Litigation update this week
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Take a glance at dis link http://www.usgcls.com/faq/dv2011results.asp
In addition to that, approximately 6,000 entrants were selected & notified in Nigeria for DV 2011. I learnt there are approximately 2m entrants from Nigeria only in DV2012.
Using Dv2011 Nigerian selectees to justify Dv 2012, 6,000 selectees of 2Million Nigerian entrants is 0.30% chances per entrants. Not even up to 1%.
NB: there are MANY variables to be considered. This is just a layman’s approach.
Not all selectees will receive visas!!!!
Since 6,000 is selected from Nigeria & the lottery laws state that not more than 7% of the 50k visas will go to any given country. That means the maximum realisable visa for Nigeria is 7% of 50k Visas = 3,500visas & also we have to consider derivative visa (spouse & siblings) becos this sum up to the total visas.
I stand 2b b corrected anyway!! thanks
You have shown that you do not understand the law and how the law works.
1. Plaintiffs cant say anything in a summon.A summon is not used for that purpose. A summon is an official notice ISSUED by the court through a clerk to notify usually the defendant in a civil case that a lawsuit has been filed against him.
2. It is rather in the complaints that plaintiffs can say what has happened, which law applies to them and the relief that they is seeking.
3. The summons is usually SERVED with the complaints-- that's why we say summons and complaints. You can refer to FRCP rule 4, rule 8, and rule 12.
4. The defendant has a certain number of days to respond after being served with the summons and complaints-- that's why Dos does not have to provide their answers to the plaintiffs complaint immediately.
I am not a statistician or mathematician that's why I have stayed away from discussing random. I will learn from the statistician/ mathetician than to pretend I know.
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Mele i know of that link?but as of the chances of winning i think it is slim for Nigeria While the Oceania Region has the high chances of winning but slim chances of getting the visa.Asian has the high chances of getting the visa.Well according to the US consular manager a conferrence meeting that was held in Abuja last November that the US Government would target over 6000 Nigerians to win DV 2012.
What happens if what they are saying contradict common sense?
Elaborate more on that.
I have never been involved into litigation and really absolutely new to it. However, you statement is too strong to be correct.
Basically, when you are looking at the results of one selection you cannot say whether they are random or not. Results cannot be random or non-random.
Algorithm, what is the way you obtain selection, could be random or non-random. And the results could be called random if they are obtained by a single run of a random algorithm.
In order to figure out whether algorithm is random or not you need to apply the algorithm a lot of times (maybe a million or so; the more times you apply, the more presice is the answer) and measure how many times this particular entry was selected. So, you calculate the frequences of each entry to be selected. They you apply a statistical test to figure out whether the frequencies are close enough. If the test is satisfied, the algorithm is random. As I said before, the more times you run the algorithm upon testing, the more accurate the tolerance is,
This statistical test is what they were supposed to do on testing/debugging stage to double check the algorithm is random.
I hope you have not taken offense. Anyway, all the best in everything that you do.
Kwame O Vs. Raevsky in a long legal battle. July 12th Judge(s) will hammer d nail...this shd b a siesta period 4all...
Amongst other measures, I think this legal skirmish will pretty teach DOS a lesson to include a ‘Legal Notice & Disclaimer’ on its lottery webpage & applicants must click accept before they could proceeds with DV registration.
It could state that DOS can outright rescind any results they LATER found to be unfair & bias as a result of some unforeseen circumstances amongst others.
If that already exist prior to DV2012, i think this legal battle wudn’t go this far...All DOS will tell us is that we accepted d legal terms & disclaimer before proceeding with the registration. Thus, we r bonded by their TERMS...
Pessimistic about July 12th while Optimistic about July d 15th...Peace
Amongst other measures, I think this legal skirmish will pretty teach DOS a lesson to include a ‘Legal Notice & Disclaimer’ on its lottery webpage & applicants must click accept before they could proceeds with DV registration.
It could state that DOS can outright rescind any results they LATER found to be unfair & bias as a result of some unforeseen circumstances amongst others.
