India Dual Citizenship Mega Thread (Merged)

[mangal969]

Indian4,
Congrats man ! just in a flash you went from odd man out to one of the "holders" ! ! !
About posting the OCI card i dont think that is such a hot idea.Instead just e-mail it to people who want it.And in that too only to people who you know are active members of the forum.It's an official document dont want to mess around too much.

 

[fitness99]

Just curious, does anyone have the new US Electronic Passport with the addition of a computer chip embedded in the back cover? It supposed to have been begun issuing last December.

US State Departments news on the E-Passport

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2006/61538.htm

 

[sv2707]

I agree...don't post

Indian4,
Congrats man ! just in a flash you went from odd man out to one of the "holders" ! ! !
About posting the OCI card i dont think that is such a hot idea.Instead just e-mail it to people who want it.And in that too only to people who you know are active members of the forum.It's an official document dont want to mess around too much.

I am not sure why one needs to see the document images. If you applied/granted you will receive it. The description posted on this thread is pretty good and clear.

 

[genesis1]

I re-did my fiddling on the MHA website....I can safely confirm that CGINY issues Granted status to 50 candidates/day.Should be an indicator for those with the file nos when they can expect to get Granted status and start the countdown .Today's last no is 809. Remember to skip weekends and public holidays

I would love to have an update on ths status of Granted people as regards their cards.CGINY doesnt look likely to post this information on their website.I believe there was a Mr Krishnan who was approved late Jan-early feb from NY.

As of 11AM EST today NY is at 822 for granted status. NY is moving. Under process is at 1340.

 

[ATLVAS]

Movement at last!!!

Thank god... Looks like there is some movement in processing from Houston. My application status has changed to "Under Process" today. Its been almost 9 weeks since I mailed my application.

 

[basis]

I am not sure why one needs to see the document images. If you applied/granted you will receive it. The description posted on this thread is pretty good and clear.

Indian4,
Congrats man ! just in a flash you went from odd man out to one of the "holders" ! ! !
About posting the OCI card i dont think that is such a hot idea.Instead just e-mail it to people who want it.And in that too only to people who you know are active members of the forum.It's an official document dont want to mess around too much.

It was a very casual request and without asking anyone to post their documents. I remember having seen a link for PIO card and it helped me. Because when I received my PIO card - it was not cut very well on border and got solace when I saw an image where it showed the borders were not smooth but cut roughly. When I asked this question to HCI London clerk who handed me this they gave me a blank stare and said if 'you want it replaced there is a fee'. But the online image helped me.

I did not ask anyone to put their personal details on web and would never do. And I would say further that there is nothing called 'active members' who you know etc. If there is anything that you cant publish in public dont sent to anyone whether active / hyperactive or whatever. At least dont send to me.

From the posts of INDIAN4 so far I believe that he is well educated, well versed, intelligent person having common sense to protect his interests. And being an adult who is mature enough I would request him to apply his own judegement in the case - which I think he has already done if you care to see his reply. And also at the same time reiterate that the request was not to someone to post their details but if there was such link.

 

[dad22]

I've applied at SF consulate. We have the number from the part A of the application. But how does one get the file number ? The auto generated number on the part A does not seem to be the file number. Is the consulate suppose to mail/email it to you. Please clarify ...

 

[mangal969]

I've applied at SF consulate. We have the number from the part A of the application. But how does one get the file number ? The auto generated number on the part A does not seem to be the file number. Is the consulate suppose to mail/email it to you. Please clarify ...

The file number will be given to you by the embassy once they process.The number on the form is the reference number.Keep that handy for reference.You can also check for your file no and status (based on reference no) on the MHA website

 

[happymister-1]

what is the current timeline for OCI and PIO card at CG NY ?

After we have now received our US passports, we are now ready to get our OCI /PIO cards.
We are planning to R2I - move back- to India in May 2006 before school session starts in June.

Now, obviously I will be working in India - but for now, wife will stay home.
so I was thinking of getting OCI card for myself and wife and
PIO card for my 3 kids - since its much cheaper and valid for 15 years.
who knows by then things might change. or else, i can upgrade them to OCI after I go to India for $25 - still will be cheaper than directly applying for OCI.

Can someone tell me what are the timelines for OCI vs PIO card.
I am worried that folks like indian4 took 2 months to get OCI card - and that will be cutting it too close for me. what about PIO cards ?

no response from phone calls or emails to cg ny - so please advice !!

 

[mangal969]

It was a very casual request and without asking anyone to post their documents. I remember having seen a link for PIO card and it helped me. Because when I received my PIO card - it was not cut very well on border and got solace when I saw an image where it showed the borders were not smooth but cut roughly. When I asked this question to HCI London clerk who handed me this they gave me a blank stare and said if 'you want it replaced there is a fee'. But the online image helped me.

I did not ask anyone to put their personal details on web and would never do. And I would say further that there is nothing called 'active members' who you know etc. If there is anything that you cant publish in public dont sent to anyone whether active / hyperactive or whatever. At least dont send to me.

From the posts of INDIAN4 so far I believe that he is well educated, well versed, intelligent person having common sense to protect his interests. And being an adult who is mature enough I would request him to apply his own judegement in the case - which I think he has already done if you care to see his reply. And also at the same time reiterate that the request was not to someone to post their details but if there was such link.

