Name check pending for 22 months!

so tired of waiting! i don't think it can be cleared in 2 yrs once the wait game begins. :eek: i know some people get name check cleared right away. lucky for them.
for me, it has been 20 months. i will give them 36 months. if still no response, i guess i will have to SUE!!
 
found an article in Siskind Susser Web site:

found an article in Siskind Susser Web site:
The ABC's of Immigration: Bringing Mandamus Suits Against the USCIS
by Greg Siskind

Nearly every person who has ever dealt with the USCIS knows that in some cases, the
agency simply fails to move forward with a case despite taking every conventional effort
possible. In these cases, there is ultimately only one action that the aggrieved party can
take to force the agency to act –– filing a lawsuit. This type of lawsuit is commonly known
as a "writ mandamus." A writ of mandamus is a form of civil action designed to compel a
government actor to perform a duty owed to the plaintiff. It is important to note that
mandamus is not used to force the USCIS to reach a favorable result, but only to take
action that it is legally obligated to take. It can result in a denial of the application.
Before filing the lawsuit, there are a number of steps that should be taken. This is so that
when the suit is filed, the plaintiff has clearly done everything they can, short of filing a
lawsuit, to resolve the problem. A plaintiff who appears in court without having attempted
to resolve the situation in other ways will not be particularly sympathetic, whereas one
who has will be.
The first step to take when processing on a case that has gone beyond the stated time is
to make inquiries with the USCIS. Members of the American Immigration Lawyers
Association have access to fax numbers that can be used to make these inquiries at the
USCIS Service Centers, as well as numbers for local USCIS offices that are not always
publicly available. AILA also has a liaison system that can be used to make inquiries. Under
AILA’s rules, several fax inquiries need to be made over a specific time period before a
liaison inquiry will be submitted to USCIS. While there are no requirements for inquiries at
local offices, faxing in an inquiry at least two times over a one to two month period is
advisable.
If no resolution is reached, the next step is to draw up the legal complaint that will be filed
in court. The suit will be filed in the federal court with jurisdiction over the petitioner or
applicant. There are a number of formal requirements for the complaint such as including a
statement that jurisdiction and venue are properly with the court. The lawsuit must also
lay out the facts of the case, including efforts that have been taken to resolve it. It is a
good idea to initially send copy of the complaint to the USCIS office handling the case,
along with a letter explaining the situation and noting that if the case is not resolved
within a certain period, generally 30 days, further action will be taken. This step will often
have the desired effect, if not producing a decision, of at least prompting the USCIS to
begin working on the matter. If the USCIS asks for additional evidence (which can
sometimes function as a delaying tactic) and still will not action after the requested
documentation is supplied, the mandamus process should be resumed.
If sending the complaint does not produce results, it should be rewritten to include the
latest efforts to resolve the case and sent to the USCIS again as well as to the appropriate
US Attorney. This is the stage at which most cases are resolved. The US Attorney,
understandably, does not want to spend time in court defending USCIS’ failure to take
action. The US Attorney often contacts the USCIS office and pressures them to act.
If, after a month, there is still no action on the case, the complaint should be updated
again and prepared for actual filing. Procedures vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but
the general process is the same. The complaint is taken to the clerk of court where it is
registered as filed. When filing a suit against the government, a copy of the complaint
must be sent to the government actor who has failed to act (the head of the USCIS office
involved), the proper US Attorney, and the US Attorney General.
Again, this action often has the effect of prompting the USCIS to take action. If not, the
parties proceed with the case. As in any federal case, the first step is a conference with the
judge assigned to the case, the plaintiff’s attorney, and the US Attorney representing the
government. At the conference, the judge makes efforts to help the parties resolve the
dispute. If this effort fails, the case proceeds to trial. Given the large caseload of federal
courts, this process can take many months. A few months after the trial, the judge issues
a decision. If the decision is favorable to the plaintiff, the decision will also include an order
compelling the USCIS to take action on the application. If the USCIS fails to act, officers of
the agency are subject to being held in contempt of court.
It is the rare case where there has been an excessive delay that does not result in a
favorable resolution at least at the trial stage of a mandamus case. But the good news is
that most of these cases can be resolved favorably without having to go to court at all.
 
The estimated cost

Their cost to file a law suit against USCIS is $3500 plus hourly charge if going to court, a little deep to me.
 
Three years!

I think I can beat anyone's record here as my husband's name check has been pending for over three years (since June'02, RD Feb'02). I am the primary applicant and was approved a year ago, but he's pending.

