Mr Khanna, why is there no legal support ( read litigation ) for us ?

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Sumanta

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Mr. Khanna,
This question is for you. Why isn't there no litigation ( since
there's so much talk on litigation ) for the hapless folks like us ?

You know people like us ( sept 2002, RD & ND and even earlier ) have been
left high and dry by this unscrupulous agency. Approvals are coming in
hordes for 2003 & 2004 filers. And its not that we are not ready to pay
attorney fees for someone who fights for us.

And on top, we get Status Enquiry Responses from USCIS saying how they
lack manpwer to handle cases, when again, there seems to be no lack
of manpower to handle 2003 & 2004 cases.

So what's our fault ? Why no litigation for people like us ? Or are we
responsible for some heinous crime so as to be left so high and dry ?
 
I think its a pity that people just don't get it. Mr Khanna has been working so hard to make the immigration process better and more streamlined for everyone and people post whatever comes to their mind. It is unfortunate that some cases getting approved faster than others and that just how USCIS is working to reduce their backlog or whatever. Please be appreciative and supportive of Mr Khanna by thinking twice before posting messages like this.

Thanks.
 
SUMANTA,

Aren't you the same guy who was planning a Hunger Strike? I thought you were going to rattle USCIS in Vermont and get you case approved. Did you give up on that idea? May be you should go to Vemront and stay there, instead of posting stupidity in these forums.
 
That's absolutely right

I am the same guy. Not any clone or shadow ...

U got that right ...

I will have to do what I have to do. At least I haven't rattled USCIS with
frivolous litigations !!!

And remember, I am talking and have talked of rattling;

this LITIGATION HAS ALREADY RATTLED USCIS.

To quote one of the pres Candidates, which is worse ??????????

What you consider stupid hardly matters...its time you get it !!!
 
Why don't you hire some other lawyer Mr moneybags and file a
frivolus lawsuit yourself, rather than sitting in a public forum hosted by a selfless lawyer
to help the immigrant community .
 
If you have a problem with USCIS, go deal with them directly. Why do you have to come here and start bad mouthing people?
 
Sumanta said:
And its not that we are not ready to pay
attorney fees for someone who fights for us.
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Then, hire Mr. Khanna as your attorney. Why posting FREE message here? :cool:
 
frivolous (frîv´e-les) adjective
1. Unworthy of serious attention; trivial: a frivolous novel.
2. Inappropriately silly: a frivolous purchase.
[Middle English, probably from Latin frìvolus, of little value, probably from friâre, to crumble.]
- friv´olously adverb
- friv´olousness noun

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Third Edition copyright © 1992 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Electronic version licensed from InfoSoft International, Inc. All rights reserved.
 
I thought you knew what frivolous meant

U sound so logical, reasonable and politically-correct ( as opposed
to my insanity, lack of any logic & reason ),
I am amazed you can't see the frivolousness here.

This litigation has only had the effect of an already crippled agency
by the name of USCIS trying to work to save their ass from the litigation.

And in an affort to do so, they are doing what I ( don't know about YOU
though ) would have done in the same situation. Start approving
2003 & 2004 cases so that you can say in a court that you are responding
with little delays.

Result ? Cases like mine with an RD & ND of sept 2002 can go to hell.

To me that's a frivolous litigation. Much the same way Medical malpractice
attorneys end up having a common person cough up more insurance
so that doctor's can get protection.

Not frivolous enough you would say ???
 
If you don't like what's going on in these forums, why don't you leave? Why don't you hire a lawyer and go after CIS yourself? Why waste your time here?
 
sumanta,

I agree that this seems to have happened as a result of the lawsuit, USCIS is trying to clean their image, get some figures to show how outstanding a turn around it has been in this past 6 months. However, this was not the intent of the lawsuit. I am a fellow Sept 02 filer waiting for ages to get my case through. But I feel the lawsuit was/is meant to do more than bring justice to cases filed between a certain period. and we all know that the suit may not help any of us at this time, it may only be work that is being done to pave the way for people behind us.

I am as frustrated as you, just hang in there.

Everyone else, I would say, be a little patient with each other. You see a sept 02 filer that is suffering everday due to this endless wait, he vents and what do we do? jump all over him for nothing. He addressed a question to Rajiv, Let Rajiv reply. I am sure Rajiv would have replied in a manner that would have satisfied Sumanta.

It is not easy congratulating your fellow beings on having been approved when you know you have been waiting for 20 months longer than that person. Initially its fine, after a while you start getting frustrated. So let's be a little patient with each other.. Sorry if I said anythign to offend anyone.
 
Unpopularilty doesn't scare me..

I will try all avenues. Well said. And points well taken.

Unpopularity..am not fazed by that; being popular isn't any relevant intent
here.

As of now, I am talking in this forum, and my message is

STOP THIS FRIVOLOUS LITIGATION. LET USCIS DO ITS JOB ! ITS
KILLING APPLICANTS' CASES AS MINE AND MANY OTHERS !
 
