India Dual Citizenship Mega Thread (Merged)
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bubbette said:
I knew that it would take a long time for them to finalize/implement the OIC scheme...it is good that I have a PIO card now...Maybe they are looking for some funding (and/or bribe) to get the OIC paperwork moving forward.
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Thursday, April 28, 2005
Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs
OVERSEAS INDIAN CITIZENSHIP
17:4 IST
The Minister of State (Independent charge) for Overseas Indian Affairs, Shri Jagdish Tytler told the Rajya Sabha today that the Citizenship Act, 1955 was amended in 2003 to provide for registration of Persons of Indian Origin from 16 specified countries who fulfill specified criteria as Overseas Citizens of India. These countries are: Australia, Canada, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Netherlands, New Zealand, Portugal, Republic of Cyprus, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom and United States of America.
The Minister further told that the Ministry of Home Affairs has received nearly 2000 applications from the concerned Missions/Posts. However, the application form and the procedure for the Overseas Indian Citizenship Certificate are being revised/simplified by the Ministry of Home Affairs. Hence it has been decided to put the scheme on hold to enable all the applicants to avail of the revised application form and the simplified procedure.
This information was given by Shri Tytler in reply to a question by Sh. Santosh Bagrodia, Sh. R.K. Anand & Sh. Harish Rawat.
AK/SK/JA
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Got this off the Press bureau's website (http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=8872)
2000 Applications ???? Wonder where they got so many from considering that in the US and Even in India itself they were not accepting any applications (I know this from personal experience).
They have been "simplifying" the procedure for 4 months now...How long would it take,i wonder.......
Snap Poll:
How many people think Overseas Indian Citizenship will start ......
a)in 2020 (with the rest of India's progress courtesy Prez Kalam)?
b)after the next government rolls in, a new minister is appointed and he actually does some work (around 2015) ?
c)Ever at all ?
Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs
OVERSEAS INDIAN CITIZENSHIP
17:4 IST
The Minister of State (Independent charge) for Overseas Indian Affairs, Shri Jagdish Tytler told the Rajya Sabha today that the Citizenship Act, 1955 was amended in 2003 to provide for registration of Persons of Indian Origin from 16 specified countries who fulfill specified criteria as Overseas Citizens of India. These countries are: Australia, Canada, Finland, France, Greece, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Netherlands, New Zealand, Portugal, Republic of Cyprus, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom and United States of America.
The Minister further told that the Ministry of Home Affairs has received nearly 2000 applications from the concerned Missions/Posts. However, the application form and the procedure for the Overseas Indian Citizenship Certificate are being revised/simplified by the Ministry of Home Affairs. Hence it has been decided to put the scheme on hold to enable all the applicants to avail of the revised application form and the simplified procedure.
This information was given by Shri Tytler in reply to a question by Sh. Santosh Bagrodia, Sh. R.K. Anand & Sh. Harish Rawat.
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Got this off the Press bureau's website (http://pib.nic.in/release/release.asp?relid=8872)
2000 Applications ???? Wonder where they got so many from considering that in the US and Even in India itself they were not accepting any applications (I know this from personal experience).
They have been "simplifying" the procedure for 4 months now...How long would it take,i wonder.......
Snap Poll:
How many people think Overseas Indian Citizenship will start ......
a)in 2020 (with the rest of India's progress courtesy Prez Kalam)?
b)after the next government rolls in, a new minister is appointed and he actually does some work (around 2015) ?
c)Ever at all ?
While i congratulate fitness99 on getting the PIO card i totally dont agree with it, specially because a PIO card has limited validity and any stay above 180 days requires registration.And PIO's are not legible for automatic conversion to OIC's.And they both cost nearly the same
I personally will wait for an OIC.Till then multiple entry visas will suffice.
I personally will wait for an OIC.Till then multiple entry visas will suffice.
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I agree. 10-yr multiple entry visa is more cost effective. PIO is better for employment, education, and puschasing real-estate in India. If those are not the factors, it's better to get a 10-yr multiple entry visa and hope that Indian bureaucrats will wake up and eventually "simplify the procedures for OIC", really? You just hope that it gets done by the time your 10-yr multiple entry visa is up for renewal!