Nothing helps! We tried congressmen, senators and even a newspaper.
They all say the same - there is nothing you can do if it is considered to be a matter of national security.
BTW, your Chinese name doesn't matter. What matters is what you did in China when you lived there. Most likely during your college years in China you had to sign some low clearance papers to study in some technical field, served in their army or were a member of some youth Communist group. Other things may include your parents, who are the members of the party currently or are involved in some sensitive issues.
 
source of your info?

udacha6 said:
BTW, your Chinese name doesn't matter. What matters is what you did in China when you lived there. Most likely during your college years in China you had to sign some low clearance papers to study in some technical field, served in their army or were a member of some youth Communist group. Other things may include your parents, who are the members of the party currently or are involved in some sensitive issues.
Could you tell me how did you learnt that info (those factors that matters...)?

When I was in primary school, every student in the whole school is a member of SHAO XIAN DUI; when I was in middle school, every student in the whole school is a member of GONG QING TUAN (youth Communist group). It's not like in college, you have to explicitly apply for communist party (which I did not). I wonder if being a member of those youth Communist group really matters...
 
I don't believe either. But I heard if you get the degree from US school or you change your status like F1->H1, it may delay name check. A friend who came to US as H1 and file 485 at middle of 2004 got approved one month ago.

one140
 
udacha6 said:
I think I can beat anyone's record here as my husband's name check has been pending for over three years (since June'02, RD Feb'02). I am the primary applicant and was approved a year ago, but he's pending.

Nothing helps! We tried congressmen, senators and even a newspaper.
They all say the same - there is nothing you can do if it is considered to be a matter of national security.

>>>>It does not really matter what they said to you (especially the newspaper). If you file writ of mandamus, they will expedite name check.


>BTW, your Chinese name doesn't matter. What matters is >what you did in China when you lived there. Most likely >during your college years in China you had to sign some >low clearance papers to study in some technical field,


>>>Is that what they told you in the newspaper???
 
udacha6 said:
I think I can beat anyone's record here as my husband's name check has been pending for over three years (since June'02, RD Feb'02). I am the primary applicant and was approved a year ago, but he's pending.

Nothing helps! We tried congressmen, senators and even a newspaper.
They all say the same - there is nothing you can do if it is considered to be a matter of national security.
BTW, your Chinese name doesn't matter. What matters is what you did in China when you lived there. Most likely during your college years in China you had to sign some low clearance papers to study in some technical field, served in their army or were a member of some youth Communist group. Other things may include your parents, who are the members of the party currently or are involved in some sensitive issues.

You know, people like you are the worst one. You don't have a slight idea what is the namecheck procedure. And still you are spreading your absolutely ungrounded oppinions...How do you know all that? FBI NNCP division told you?
 
waiting forever

Hi Guys,

I'm waiting from January 2002 and nothing happened so far. I tried Senator and also they said me same thing. Just wait & watch.

Piyushind
 
in your case, if 3 yrs have passed without any answer, you should start to consider the option of lawsuit. worth a try. however if you are not in a hurry. just let it be. it's just a small pain in the b*tt, isn't it?
 
Mandamus Suits Against the USCIS

I got increasingly impatient with my name check, so I contact an attorney for an estimate and a few concerns, and would like to share with you.

"A mandamus can increase the risk of denial if there is a basis for denial. That is why we would want to review the case first.", that's from the attorney.

Cost estimate from that law firm is $3500 plus hourly if going to court. However, they said they "never had a case that goes all the way to trial". That means, the initial step of "legal complaints" letter from the attorney is powerful enough to get the USCIS and FBI moving.

When I ask for reference with successful experience, they wouldn't provide citing "ethical reasons", but claim "always successful". I personally think they are experienced handling these cases, but still prefer to hear some successful stories from their satisfying client first...

Belle is right, it is just a pain in the b*tt. Unless it brings me too much pain, I probably choose to wait a little longer, considering that a law suit can increase the risk of denial...

Good luck to us all,
 
Slt,

You should not insult people when you don't know their situation.

My husband's case had an IDENT (do you know what that is?) during the namecheck procedure and according to their own manual to clarify the IDENT they are supposed to find every source of information that created IDENT in the first place and re-review it. Sometimes the source may be paper-based and 10 years ago and located in a different country. Right now they can't clear my husband's case because they can't find some of the paperwork filed 8 years ago and the agent who filed it passed away. So there is a cause for concern. I found out it all from the senatorial inquiry. They would not have told me that directly. I filed three inquiries to Mr. Hardy, and unlike yours mine were delivered personally by the Senator's assitant and were numbered. It is even a public record now. Mr. Hardy replied to us saying that clearing IDENT case doesn't have any time limit in the US law and therefore any kind of Mandamus won't work as the federal employees are not really breaking any law. The paperwork relates to my husband's term of service in a foreign army.

So please be careful when you say "you are the worst one" next time.
 
