Left the USA to COP - chances of going back?

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Hello, my father asked for asylum for my family in 2004 and it was approved in 2006. The story is the following:
I am 19, my father is still in the USA but I returned to my country about a month ago. I had many personal and emotional problems and decided to go back to my country thinking it was going to be better, BIG MISTAKE, now I want to return to the USA and I know the situation is going to be difficult because I returned to my COP. My tourist Visa is expired, I have my A number and SSN, enrolled in a University in Florida and with my relatives still there. If I go back and explain my situation to the inmigration officer in Miami will I be able to enter the United States? I know it`s all subjective and there is no certain answer but I want to know what are my chances and if there is anything that my family in the USA could do to help (documents, letters, etc) Thank you for your help!
 
You need to apply for a RTD since you an asylee. Since RTD now require FP's, you need to have it done at the embassy. I dont know if you will be approved but our resident lawyer Thankful can answer in more details.
 
So I need to ask for an RTD in Venezuela ? The Ambassador was kicked out of the country so I don`t know if they are working. What a mistake but, oh well, just trying to see my chances of going back...If anyone has more information I will be thankful!
 
You can ask (actually beg is a better word) an overseas USCIS office to give you a refugee travel document. It is completely up to their discretion to issue one or not. You need to contact the USCIS office in Mexico City.
 
here is what the law says:

Discretionary authority to adjudicate an application from an alien not within the United States. As a matter of discretion, a district director having jurisdiction over a port-of-entry or a preinspection station where an alien is an applicant for admission, or an overseas district director having jurisdiction over the place where an alien is physically present, may accept and adjudicate an application for a refugee travel document from an alien who previously had been admitted to the United States as a refugee, or who previously had been granted asylum status in the United States, and who had departed from the United States without having applied for such refugee travel document, provided:


(A) The alien submits a Form I-131, Application for Travel Document, with the fee required under § 103.7(b)(1) of this chapter;


(B) The district director is satisfied that the alien did not intend to abandon his or her refugee status at the time of departure from the United States;


(C) The alien did not engage in any activities while outside the United States that would be inconsistent with continued refugee or asylee status; and


(D) The alien has been outside the United States for less than 1 year since his or her last departure.
 
Here was what the INS said about this situation:

Several commenters remarked favorably on the proposal to revise 8
CFR part 223 to allow refugees and asylees to apply for refugee travel
documents from outside the United States, after departure from the
United States, under certain very limited circumstances. The Department
proposed this revision with full awareness of the provision in section
208(c)(1) of the Act under which the Attorney General may allow the
alien to travel abroad ``with the prior consent of the Attorney
General.'' Despite the implied language of the statute, the Department
felt that an exception was warranted for those cases where the alien
innocently departed in ignorance of the requirement or, although aware
of the requirement, departed without applying for the document due to
an urgent humanitarian need, such as the impending death of a close
relative. It should be noted that the current regulations only require
that an application be filed before departure, not that the applicant
delay travel until after the application is approved and the document
is received. The Service has always provided the option of allowing the
alien to pick up the document overseas at an American consular post.
A few commenters suggested that the decision whether to accept such
applications not be left to the discretion of the Service. This change
has been made. However, the regulation does not remove the general
requirement that the application be filed before departure, nor does it
intend that the new procedure be viewed as a routine method of
obtaining the document. Although not specifically stated in the
regulation, the Department intends that if it is apparent that the
alien knew of the general requirement and simply chose to ignore it
(e.g., if the alien had previously been issued a refugee travel
document through this ``overseas procedure'' and there was no emergency
necessitating the more recent departure), the director may determine
that favorable exercise of discretionary authority is not warranted.
Accordingly, the regulation provides that the district director having
jurisdiction over the overseas location, or over the inspection
facility in the case of an alien at a port-of-entry, may deny the
application as a matter of discretion.
A few commenters suggested that there be no limit on how long after
departure the application may be filed. Others suggested that the time
limit be shortened from 1 year to 6 months to coincide with the 6 month
time frame in section 101(a)(13)(C) of the Act, which is the period
during which a lawful permanent resident who meets certain other
requirements is not considered to be an applicant for admission.
Another commenter stated that the validity of a refugee travel document
approved under this process should not be limited to 1 year from the
date of the alien's departure from the United States, so long as the
application was filed within 1 year of that departure. The 1-year
limitation was chosen because it is the maximum validity period for
which a document would have been approved had the alien complied with
the requirement of filing prior to departure. Allowing an applicant to
file from outside the United States more than 1 year after departure
would effectively authorize a longer validity period for the person who
failed to comply with the requirement than for one who did. This would
not be appropriate. Likewise, the 6-month period during which a lawful
permanent resident (who meets the other criteria in section 101(a)(13)
of the Act) is not deemed to be seeking admission is not analogous to
that of the stranded refugee, since the refugee is clearly deemed to be
seeking admission. Additionally, 6 months might be too short a time for
the alien who realizes his or her error to file the application and for
the Service to verify eligibility and approve that application. The
Department feels that in those cases where it is proper to allow an
exception from the requirement to file before departure, it is
appropriate that the document be valid for the same length of time as
for the person who complied with that requirement.
 
If you are serious about getting back in you will need a lawyer with experience dealing with the USCIS office in Mexico City.
 
Than you for the advice...Now what I don`t understand is that you mention Mexico City. Do you mean Caracas? I just sent an email to the Embassy here in Venezuela to know the process regarding my situation. Thank you for your help!
 
Than you for the advice...Now what I don`t understand is that you mention Mexico City. Do you mean Caracas? I just sent an email to the Embassy here in Venezuela to know the process regarding my situation. Thank you for your help!

Embassy does not have authority to issue refugee travel documents. Embassies are part of the state department. The law gives the authority to issue RTDs soley to the department of homeland security. The closest DHS office for you is the one in Mexico City. The embassy in Caracas cannot help you (if you run into a really nice person maybe they could help you get into touch with Mexico City but that was all they could do).
 
Embassy does not have authority to issue refugee travel documents. Embassies are part of the state department. The law gives the authority to issue RTDs soley to the department of homeland security. The closest DHS office for you is the one in Mexico City. The embassy in Caracas cannot help you (if you run into a really nice person maybe they could help you get into touch with Mexico City but that was all they could do).

Thanks...Now another thing, seeing that this process is very hard. Do I have a chance to apply for let`s say a student visa? I mean will my previous status as an asylee cut any chances of me getting a student visa?
 
Asylees are deemed to have abandoned their cases if they leave the country without any advance parole or travel document especially if they went back to the country they fled from. I'm sorry to say but you shot yourself in the foot by going back to Venezuela.
You can try the student visa route and see what they say. Good luck!
 
yes it will.

This news is devasting to me. My son who had AS07 status went back to COP 3 years ago. Next year he is hopefully graduating from the University and I was thinking about applying for MA for him here and hoping he could get a student visa. He want to return back after that. So, you are saying, that there is zero chance for him to continue his education here?
 
This news is devasting to me. My son who had AS07 status went back to COP 3 years ago. Next year he is hopefully graduating from the University and I was thinking about applying for MA for him here and hoping he could get a student visa. He want to return back after that. So, you are saying, that there is zero chance for him to continue his education here?

not zero chance. he has a shot. He can say that his previous departure from the U.S. shows that he is likely to leave again when he graduates. But the officer is not likely to buy it.

good luck.
 
not zero chance. he has a shot. He can say that his previous departure from the U.S. shows that he is likely to leave again when he graduates. But the officer is not likely to buy it.

good luck.

Would the law be more lenient to derivate asylees? Both of the cases discussed here seem to refer to derivative asylees...
 
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