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Journalist wants to interview DV winners, based in New York

Is that about most people being of immigrant ancestry in the US? if so where is the correlation, especially when B.Simon narrows it down to 1st generation immigrants rocking the same boat that brought them to the shore?
 
I didn't mention anything about first generation so not answering that.

The rest is pretty clear. If most of the population is of immigrant ancestry (just 1% are full blooded Native American according to the stats) it follows quite logically that the anti-immigrant brigade are composed largely of those of immigrant ancestry. So "there" is your correlation. (Or to quote sm1smlm: for sheesh. Or to repeat my earlier lament, where is a :facepalm: )
 
SusieQQQ said:
I didn't mention anything about first generation so not answering that.

The rest is pretty clear. If most of the population is of immigrant ancestry (just 1% are full blooded Native American according to the stats) it follows quite logically that the anti-immigrant brigade are composed largely of those of immigrant ancestry. So "there" is your correlation. (Or to quote sm1smlm: for sheesh. Or to repeat my earlier lament, where is a :facepalm: )
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SusieQQQ said:
I didn't mention anything about first generation so not answering that.

The rest is pretty clear. If most of the population is of immigrant ancestry (just 1% are full blooded Native American according to the stats) it follows quite logically that the anti-immigrant brigade are composed largely of those of immigrant ancestry. So "there" is your correlation. (Or to quote sm1smlm: for sheesh. Or to repeat my earlier lament, where is a :facepalm: )
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Here, you can borrow this

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Just as an update I emailed the journo and mentioned the concern about "slant". This was the response - which to me sounds as if she would be fair - supportive.


"Thanks for your reply. Well, I have to say that as I'm still researching the story, I am not entirely sure how I will go about doing it. I should also mention that this is somewhat of a personal interest story for me. However, I always aim to not have a 'slant.' My hope is to take a larger look at the program and where it sits in the broader immigration debate. My motivation for speaking with the winners is to provide narrative to humanize a "program." What kinds of people win the lottery, why do they enter it, what is the advantage of such a program etc.? What would we lose if they were to get rid of it?

Just a note, if it's helpful: I myself am here on a temporary visa and just entered the lottery, so that's how I first thought of researching this. :)

Hope this is helpful? I'd be happy to answer any further questions, and speak with your contacts directly as well. "
 
Hopefully you've pointed her towards the data on education level Etc of DV winners then :)

Personally as some may know that while I am happy I won I dont believe DV is as good as a skills based system. However in the context of US policy where the number of DVs is a drop in the IV ocean there are far more significant parts of policy to overhaul.

You could always suggest she take a trip to the west coast for some interviews, or uses Skype ;)
 
SusieQQQ said:
I didn't mention anything about first generation so not answering that.

The rest is pretty clear. If most of the population is of immigrant ancestry (just 1% are full blooded Native American according to the stats) it follows quite logically that the anti-immigrant brigade are composed largely of those of immigrant ancestry. So "there" is your correlation. (Or to quote sm1smlm: for sheesh. Or to repeat my earlier lament, where is a :facepalm: )
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Migration of humanity began with its creation.If we are looking at eons ago since then , aren't we all immigrants?
 
SusieQQQ said:
Hopefully you've pointed her towards the data on education level Etc of DV winners then :)

Personally as some may know that while I am happy I won I dont believe DV is as good as a skills based system. However in the context of US policy where the number of DVs is a drop in the IV ocean there are far more significant parts of policy to overhaul.

You could always suggest she take a trip to the west coast for some interviews, or uses Skype ;)
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My take on level of education requirement is that any beneficiary has the potential to dream and become.
The skill based system has the potential to create a super society. Think of world of such people only!
If you keenly look at any high knowledge economy- west coast for instance, there has to be an inlet for support workers, somehow.
 
Of course, but it's generally easy to home-grow those support workers too, and if you look at the US unemployment rate data broken down by level of education, the highest levels are those with no high school or only high school, plenty of supply there, while at the degreed end the job market is actually very tight.
See here http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm

If you are familiar with growth theory you will know that long run growth is determined by a combination of a growing population and growing the skills base of the population. This is why I said what I did. But again, to point out that DV is a drop in the ocean, 50000 visas a year vs the one million or so other ones which are mostly family based ones. And as those in general have a lower average education level than DV, there is also plenty of scope for importing "support staff” in addition to those homegrown from family based visas... Though this is I think is the area that needs most overhaul because of its size.
 
SusieQQQ said:
Of course, but it's generally easy to home-grow those support workers too, and if you look at the US unemployment rate data broken down by level of education, the highest levels are those with no high school or only high school, plenty of supply there, while at the degreed end the job market is actually very tight.
See here http://www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm

If you are familiar with growth theory you will know that long run growth is determined by a combination of a growing population and growing the skills base of the population. This is why I said what I did. But again, to point out that DV is a drop in the ocean, 50000 visas a year vs the one million or so other ones which are mostly family based ones. And as those in general have a lower average education level than DV, there is also plenty of scope for importing "support staff” in addition to those homegrown from family based visas... Though this is I think is the area that needs most overhaul because of its size.
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Now i begin to see t what you meant, not dv per se but immigration and the economic fabric of the society while i was on the dv immigrants alone who i think go on to become highly skilled workers or remain as support workers. I am not in position of knowledge to comment on the economic impact, including its growth, of family sponsored immigrants.
You could attribute unemployment in an economy that outsources jobs abroad to several factors and that is another debate. I read somewhere that Africa born immigrants ( i think 1st and 2nd generations of immigration is quoted in this study) in usa have higher educational qualifications than the the national average--http://mwakilishi.com/content/articles/2014/10/25/census-foreign-born-africans-most-educated-immigrants-in-the-us.html
 
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