The senator's assitant asked us to think of any reason why the namecheck would have an IDENT before filing a detailed inquiry and some of those that he offered as an example were former and present Com organizations (specially some leadership positions, unless you can prove that you joined them involuntarily), parents who have high security clearance in their countries or have high-ranked military positions etc, your own military history, highly secretive educational organizations (physics, engineering, space), arrest history (even as a minor) etc.
These are common grounds for denying even a tourist visa, let alone a permanent residenship.
 
udacha6 said:
Slt,

You should not insult people when you don't know their situation.

My husband's case had an IDENT (do you know what that is?) during the namecheck procedure and according to their own manual to clarify the IDENT they are supposed to find every source of information that created IDENT in the first place and re-review it. Sometimes the source may be paper-based and 10 years ago and located in a different country. Right now they can't clear my husband's case because they can't find some of the paperwork filed 8 years ago and the agent who filed it passed away. So there is a cause for concern. I found out it all from the senatorial inquiry. They would not have told me that directly. I filed three inquiries to Mr. Hardy, and unlike yours mine were delivered personally by the Senator's assitant and were numbered. It is even a public record now. Mr. Hardy replied to us saying that clearing IDENT case doesn't have any time limit in the US law and therefore any kind of Mandamus won't work as the federal employees are not really breaking any law. The paperwork relates to my husband's term of service in a foreign army.

So please be careful when you say "you are the worst one" next time.

Interesting details indeed....you are not the worst one, that i agree with. Thank you for sharing the data.

So that means all senatorial requests to NNCP office are useless, even if "delivered by the senatorial aides". that figures
 
udacha,

It is a really sad story about your husband's name check.
My name check took 907 days (from 12/29/02 to 06/23/05). I don't know why it was so slow, did I have IDENT or not. My parents had pretty high security clearance, and I signed some papers about secrecy during university years (physics), and was in army for one month (between 4th and 5th years of university).
You should keep in mind that no matter how much work fbi should do to finish your husband's name check, it is still doable and if they put some effort in it, they should be able to finish it faster than in 3 years.
The problem is to make them actually work on the case. I think that in my case 2 congressmen helped. I told the priest in our church about my problem with name check and he introduced me to another person in the church who was a good personal friend of the head of the local office of our congressman. So I went to the congressman office together with that person and the head of the office told me that he will pull some strings in Washington to actually make fbi work on my case.
Second: the president of my company is a personal friend of another congressman (not our local district). I asked the president to help and at their next golf game he asked that congressman to help. The office of that congressman contacted me 2 days later and I know that they did a lot of digging why my case was so slow and what fbi was actually doing.

I don't know which of 2 congressmen helped more (or helped at all). It is possible that all their efforts were fruitless and name check was just finished by its' natural course, but nevertheless, it is finished now.

I hope my experience will help you.
 
Dima,

I am the primary candidate and I am approved, so wherever I go I am told - relax and wait - your husband can stay here forever on EADs and APs - we have more important cases to work on.
The records that are missing is what exactly clearance he had during his college years (Moscow Bauman Tech University) and what exactly he did during his two-month army experience after which he was awarded his sr. lieutenant status in PVO. His last name is very uncommon and his educational records confirm his IDENT. We are told by the senators that the wait may be as long as another seven years to reach the 20-year limit after which he will be pardonded regardless of what took place.
 
I couldn't agree more with dima66a.

Look at that, my namecheck was submitted on Mar 2003. Now, after writing and writing and inquiring, I got an email from NNCP office in Jul 2005. What this email said was "you namecheck HAS BEEN assigned to an analyst to work on. we apologize for the delay".

So that means that FOR MORE THAN 2 YEARS, this namecheck was just collecting dust somewhere in the box. So much for security clearances and high-ranking military fathers....
 
udacha6 said:
Dima,

I am the primary candidate and I am approved, so wherever I go I am told - relax and wait - your husband can stay here forever on EADs and APs - we have more important cases to work on.
The records that are missing is what exactly clearance he had during his college years (Moscow Bauman Tech University) and what exactly he did during his two-month army experience after which he was awarded his sr. lieutenant status in PVO. His last name is very uncommon and his educational records confirm his IDENT. We are told by the senators that the wait may be as long as another seven years to reach the 20-year limit after which he will be pardonded regardless of what took place.

I apologize to you for my response. Looks like I'm majorly screwed now. I am the main applicant and have exactly the same track record as your husband.
 
Slt,

We were told that his case was assigned to an analyst in Jan'03!!!
Since then the case is constantly updated and investigated.
Moreover this whole thing created delays for all of our relatives in getting tourist visas and now their applications have to be cleared by US state dept (takes 3-6 months) before approval.
 
well

well that's more good news for today...what i don't understand then, dozen people from my class in exactly the same situation got their GC with no problem....well now i understand everything
 
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