interview experience - mentioned citation and mistake on the form
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If I were you I would consult with a good attorney...before taking any action....$150-200 could buy you a piece of mind.
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I have few questions on filling up N400. I have 2 citations on traffic ticket. another one on non-payment of fare. This happened when I went to NY train station,due to unfamilar to this station, by mistake entered in "exit" way.. Immediately, railway police asked to stop and given me a citation for " non-payment of fare". I paid $60 at NYPD court. With this background, I am not sure, which one to say "yes" / "No" in Part-10, Sec-D - questions 15 to 21. ( of N400)
I checked "yes" on 16. Not sure, if I need to check for 17 and 18. Would appreciate sharing your experience, on how to fill up these. I have listed all 3 in below table with date and citation info,
Also, will it any way constitute on my moral character issue.
Thanks,
I checked "yes" on 16. Not sure, if I need to check for 17 and 18. Would appreciate sharing your experience, on how to fill up these. I have listed all 3 in below table with date and citation info,
Also, will it any way constitute on my moral character issue.
Thanks,
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If you don't know the exact date, put in the month/year and if you aren't sure of that as well, put in just the year. I did that myself and didn't have any problems. Take a DMV record indicating that there are no outstanding tickets with you just in case you get a picky IO. (Technically this isn't supposed to matter, but do you really want to make a principled stand on this issue)
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It would not cause any issue. But If I were to pick an issue, I would say inconsistency between N400 and I485 is an issue if the IO insiste that you hide a material fact when
submitting I485 even though I485 would have been approved anyway even if you had disclosed it.
But as long as it does not lead to as far as the IO accuse you of lying on I485, then it should not be a problem. There are reports in the internet before some
did not disclose a matter on I485 but disclosed it on N400 (An immigratn from East Germany did not mention he once was a communist party memeber before Berlin Wall fell
) and gave an explanation then it went ahead
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I think it also depends if OP is (or was) a repeated offender...did not we have a case with cell phone tickets ..wheher IO challanged OP's good moral character....issues. overall, i agree that this should not a big deal unless IO request disposition docs/proof of payment....or if USCIS obtained /received driver records/-report. My 2 cents...
The basic point of requesting dislosure of traffic tickets is they look for serious vioations like DUI etc. That is why there used to be "excluding traffic violation clause before on N400.
But that exclusion clause cause a problem because even DUI offenders can use that clause not to disclose and if caught argue they just follow the instruction. So the USCIS
decide to drop that clause and examine themselves what is serious and what is not. Then anyone who does not disclose traffic violations will have no more
excuse and the USCIS will have the pwoere to take some action (denial, denatualization ectc). But they won't bother too much even if they catch anyone not disclosing an ordinary traffic ticket
but USCIS cover themselves well if they want to do that to people who have more serious traffic violations like DUI, not paying ticket at all etc
But that exclusion clause cause a problem because even DUI offenders can use that clause not to disclose and if caught argue they just follow the instruction. So the USCIS
decide to drop that clause and examine themselves what is serious and what is not. Then anyone who does not disclose traffic violations will have no more
excuse and the USCIS will have the pwoere to take some action (denial, denatualization ectc). But they won't bother too much even if they catch anyone not disclosing an ordinary traffic ticket
but USCIS cover themselves well if they want to do that to people who have more serious traffic violations like DUI, not paying ticket at all etc
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as long as there is no arrest or detention been made during your citation and penalty is under $500 you can answer no on question 16 but u can disclose this during your interview if IO brought it up , just bring proof, what they are focusing at is the questions 22 to 24 cause this are the basis of lack of good moral character, just read uscis m-476 page 25 and you didn't do any serious crime you are good to go..just my opinion
as long as there is no arrest or detention been made during your citation and penalty is under $500 you can answer no on question 16 but u can disclose this during your interview if IO brought it up , just bring proof, what they are focusing at is the questions 22 to 24 cause this are the basis of lack of good moral character, just read uscis m-476 page 25 and you didn't do any serious crime you are good to go..just my opinion
to be clear, m-476 page 25 does not tell you not to disclose the traffic accidents or citations in the application, it just says that you do not need a documentation unless the accident is alcohol related or for drug related..
To be more accurate, it is not about accidents but about traffic violations for which you have been arrested, cited, detained, charged, convicted, fined, sentenced.
If it is just accidents, then it is irrelevant to N400 of course, if accidents are alcohol or drug related, it is not unlikely the police still just let you go and if the police really let
you go you shoudl still say Yes to the question "Have you ever commited a crime or offense for which you were not arrested?" but I doubt anyone is that stupidly honest