Do anyone know about this foreign registration thing. where should we register. i am planning to stay in india for over 6 months. i could not find any info. as i am not going to be in any metros i was wondering if it can be done in local police station and will they check whether we registered or not when we r leaving india. any info is appreciated.
thanks
thanks
Check this out:vlmeda said:
http://immigrationindia.nic.in/registration_requirements.htm
http://immigrationindia.nic.in/
And, yes, there are incidents where I have heard that they check it while you leave the country after staying for more that 180 days. I'd not take chance if I were you
FRRO Registration
CONSULATE GENERAL OF INDIA
SAN FRANCISCO
Press Release
Last Updated: March 21, 2002
Revised Registration Requirements For Visitors to India
"In supersession of all previous instructions regarding registration formalities to be adhered to by foreigners visiting India on long term visa, the following consolidated and updated instructions are issued:
1. All foreigners including foreigners of Indian origin visiting India
on long term (more than 180 days) 'Student Visa' (including those who
come for study of yoga/vedic culture/India system of dance and music), 'Research Visa', 'Employment Visa' and 'Missionary Visa' will be required to get themselves registered with the concerned Foreigners' Registration Officer having jurisdiction in the place where the foreigner intends to stay within 14 days of his/her arrival.
Such types of visas will be stamped "Registration required within 14 days of arrival in India"
2. Foreigners visiting India on other categories of long term visa, including 'Business Visa' would not require registration with the concerned Foreigners' Registration Officer, provided duration of his/her stay does not exceed 180 days on any single visit. In case the foreigner intends to stay for more than 180 days on a single visit, he should get himself registered with the concerned Foreigners' Registration Officer, well before the expiry of 180 days.
Such types of visas will be stamped "Registration Not Required, If Continuous Stay On a Single Visit Does Not Exceed 180 Days"
3. Please note these instructions would not apply to Pakistani,
Bangladeshi and Afghan nationals and the existing requirement of
registration for them would continue i.e. Pakistani nationals would
require to get themselves registered within 24 hours and Afghan
nationals within 7 days of arrival. For Bangladesh nationals also, the
requirement of registration would be governed as per the Indo-Bangladesh
Agreement.
Check-List For Registration Formalities
1. List of documents which are required at the time of registration with the Foreigner Registration Officers in India. This registration is essential for all foreigners having visa for period exceeding 180 days except the exempted categories and should be done within 14 days of first arrival at the nearest office of the Foreigners Registration Officer.
Photocopy of the passport and initial visa.
Four photographs of the applicant.
Details of residence in India.
HIV test report from one of the WHO recognized institutions from people the age group of 15 to 60 years, if the foreigner is visiting India on visa for more than one year.
Copy of the marriage certificate in case of those seeking extension of stay on grounds of being spouse of an Indian National.
Bonafide certificate from the University / College / Institution in case of Student visa. Accreditation certificate from the Press Information Bureau in case of Journalist visa.
Approval of the Department of Company Affairs in the case of Board level appointments in Public Limited Companies.
Copy of the approval from Government of India in case of joint venture or collaboration (in duplicate).
Copy of permission from the RBI in case of business/joint venture, etc.Terms and conditions of appointment and copy of contract or agreement, in case of Employment visa.
Undertaking from the concerned Indian company on the following lines in case of Employment/Business visa :-
UNDERTAKING
We take full responsibility for the activities and conduct of Mr/Miss/Mrs.______________________ national of______________ during his/her stay in India. If anything adverse comes to notice during this period, we undertake to repatriate him/her on our cost.
________________________
Signature of competent authority
Date:
Seal:
2) Addresses of Registration Officers
i) FRRO,
Hans Bhawan,
Bahadurshah Zafar Marg,
ITO, New Delhi
Tel: 011-331-9489
ii) FRRO,
Tata Press Building
2nd Floor, 414 S.V. Marg,
Mumbai,
Tel: 022-262-1169
iii) FRRO,
237, AJC Bose Road,
Calcutta,
Tel: 033-247-0549
iv) CHIO,
Shastri Bhawan Annexe,
26, Haddow Rd.,
Chennai
Tel: 044-827-7036
At other places, the Superintendents of Police of the Districts are Foreigners Registration Officers.
3) Certificates of Registration will be issued by the Registration officers. The foreigners should surrender their certificates of registration to the Registration Officer of the place where they are registered or of the place from where they intend to depart or to the Immigration Officer at the port/check post of exit from India. If the certificate is surrendered to other than the Immigration Officer at the port/check post of exit, the foreigners should produce the receipt indicating such surrender of the document to the Immigration Officer at the port/check post of exit.