If that already exist prior to DV2012, i think this legal battle wudn’t go this far...All DOS will tell us is that we accepted d legal terms & disclaimer before proceeding with the registration. Thus, we r bonded by their TERMS...
Pessimistic about July 12th while Optimistic about July d 15th...Peace
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LoveAmerica
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Lol nothing will happen and nothing will happen with 98% of people on this forum when they realize they have not been selected in two weeks time. You're all wasting your time discussing this pointless topic on these forums, just sit and wait impatient people.
U2 is probably wasting ur time with d above point of urs which is basically pointless. Diz thread has been educative, informative, entertaining & full of enlightenment. No knowledge they say is lost. I don’t see anything wrong in discussing potential issues so to say .
Of course, hu cares if not selected!!No1 here is standing sure of his/herself being selected! Its just a hopeful thing....Life goes on....
U shd probably wish ur veryself (ur) 98% failure & not those on this forum.....spoiled brat
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LoveAmerica
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You are taking this DV lottery thing a bit too seriously. Discussing a case which is next to non existent of winning is also very pointless. Your point?
If this case does win (which is very highly unlikely) then Immigration for the United States is officially corrupt. Hello US Immigration, there are businesses on the E2 visa which have been here for generations who have been contributing thousands to the US economy and providing many jobs to US citizens for years yet all businesses under E2 have no route to a green card. Sort these people out first who ARE in America opposed to foreigners who aren't even in the US. Help people in our own country first before helping foreign nationals where all they most likely have is a measly high school diploma.
All applicants have hope.But wat LoveAmerica has said is true.
Thats why l cant blame the ex winners who are trying to be re-instated.But dont keep your faith on the system.You are a burden;an extra mouth to feed and you cant vote.
And for those of you who think that if the ex winners are not re instated you'l win.Brace yourselves for the shock of your lives.Nothing has changed,the chances are still very very low just like the previous years.
Reality check guys"lets call a spade a spade,and not a big spoon"
Thats why l cant blame the ex winners who are trying to be re-instated.But dont keep your faith on the system.You are a burden;an extra mouth to feed and you cant vote.
And for those of you who think that if the ex winners are not re instated you'l win.Brace yourselves for the shock of your lives.Nothing has changed,the chances are still very very low just like the previous years.
Reality check guys"lets call a spade a spade,and not a big spoon"
LoveAmerica in all your threads here i still can get your point?are you saying the house is disscusing pointless topics or issues?then why are you here?cos i can see that you dont have any business to do here.If you re not ready to be educative/infomative and entertain then get THEE behind this forum.We all are here to learn even though sometimes we argue blindly its part of learning.Sometimes If you dont argue and listen you cant learn.
ProudFrenchJap!
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In my opinion the law suit case is pretty pointless, I never heard somebody suing a government before for residency into a country; especially the United States. Why can't people wait until July 15th? It makes no sense why people can't wait and see the next results, I understand it was sad to hear it was cancelled but these things happen for a reason.
Foxygirl the Dv issue and those people with E2 visas are totaly different.Dv is for diversification E2 is for investment.You cant mix the two.
But the E2 visa guys should have a comprehensive system to make them residents for those who want to.Separate from the Dv.And this proves and tells you two things.Lack of intellegent guys running the system and lack of regard for foreigners,even those who are contributing to the U.S economy.
But the E2 visa guys should have a comprehensive system to make them residents for those who want to.Separate from the Dv.And this proves and tells you two things.Lack of intellegent guys running the system and lack of regard for foreigners,even those who are contributing to the U.S economy.
It happened 3 times (from my knowledge) & 2 time the plaintif won & the third one he lost (apparently a false signature)...
let just wait less than two weeks...
let just wait less than two weeks...
LoveAmerica let me comment on something you dont know?i am a Non Selectees while my two sisters are among the 22k and in all of these am no bias to anybody but believe only July 15.If you have been fellowing all my threads here you ll find out that i always advise this forum that we have to move on with ourlives cos there are more better things outthere.I still get more educative,informative,entertain and advises here in this forum cos we are here to learn.Mr white lawsuit against DOS cannot divide this house.We all wait the judge decision July 12 and July 15 the ultimate.
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