex profiling in addition to what ever they check. I have read reports of some who got stuck in name check who had very uncommon names but were from soviet republic countries or Russia.
 
waitingforins2 said:
Hi Bob,

I am not making generalizations.I just showed a probability .Please see I have used word probability again and again. If you do not have anything to contribute to this thread. Please move on.

Regards
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You made the statement that you think you can find the probability that someone will be caught in namecheck based on their name showing up in intellius. All I'm saying is that the occurrence of your name in intellius has nothing to do with a name check delay in the FBI database since they are in no ways related. In other words you're making a false correlation which just fans unnecessary worries for applicants reading your "simple test" thread.
 
If intellius shows someone with your or close name and close YOB got into trouble with law enforcement at any time, you can be rest assured you will be stuck. eg If your name was Keith Lay with YOB around 1948 to 1951 you would stuck because Ken Lay was an enron exec who was investigated by FBI with approxiamte DOB like yours and name 'similar' to yours. Is it fair that you pay for crimes of others ? Not sure but autorities seem to think its justified in public interest. Mostly Federal courts through various judgements in that past have leaned towards saying this is not right, so therefore if you are stucl in name check there is a good chance of winning in federal courts where winning means getting the court to order that your specific case be completed ahead of everyone else in that category.
 
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Bobsmyth said:
You made the statement that you think you can find the probability that someone will be caught in namecheck based on their name showing up in intellius. All I'm saying is that the occurrence of your name in intellius has nothing to do with a name check delay in the FBI database since they are in no ways related. In other words you're making a false correlation which just fans unnecessary worries for applicants reading your "simple test" thread.
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I think waitin is mixing the words probably and probability.
 
intellius is a commercial information gathering system and in no ways related to FBI criminal database. Considering that less than 1% of all name checks come up with hits that require further manual investigation, it would be false to correlate the number of name occurrences in intellius to the probability of your application being stuck in name check.
 
Well my name got 426 hits in all US, 221 in my state and 181 in my city, so I guess I'll be waiting like 8 years...well I'm already on 2. lets hope for the best.
 
waitingforins2 said:
Hi Guys,

I think we can find out the probability if we will be in name check.(I want to know if someone whose namecheck cleared fast find to the contrary).

Try the site
www.intelius.com or even yahoo people search.
Enter your name and see how many matches it finds.

I tried my name and last name..and I found 70 matches of people same name living all over US. I think there was no doubt I would have gotten stuck in name check. So all I can do is now wait for my name check to complete:(

Could you guys (who are waiting for name check and those who are already naturalized try their names and post following info)
NO of matches -
Time in namecheck

This way we can have some chances of finding probability of us getting stuck in name check.

Thanks in advance
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I am in deep trouble with this theory. Without my middle name entered, it got 303 match and with my middle name, it returned 104 results in entire US.
 
Wow ! That database is scary ! Without any additional input, it shows names of relatives and such. Isn't this some kind of invasion of privacy ?

I searched a little, but did not see any way they let you remove your information from their database if you want.
 
Unfortunately this database collects their information from public records. Every time you get a new cell phone plan or buy a home etc your information gets entered into public record which is accessible to everyone who wishes to find you. I know I find it scary too and not right, but what are you going to do?
 
sudipto said:
Wow ! That database is scary ! Without any additional input, it shows names of relatives and such. Isn't this some kind of invasion of privacy ?

I searched a little, but did not see any way they let you remove your information from their database if you want.
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They can't remove it because it's not really their database. They just query various sources and display the results to us. The sad and scary part is that some of the information can be downright wrong, depending on the accuracy of the source. Even worse is the fact that some credit reporting services often refuse to correct their records. There is no oversight and many people suffer for no fault of theirs.

We are forced to live with this side effect of technology and automation where accuracy and attention-to-detail sometimes go out the window.

OY
 
Bobsmyth said:
intellius is a commercial information gathering system and in no ways related to FBI criminal database. Considering that less than 1% of all name checks come up with hits that require further manual investigation, it would be false to correlate the number of name occurrences in intellius to the probability of your application being stuck in name check.
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What if you move on :D
Bobsmyth is right, FBI doesn't run the same thing. Plus in some cases they gather security check form your own country. I have a live case (friend of mine) she has been stuck in namecheck for two years and all they say each time she calls them is "We have send some security background check to your country and they have not turn in any documentation yet". I know this is partially BS but still I am sure it is sort of different.

On the other hand, this commercial website is giving some info. My name is probably some sort a unique name. When I try my name I get only myself in different address which I used to live and they are not all there. I entered my name and I got two results (two addresses of eight places that I used to live) so I say it is not accurate at all and I say that I was stuck in namecheck when I applied for my GreenCard.

Another thing is, FBI is not very sufficient anyway so no doubt that it can not be flawless.
 
waitingforins2 said:
Bob,

I hope you are right.

Regards
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waitingforins2: Your theory and suggestion do deserve attention.

None of us on here know the exact machanism of the name/background check anyway. If only some of the people whose name checks flew fast care to post their Intelius hits, we can have some data points. Same for the ones that seem to be stuck in the name check. This would require hundreds of data points to see some kind of trend, which will likely not happen on this board.

Even though FBI has its own database which is not the same as what Intelius uses, it's easy to see how there could be some sort of corelation between the number of Intelius hits and possible FBI hits - the key word being probability. Anyone who summarily pooh poohs your idea is being unreasonable.
 
ohyeah said:
They can't remove it because it's not really their database. They just query various sources and display the results to us. The sad and scary part is that some of the information can be downright wrong, depending on the accuracy of the source. Even worse is the fact that some credit reporting services often refuse to correct their records. There is no oversight and many people suffer for no fault of theirs.

We are forced to live with this side effect of technology and automation where accuracy and attention-to-detail sometimes go out the window.

OY
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How can they query into other databases if they are not given the rights... This site is illegal and I think it will shortlive.
 
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