I-130 and 1-485 denied...what now?

JTandMaria

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I am a USC and my wife is Filipino. We were married over a year ago (June , 2008) in the US after dating for 2 years. It is the second marriage for us both and we are both legally divorced. Her first marriage was to her petitioner (K-1 visa) and only lasted 1 year due to unreasonable expectations on his part. While married to her former husband she applied for an Adjustment of Status (I-485). My wife had received no updates on this petition until recently. After we married, we also filed an I-485 for our marriage, thinking this was the right thing to do. We have and continue to try our best to comply with all laws we are aware of regarding our situation.

We received denial letters each dated July 10, 2009, for each of these applications. The denials were due to her divorce from her petioner and that our I-485 was not legitimate because I did not file the original petition. At this point I assume she is "out of status" and will have to leave the country soon and we are preparing for this eventuality. I will then have to file another I-130 petition so she can return. We are unsure of what to do and expect. We have been told many things by many different people including lawyers and USCIS staff. One USCIS staff member suggested that I refile an I-130 ASAP and that she should not have to leave the country at all. (I have been told by a lawyer that he is "dead worng") Two attorney's have suggested that her "unlawfull presence" would not begin to accumulate until the date of the denial (June 10, 2009). I would liek to beleive this, but a USCIS staffer insisted that it would be retroactive to the date of her first I-485 (Feb. 8, 2005), which makes no sense to me at all. This is obviously very important to know, because if she does return to the Phillippines she may not be allowed to return if she stayed longer then she is supposed to. We have also been told by USCIS that she can have no more than 90 days of unlawful presence here before she will be barred from reentry for several years. A lawyer we consulted has said that the time is 180 days. Are there any absolutes in immigration or is everything subject to interpretation and someones whim? How long does she have until she has to leave the country, 30, 90 or 180 days and when did her "unlawful presence" really begin to accumulate? Also how do we notify USCIS that she has departed voluntarily to avoid being placed in proceedings? If she has left and is placed in proceedings what do we do then?

We would of course like to avoid the step voluntary deperature for obvious reasons if at all possible, but I do not see a clear path to this. Any helpful suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
 
From what I understand marriage to a USC forgives any and all overstay. So if you file a I-130 petition on her behalf with another I-485 asap as soon as uscis has received the applications your wife will be "in status" again. Just be prepared to give a lot of evidence for your relationship as uscis may be a bit suspicious considering how recently your wife was divorced.

It could be very risky for your wife to leave the country at this time as she may receive an automatic re-entry bar considering her current immigration status.

I would recommend that you consult with an experienced attorney.

All the best
 
She came over on a K-1 which means she had to marry and file the I-485 with the original petitioner. Now that is dead and buried she needs to leave the country and start again with the new USC. There is no way around that from what i understand since the original K-1 she entered on is not transferrable.
You might get lucky and she has not accurred any overstay since the old I-485 she had however would definitely be checking with a very competent lawyer on this one. I do not believe under current law there is anyway she can adjust without going out of the country first because she came in on the original K-1 for someone else.
 
I am not sure what to believe now. I am consulting another attorney ASAP, but should I believe them or the first attorney we wnt to if they have differing opinions and advice. It seems this process is quite subjective.
 
From what I understand, as long as she was inspected by an immigration official upon entry to the country she is ok to adjust status through marriage regardless of what capacity she entered under or how long ago it was.

Read page 2 of the I-485 instructions for clarity.
regards
 
From what I understand, as long as she was inspected by an immigration official upon entry to the country she is ok to adjust status through marriage regardless of what capacity she entered under or how long ago it was.

Read page 2 of the I-485 instructions for clarity.
regards
you are incorrect. You should reread the instructions to the forms yourself. Those who come here on K-1 cannot adjust status through anybody but their K-1 petitioner.
 
you are incorrect. You should reread the instructions to the forms yourself. Those who come here on K-1 cannot adjust status through anybody but their K-1 petitioner.

YES if your wife entered in US using K1 she can't Adjust her status using another petitioner, she needs to go back home and you have to petition her again.
 
If the ban started from the date of the 485 denial then she will most likely get a one year ban. I do not think that they would use this as she was not eligible to adjust status in the first place.
If it started from Feb 2005 she will get a 10 year ban.

I would suggest contacting the US embassy in her home country as this will be in their hands when you go back there.
 
Form I-485 instructions says clearly Who is not eligible to adjust status, point G. "You were admitted as a K-1 fiance(e), but did not marry US Citizen who filed the petition for you"
 
I understand but...

Form I-485 instructions says clearly Who is not eligible to adjust status, point G. "You were admitted as a K-1 fiance(e), but did not marry US Citizen who filed the petition for you"

True enough and the lawyer we consulted pointed this out, as have others. It has also been pointed out, however that she did in fact marry the USC who filed the petition, even if they did divorce 1 year later. Understand our goal is and always has been, to do whatever it takes to legally adjust her status as quickly as we can so we can get on with our life. We are just not sure how to do this. Our hope is that we haven't messed-up unintentionally already and earned a 10 year ban. The intent of the law is to prevent non- bona-fide immigration. We do not fall into this category and we have plenty of proof of this fact. We arwe prepared for a 1 year out-of-country immigration process, but a 10 year ban would just be unfair and uncalled for.
 
All I can say is do everything in your power to change her status while she is in the US because once you leave she risks not being allowed back.
If you did decide to leave then once she gets back home she needs to go the the US embassy and show them that she has left.
She can just leave the country without going through the voluntary departure procedure as proceedings have not started against her.

If you called the 1-800 number to speak to an IO then I would suggest that you rather get an infopass because those people are not all that clued up.

Did your denial letter state whether you could appeal or reopen the case at all?
 
Once your wife married her original USC spouse she fulfilled the conditions of her k-1 visa. When the original I-130 and I-485 where filed she was "in status" pending aos. That status was abandoned due to divorce.

Your mistake was to file the I-485 without a valid I-130 petition (your wife's ex-husband obviously cannot petiton for her).

I suggest you refile the I-485 along with a I-130 petition from you and corresponding documents.
 
I am not sure if you can have any us of this but last year 9th circuit decided that even if eligible K-1 gets divorced he may be able to get PR on the original application. Get a very good lawyer dealing with appeals or motions to reconsider.
http://goodnewspilipinas.com/?p=3089
 
hi JTandMaria!

I knew somebody that had the same case of yours. She's a Filipina too. She got divorce of her first husband and fell in love with somebody. They got married in the US before she went back to the Philippines and her husband petitioned her. It took about 6 months before she got back in here and they start all over again. And also if you get a problem please contact your congressman and they'll help you. Goodluck!
 
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