4) Registration is required to be done only once during the validity of a visa irrespective of the number of times the foreigner leaves/ re-enters India on multi-entry facility.
5) Foreigners can visit Restricted/Protected Areas only after getting a valid permit as visa alone is not enough to visit such places.
6) Foreigners coming from or through yellow fever countries must come with valid vaccination certificate.
7) On arrival/departure, foreigners should fill up the Dismbar-kation /Embarkation cards.
CAUTION
The Indian Wildlife (Protection) Act bans all forms of wildlife trade. Violations of the provisions of the Act are punishable with heavy fines and imprisonment. Foreigners are therefore, advised not to buy any wildlife or wildlife products or derivatives - specially ivory articles, fur and skin articles derived from wild animals such as Shahtoosh.
BEWARE
Foreigners should not buy, sell or use psycho-tropic drugs or any other narcotic substances while in India, as their purchase, sale or possession is a cognisable offence punishable by imprisonment.
BACK
vlmeda said:
CONSULATE GENERAL OF INDIA
SAN FRANCISCO
Press Release
Last Updated: March 21, 2002
Revised Registration Requirements For Visitors to India
"In supersession of all previous instructions regarding registration formalities to be adhered to by foreigners visiting India on long term visa, the following consolidated and updated instructions are issued:
1. All foreigners including foreigners of Indian origin visiting India
on long term (more than 180 days) 'Student Visa' (including those who
come for study of yoga/vedic culture/India system of dance and music), 'Research Visa', 'Employment Visa' and 'Missionary Visa' will be required to get themselves registered with the concerned Foreigners' Registration Officer having jurisdiction in the place where the foreigner intends to stay within 14 days of his/her arrival.
Such types of visas will be stamped "Registration required within 14 days of arrival in India"
2. Foreigners visiting India on other categories of long term visa, including 'Business Visa' would not require registration with the concerned Foreigners' Registration Officer, provided duration of his/her stay does not exceed 180 days on any single visit. In case the foreigner intends to stay for more than 180 days on a single visit, he should get himself registered with the concerned Foreigners' Registration Officer, well before the expiry of 180 days.
Such types of visas will be stamped "Registration Not Required, If Continuous Stay On a Single Visit Does Not Exceed 180 Days"
3. Please note these instructions would not apply to Pakistani,
Bangladeshi and Afghan nationals and the existing requirement of
registration for them would continue i.e. Pakistani nationals would
require to get themselves registered within 24 hours and Afghan
nationals within 7 days of arrival. For Bangladesh nationals also, the
requirement of registration would be governed as per the Indo-Bangladesh
Agreement.
Check-List For Registration Formalities
1. List of documents which are required at the time of registration with the Foreigner Registration Officers in India. This registration is essential for all foreigners having visa for period exceeding 180 days except the exempted categories and should be done within 14 days of first arrival at the nearest office of the Foreigners Registration Officer.
Photocopy of the passport and initial visa.
Four photographs of the applicant.
Details of residence in India.
HIV test report from one of the WHO recognized institutions from people the age group of 15 to 60 years, if the foreigner is visiting India on visa for more than one year.
Copy of the marriage certificate in case of those seeking extension of stay on grounds of being spouse of an Indian National.
Bonafide certificate from the University / College / Institution in case of Student visa. Accreditation certificate from the Press Information Bureau in case of Journalist visa.
Approval of the Department of Company Affairs in the case of Board level appointments in Public Limited Companies.
Copy of the approval from Government of India in case of joint venture or collaboration (in duplicate).
Copy of permission from the RBI in case of business/joint venture, etc.Terms and conditions of appointment and copy of contract or agreement, in case of Employment visa.
Undertaking from the concerned Indian company on the following lines in case of Employment/Business visa :-
UNDERTAKING
We take full responsibility for the activities and conduct of Mr/Miss/Mrs.______________________ national of______________ during his/her stay in India. If anything adverse comes to notice during this period, we undertake to repatriate him/her on our cost.