Sumanta said:
I will try all avenues. Well said. And points well taken.

Unpopularity..am not fazed by that; being popular isn't any relevant intent
here.

As of now, I am talking in this forum, and my message is

STOP THIS FRIVOLOUS LITIGATION. LET USCIS DO ITS JOB ! ITS
KILLING APPLICANTS' CASES AS MINE AND MANY OTHERS !
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Hey Sumanta,
Get a girl and a couple of beers and chill
 
So now USCIS is accountable ?

The thought may sound funny to you but I have strong reasons to think
that's whats going on here.

Maybe you are one of those 2003 / 2004 applicants, looking at glee at
this frivolousness and happy to conclude this as accountability !!!

Boy, if self-interest is such a blinding factor, well, I must say this
LITIGATION is SUPER-FRIVOLOUS !!!
 
Sumanta said:
Boy, if self-interest is such a blinding factor, well, I must say this
LITIGATION is SUPER-FRIVOLOUS !!!
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Well, you could not even explain what is your definition of frivolous. First of all how do you know or can you prove that whatever happening is due to Rajiv Khanna's lawsuit. Did USCIS ever told you thatUSCIS is doing it because Rajiv Khanna filed a lawsuit? How do you draw the conclusion? Please explain (if you can do that at all).
Even if for sake of argument I agree with you that this random approvals are the result of lawsuit, but still it does not explain why USCIS is processing unfair way. Unfair is unfair. Doing one wrong thing does not undo another wrong thing. USCIS is exactly doing that. Blaming Rajiv Khanna just a frivolous alligation by you.
 
Sumanta said:
This litigation has only had the effect of an already crippled agency
by the name of USCIS trying to work to save their ass from the litigation.
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That's what USCIS should do - trying to work to save ass. That is what every working people/company does- I do and you do too. USCIS should do it too. Yes, USCIS is a crippled agency. But that's because it's underfunded and badly mismanaged. So, next time call your congressman/senator. Lawsuit has nothing to do with it.
As I mentioned earlier wrong thing is always wrong. If a homeless person robs your wallet today you would let it happen just because he is "crippled"? How about that?


Sumanta said:
To me that's a frivolous litigation. Much the same way Medical malpractice
attorneys end up having a common person cough up more insurance
so that doctor's can get protection.
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Overdoing it always bad. Exploitation is bad. But not doing anything or not excercizing the law is bad too. There are many malpractice occur everyday in America. The fact is that number of true malpractices is lot higher than number frivolous lawsuits. It's crybaby's talk when someone claims that the insurance going significantly high due to this reason.
 
To all

I am an April 2002 filer and still waiting for approval. My second FP is expiring next month and my name check has been pending with the FBI since January 2003.

I can understand the frustration of Sumanta. After exhausting all avenues and no one seems to be able to help and no one really cares, Sumanta began to blame the litigation which I share with other posters is directed at the wrong target. But at the same time, I don't think people need to be too harsh because after all, this is his or her freedom of speech, no matter how inappropriate given what Rajiv has done for the community. IN addition, I don't think the comments are directed to Mr. Khana personally, but as an oberservation of the possible side effect of the litigation.

The question is what can people like us do under these circumstances, when the government basically says "screw you, we will take as much time as needed", and at the same time, our personal lives are hanging in limbo because of this stupid yet necessary piece of paper. Some people will say "hey, GC is a priviledge, not a right and if you don't like it, go back to where you come from." But the fact is that we came to this country with a high aspiration and expectation that we will be treated like a human being and in a fair and equitable manner, we came here in reliance on that expectation, even though this is not our country. Are we wrong in expecting such a treatment, after all of the preachings about human rights and equality?

Any thoughts?
 
Its all self - interest

Pralay,

Your self-interest ( probably you are looking with glee , being one of those
2003 / 2004 applicants, hoping your turn is round the corner ) guides
your logic in one direction, letting your benefit of doubt swerve in a certain way.

Exactly with me. If you notice people with Sept 2002 and even earlier dates
and their predicament, its safe enough to say that my ( being one of those
ill-fated ones ) self-interest tells me that its happening coz of this
FRIVOLOUS LAW SUIT.

Your arguments for/against are as strong/weak as mine.

Till such time, I would concur that prior to this litigation, while USCIS
was the same screwed agency, they never reacted by handling things
in a Last In First Out Queue approach. They were bad and slow and
yet, they did handle cases in a First In First Out way.
 
GCNYFEB04 said:
Some people will say "hey, GC is a priviledge, not a right and if you don't like it, go back to where you come from." But the fact is that we came to this country with a high aspiration and expectation that we will be treated like a human being and in a fair and equitable manner,
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That's the very reason Rajiv Khanna filed the lawsuit. Making immigrants waiting for years is unfair and unjust. Now USCIS found a way - devide and rule. Approve some and don't approved other. Let immigrants fight with each other - instead of every immigrant pointing finger at USCIS.
 
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