Relax basis no one is pointing fingers.At some level even I am itching to see what the inside of an OCI card looks like.Indian4 has already said he's going to blank out the personal details so it's OK.The only point i was worried about was to upload it to Yahoo and post the username/password on the forum.That makes it accessible to all and is risky.Maybe if he just e-mails it directly to whomever he wants and not keep a copy on the internet it would be OK.

 

[mangal969]

After we have now received our US passports, we are now ready to get our OCI /PIO cards.
We are planning to R2I - move back- to India in May 2006 before school session starts in June.

Now, obviously I will be working in India - but for now, wife will stay home.
so I was thinking of getting OCI card for myself and wife and
PIO card for my 3 kids - since its much cheaper and valid for 15 years.
who knows by then things might change. or else, i can upgrade them to OCI after I go to India for $25 - still will be cheaper than directly applying for OCI.

Can someone tell me what are the timelines for OCI vs PIO card.
I am worried that folks like indian4 took 2 months to get OCI card - and that will be cutting it too close for me. what about PIO cards ?

no response from phone calls or emails to cg ny - so please advice !!

It all depends on your target date.Beginning of May is impossible,Middle of May is tight and End of May is plausible for OCI's from NY.PIO's take around 3 weeks.
As an alternate,apply for your kids PIO's and take tourist visas for yourself and your wife.Once you reach India apply for your OCI's ASAP.

 

[hipka]

After we have now received our US passports, we are now ready to get our OCI /PIO cards.
We are planning to R2I - move back- to India in May 2006 before school session starts in June.

Now, obviously I will be working in India - but for now, wife will stay home.
so I was thinking of getting OCI card for myself and wife and
PIO card for my 3 kids - since its much cheaper and valid for 15 years.
who knows by then things might change. or else, i can upgrade them to OCI after I go to India for $25 - still will be cheaper than directly applying for OCI.

Can someone tell me what are the timelines for OCI vs PIO card.
I am worried that folks like indian4 took 2 months to get OCI card - and that will be cutting it too close for me. what about PIO cards ?

no response from phone calls or emails to cg ny - so please advice !!

Out of curiosity, may I ask why you are planning to move back to india?

 

[hipka]

Without giving away my age, its been 30+ years to get OCI Thanks Hipka, to you and your employer - GoI.

BTW I am not an employee of GOI nor am I related to one. Also it took you 17months and not 30yrs to get an OCI. You can apply for an OCI as soon as you become a foreign citizen without waiting for 4 yrs like the UK system. The fact that UK govt. forces you to wait for 4 yrs. shows their exploitative nature.

 

[mangal969]

BTW I am not an employee of GOI nor am I related to one. Also it took you 17months and not 30yrs to get an OCI. You can apply for an OCI as soon as you become a foreign citizen without waiting for 4 yrs like the UK system. The fact that UK govt. forces you to wait for 4 yrs. shows their exploitative nature.

Dude you are really disenchanted by the UK system..Why i will not know and never find out.But if you think it's so exploitative and discriminatory why are you within that system (i.e why are you wanting to become a BPR ?) ? And if you are not within the system why are you so bothered about it ??
Every country has a right to determine it's own laws.You have to option to obey them and stay with them or leave for another country.

 

[mangal969]

NY is really moving now. Last granted no is 879 ! ! ! (9 PM EST 17 March '06)

Under process remains at 1340.Maybe that was the last one.

But what about the cards ??

 

[basis]

BTW I am not an employee of GOI nor am I related to one. Also it took you 17months and not 30yrs to get an OCI. You can apply for an OCI as soon as you become a foreign citizen without waiting for 4 yrs like the UK system. The fact that UK govt. forces you to wait for 4 yrs. shows their exploitative nature.

You would be extremely happy to know that w.e.f 3rd April 2006 the British PR will take five years. Now UK system is even more exploitative.

One thing I'll try once to more to squeeze into ur thick brain:

1. UK PR -
a. Is given to anyone whether previous UK national or not.
b. In fact previous UK national do not need because there is no 'previous' UK national unless a person have given it up. So once a UK national taking any other citizenship does not force one to give up UK nationality. He / She still remains UK national.

2. Indian OCI -
a. It is not given to anyone who was not previous Indian national.
b. Very existence of Indian OCI is required because one looses Indian Citizenship when one takes up any other citizenship.

 

[mangal969]

basis,
Indian OCI is given to people who are not Indian nationals-the children and grandchildren of Indian nationals !
So probably a more accurate line would be that OCI is not given to anyone without Indian ancestry.

 

[basis]

Relax basis no one is pointing fingers.At some level even I am itching to see what the inside of an OCI card looks like.Indian4 has already said he's going to blank out the personal details so it's OK.The only point i was worried about was to upload it to Yahoo and post the username/password on the forum.That makes it accessible to all and is risky.Maybe if he just e-mails it directly to whomever he wants and not keep a copy on the internet it would be OK.

Fine dude....I was pretty ok with what you had written and way you had written......but the manner in which SV has written is a typical Big Brother and Police approach. And clearly without trying to look at the original posts carefully.

 

[basis]

basis,
Indian OCI is given to people who are not Indian nationals-the children and grandchildren of Indian nationals !
So probably a more accurate line would be that OCI is not given to anyone without Indian ancestry.

Thanks Mangal for completing the point.

Although obviously minor from the point of view of what's being discussed.

 

[genesis1]

krishnan did you get your card

NY is really moving Now last granted no is 879 ! ! ! (9 PM EST 17 March '06)

But what about the cards ??

I wonder if krishnan from cginy got his card, since he was granted in feb.