________________________
Signature of competent authority
Date:
Seal:
2) Addresses of Registration Officers
i) FRRO,
Hans Bhawan,
Bahadurshah Zafar Marg,
ITO, New Delhi
Tel: 011-331-9489
ii) FRRO,
Tata Press Building
2nd Floor, 414 S.V. Marg,
Mumbai,
Tel: 022-262-1169
iii) FRRO,
237, AJC Bose Road,
Calcutta,
Tel: 033-247-0549
iv) CHIO,
Shastri Bhawan Annexe,
26, Haddow Rd.,
Chennai
Tel: 044-827-7036
At other places, the Superintendents of Police of the Districts are Foreigners Registration Officers.
3) Certificates of Registration will be issued by the Registration officers. The foreigners should surrender their certificates of registration to the Registration Officer of the place where they are registered or of the place from where they intend to depart or to the Immigration Officer at the port/check post of exit from India. If the certificate is surrendered to other than the Immigration Officer at the port/check post of exit, the foreigners should produce the receipt indicating such surrender of the document to the Immigration Officer at the port/check post of exit.
4) Registration is required to be done only once during the validity of a visa irrespective of the number of times the foreigner leaves/ re-enters India on multi-entry facility.
5) Foreigners can visit Restricted/Protected Areas only after getting a valid permit as visa alone is not enough to visit such places.
6) Foreigners coming from or through yellow fever countries must come with valid vaccination certificate.
7) On arrival/departure, foreigners should fill up the Dismbar-kation /Embarkation cards.
CAUTION
The Indian Wildlife (Protection) Act bans all forms of wildlife trade. Violations of the provisions of the Act are punishable with heavy fines and imprisonment. Foreigners are therefore, advised not to buy any wildlife or wildlife products or derivatives - specially ivory articles, fur and skin articles derived from wild animals such as Shahtoosh.
BEWARE
Foreigners should not buy, sell or use psycho-tropic drugs or any other narcotic substances while in India, as their purchase, sale or possession is a cognisable offence punishable by imprisonment.
BACK
Back to the issue of OIC's here:
http://indiamonitor.com/news/readNews.jsp?ni=7082
A glimmer of hope for some,a notice of another significant delay for others
Take your pick ! ! !
http://indiamonitor.com/news/readNews.jsp?ni=7082
A glimmer of hope for some,a notice of another significant delay for others
Take your pick ! ! !
vlmeda said:
DO NOT mess around with any officialdom.The registration is a simple process,not subject to bribery (atleast in my case) and is not that expensive.Better to be safe than sorry.Just take some proof of the reason you want to stay take a blood relative who will sign an affidavit of support and you're done (You will need a shitload of xeroxes though-plan it as a 2 step procedure).
You cannot do it at any police station.There is a specific areawise distribution of where you have to apply.If not the metros i would expect you'd have to go your state capital atleast.Going to your local station will cause you unecessary grief.
I was in India for an extended period .While leaving i was asked for the registration certificate (it's a booklet).
Have a nice trip
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Thanks guys for all the info. Mangal why do u say that it cannot be done in district SP's office. i read it on Bureau Of Immigration site it can be done in district SP's office.
This is the info
The Immigration services at the major International Airports in India and the foreigners' registration work in five major cities, are handled by the Bureau of Immigration (BOI).
The field officers in charge of immigration and registration activities at Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Amritsar are called Foreigners Regional Registration Officers (FRROs). The designation for the equivalent in Chennai (Madras) is Chief Immigration Officer (CHIO). Apart from the FRROs/CHIO who look after the immigration/registration functions in the above mentioned five cities, the concerned S.Ps (Superintendents of Police) function as Foreigners Registration Officers (FROs) in the other districts in different states in the country.
i am not sure why u said otherwise. it is tough for me to go to any metro as we live quite far from my state capitol also. if any one have experince with district SP's office for regristation please provide info.
thanks
This is the info
The Immigration services at the major International Airports in India and the foreigners' registration work in five major cities, are handled by the Bureau of Immigration (BOI).
