N-400 might be denied,need more proofs!!!

[galina1982]

Thanks for your responses.. this forum is useful , i wish i knew about it before

i am not going to divorce, we went thru alot his drinking problem and lack of work.
I do worry because i am a person who worries about everything , but i'll try to do my best and think about what we can come up with.
we could open bank accounts again, insurances but i don't think they wil consider it because it was done after interview.

and just want to say that recent bills can't proof anything i have a friend who divorced but they still have bank accounts and bills still come in a mail even couple month after

 

[Jackolantern]

and just want to say that recent bills can't proof anything i have a friend who divorced but they still have bank accounts and bills still come in a mail even couple month after

Bills are not absolute proof, but that doesn't mean they are meaningless. They put that requirement in place to make things more difficult for people with fake marriages and bad marriages. Although it is possible for the fakers to share bills, leases, and so on, people don't like to get themselves tied up financially for a long time with a stranger, and people who married for bona fide reasons but are currently heading towards divorce also want to keep things separate, so the requirement for those joint bills weeds out the majority (but obviously not 100%) of the fake marriages and bad marriages.

As far as that divorced couple is concerned, the divorce would automatically disqualify them from the 3-year rule, regardless of their other bills.

The reason you got into trouble was that you weren't adequately prepared with evidence and explanations. If you dug up more documents before the interview, and gave the interviewer the explanations you gave us regarding why you don't keep accounts jointly, with supporting evidence like statements showing the bank overdrafts, you probably would have been OK.

Anyway, the worst case scenario here is that this citizenship application will be denied. Which isn't the end of the world, because you'll still keep your GC and be able to reapply in September without having to show a single document to "prove" your marriage except the marriage certificate (if they ask for it).

 

[galina1982]

couple that i mentioned are not applying for anything...

I did go to the bank to pull out our joint account that we had, they went up to 2008 account was probably closed early so they don't store this info anymore.
the same with car insurance (Geico)

 

[tobias2801]

Bills are not absolute proof, but that doesn't mean they are meaningless. They put that requirement in place to make things more difficult for people with fake marriages and bad marriages. Although it is possible for the fakers to share bills, leases, and so on, people don't like to get themselves tied up financially for a long time with a stranger, and people who married for bona fide reasons but are currently heading towards divorce also want to keep things separate, so the requirement for those joint bills weeds out the majority (but obviously not 100%) of the fake marriages and bad marriages.

As far as that divorced couple is concerned, the divorce would automatically disqualify them from the 3-year rule, regardless of their other bills.

The reason you got into trouble was that you weren't adequately prepared with evidence and explanations. If you dug up more documents before the interview, and gave the interviewer the explanations you gave us regarding why you don't keep accounts jointly, with supporting evidence like statements showing the bank overdrafts, you probably would have been OK.

Anyway, the worst case scenario here is that this citizenship application will be denied. Which isn't the end of the world, because you'll still keep your GC and be able to reapply in September without having to show a single document to "prove" your marriage except the marriage certificate (if they ask for it).

I was in a very similar situation in my interview yesterday. The IO said the burden of proof was on me to establish that I am currently married and living with my USC spouse as I applied based on that rule. He said that tax returns don't really count because people being separated may still file taxes together, the same applies in general for bills, accounts, lease docs. He therefore looked for a sufficient number of documents to prove my case.
For me, the magic number was 5 separate documents showing both my name and my spouses name: light bill, car insurance, phone bill, bank statement, and water bill.
I had brought a total of 700-800 pages of bank statements (6 years), various bills (1-3 years), insurance (2 years), deed on house, tax returns (5 years), ... I am very glad I was this prepared.
Once I provided all this I was approved.

 

[galina1982]

well you see i brought all my previous bills and statements that i file couple years ago for my 10 year GC, he did not want to see any of it

we don't file tax returns together, i fill my own every year, he had some problems with taxes before i guess he missed couple years, he did not want to pay it, he never told me the whole truth about what happen to his taxes before our marriage

 

[number30]

You can ask your Church to provide some kind bonafied letter.
Get a letter from his parents as well as your parents saying you both are married and living togther. Recent pictures of outings together

Bank accounts need not be joint accounts but indivisual accounts with same address can also do.

Some one even took a letter from known Policemen and Local Congressmen


Apply once you complete 5 years - 90 days. So you do not need any of the Documents.

 

[sreeleshk]

couple that i mentioned are not applying for anything...

I did go to the bank to pull out our joint account that we had, they went up to 2008 account was probably closed early so they don't store this info anymore.
the same with car insurance (Geico)

i had a need for my geico car's policy, i called in yesterday and they said that they would mail it in 5 business days, my car's being with their insurence since 2005. i am expecting it next week, they didnt tell me anything about any issue as its in the archives and older than 3 years

 

[Bobsmyth]

If you already had the qualifications for the 5-year option back when you submitted the application, you could request a switch to the 5-year option. But it looks like you applied too early to qualify to switch.

The OP already had her interview. I doubt USCIS would accept a switch request after interview had she been eligible under 5 year rule.

 

[Jackolantern]

The OP already had her interview. I doubt USCIS would accept a switch request after interview had she been eligible under 5 year rule.

Maybe, maybe not. It still would be worth a try even if it's just a 10% chance. But it's all moot because she doesn't qualify for the 5-year option.