The field officers in charge of immigration and registration activities at Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata and Amritsar are called Foreigners Regional Registration Officers (FRROs). The designation for the equivalent in Chennai (Madras) is Chief Immigration Officer (CHIO). Apart from the FRROs/CHIO who look after the immigration/registration functions in the above mentioned five cities, the concerned S.Ps (Superintendents of Police) function as Foreigners Registration Officers (FROs) in the other districts in different states in the country.
i am not sure why u said otherwise. it is tough for me to go to any metro as we live quite far from my state capitol also. if any one have experince with district SP's office for regristation please provide info.
thanks
I got this quote from a friend who is monitoring the Indian Parliament website for OIC :
SHRI SHRIPRAKASH JAISWAL to lay on the Table –
1. A copy of the Registration of Foreigners (Amendment) Rules, 2003 (Hindi and English versions) published in Notification No. G.S.R. 828(E) in Gazette of India dated the 21st October, 2003, under sub-section (2) of section 3 of the Registration of Foreigners Act, 1939.
2. A copy of the Citizenship (Amendment) Rules, 2005 (Hindi and English versions) published in Notification No. G.S.R.225 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 11th April, 2005 under sub-section (4) of section 18 of the Citizenship Act, 1955.
3. A copy of the Registration of Foreigners (Exemption) Amendment Order, 2005 (Hindi and English versions) published in Notification No. S.O. 543 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 11th April, 2005 under sub-section (3) of section 6 of the Registration of Foreigners Act, 1939.
4. A copy of the Notification No. S.O. 542 (E) (Hindi and English versions) published in Gazette of India dated the 11th April, 2005 specifying the rights mentioned therein to which the persons registered as Overseas Citizens of India under section 7A of the Citizenship Act, 1955 issued under section 7B of the said Act.
5. A copy of the Passport (Entry into India) Amendment Rules, 2005 (Hindi and English versions) published in Notification No. G.S.R. 224 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 11th April, 2005 under sub-section (3) of section 3 of the Passport (Entry into India) Act, 1920.
I didnt even know we had such a website
Anyways Can someone translate it into English i.e Is any of this relevant to our "cause" and if yet what happens next an when ??
SHRI SHRIPRAKASH JAISWAL to lay on the Table –
1. A copy of the Registration of Foreigners (Amendment) Rules, 2003 (Hindi and English versions) published in Notification No. G.S.R. 828(E) in Gazette of India dated the 21st October, 2003, under sub-section (2) of section 3 of the Registration of Foreigners Act, 1939.
2. A copy of the Citizenship (Amendment) Rules, 2005 (Hindi and English versions) published in Notification No. G.S.R.225 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 11th April, 2005 under sub-section (4) of section 18 of the Citizenship Act, 1955.
3. A copy of the Registration of Foreigners (Exemption) Amendment Order, 2005 (Hindi and English versions) published in Notification No. S.O. 543 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 11th April, 2005 under sub-section (3) of section 6 of the Registration of Foreigners Act, 1939.
4. A copy of the Notification No. S.O. 542 (E) (Hindi and English versions) published in Gazette of India dated the 11th April, 2005 specifying the rights mentioned therein to which the persons registered as Overseas Citizens of India under section 7A of the Citizenship Act, 1955 issued under section 7B of the said Act.
5. A copy of the Passport (Entry into India) Amendment Rules, 2005 (Hindi and English versions) published in Notification No. G.S.R. 224 (E) in Gazette of India dated the 11th April, 2005 under sub-section (3) of section 3 of the Passport (Entry into India) Act, 1920.
I didnt even know we had such a website
Anyways Can someone translate it into English i.e Is any of this relevant to our "cause" and if yet what happens next an when ??
Vlmeda
Vlmeda:
SP office does reigstration. I know you are looking for someone's exp. You can find some info in the newsgrup in the link that I have mentioend below. And if you post it there, you will definately get responses from ppl abt their experience
http://groups.msn.com/R2IClub/general.msnw?all_topics=1
P.S. - R2I stands for Return 2 India
Vlmeda:
SP office does reigstration. I know you are looking for someone's exp. You can find some info in the newsgrup in the link that I have mentioend below. And if you post it there, you will definately get responses from ppl abt their experience
http://groups.msn.com/R2IClub/general.msnw?all_topics=1
P.S. - R2I stands for Return 2 India
Latest news
Seems dual citizenship registration is starting in June, but for only the 16 countries which were in the original list.Other people will have to wait.
Kinda makes you wonder why they stopped it for the 16 in the first place
Source www.rediff.com
Seems dual citizenship registration is starting in June, but for only the 16 countries which were in the original list.Other people will have to wait.
Kinda makes you wonder why they stopped it for the 16 in the first place
Source www.rediff.com