How does Refugee/Asylee process works?

geetha1

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Hello, how does refugee/Asylee process works?
I tried asking this simple question to One ID moniker - NIMCHE who is from Iran but he said he does not want to answer this question. No reason why.
Now this is a POLITICAL Asylum forum.
Nimche says he is an Religious asylee/refugee(?) from Iran and he went to Austria first and then came to US. He also said he was scared whether he will have to answer questions regarding his Asylum Green card during the Citizenship interview! I found that remarkable! and very odd indeed.
Is anyone here who can honestly clarify this process.
Also I am confused as to why an asylee/refugee whose main/primary/sole aim is to flee/escape perseution that he/she claims he/she had to endure - would not seek asylum in a democratic but average/poor country economy wise?
If not, isn't one aim of a refugee/asylee is to gain entry into an economically prosperous country? (I think so - personal opinion) But then this whole asylee/refugee process's secondary aim seems to be to gain dollars. Isn't that so?
make your own reasonable arguments please, I have made mine.
Be polite.
Thanks.
 
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An asylum interview isn't a walk in the park. You're way more nervous than you are before a citizenship interview. Maybe you went through some things that traumatised you. You have to collect information to prove that the situation in your home country is so bad that you can't live there for fear of persecution. However, once it's over, and you've been approved, you just want to forget about it all and move on with your life.

Many years later, for a citizenship interview, you really don't want to deal with the past, and have to remember every little detail about the situation in your home country. You just want to get past the hurdle in front of you. You may answer just one little question incorrectly if they ask about your asylum case, and you don't want to do that.

It's like when you take a midterm that covers the first half of a course, and then a final, which you hope covers only the second half because it's just easier. A final which covers the WHOLE course is just a pain in the bum.

Anyway, Nimche does not have to give you every detail of his past if he doesn't want to (or she?). You cannot pester him about it. Leave him, and others, alone if they don't want to provide certain details that may be irrelevant to the issue at hand.
 
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Also I am confused as to why an asylee/refugee whose main/primary/sole aim is to flee/escape perseution that he/she claims he/she had to endure - would not seek asylum in a democratic but average/poor country economy wise?

If not, isn't one aim of a refugee/asylee is to gain entry into an economically prosperous country? (I think so - personal opinion) But then this whole asylee/refugee process's secondary aim seems to be to gain dollars. Isn't that so?
make your own reasonable arguments please, I have made mine.
Be polite.
Thanks.

First of all Geetha, to win asylum in any country isn't as easy as you think. You have to prove without doubt that you deserve it. Secondly, To answer your #1 question. Why do refugees come here? then tell me why do H1s/L1s or any other immigrants come to the U.S.A? Because this country is the land of opportunity and the fact that everyone is treated fairly. This country allows immigrants from all over so thats why people seek to come here before they go to other countries.

Every country has miniorties and the Gujurat incident did send few refugees out of India. So did the Indhra Gandhi massacare on Sikh minorities..Maybe you dont know but many HIndus were persecuted in Middle eastern countries but they were not accepted by India because they were not born in India. Where do those ppl go??????

IF you want I can send you links to all the minorities stories that you think are here for dollars. You read their stories and then you can understand why. Even people of your faith/relgiion have won asylum as I am assuming you are of Indian origin.

Please stop judging others and think that his/her story is not genuine.
 
make your own reasonable arguments please, I have made mine.

You didn't make any arguments, you only made assertions. When you have an actual argument you want to make, rather than just trying to make trouble, I'll respond.

However, I will respond to one thing. The primary reason why most asylum seekers attempt to come to the United States if they possibly can, even passing through other free democratic countries to get here, is because the United States has the most liberal refugee laws in the entire world. That's right, it is easier to get asylum here than anywhere else. And once you get here you have more rights than asylum seekers anywhere else in the world. And once you get asylum, you have more opportunity to permanently stay here than asylum seekers anywhere else.
 
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Oh, it looks like she added a 'greed' section to her post. EVERYONE WANTS MONEY- those who come here on work visas a well as through asylum. Why would ANYONE pick a poorer country vs. a richer one? She's definitely just trying to agitate everyone here. Let's ignore her posts, please...
 
Oh, it looks like she added a 'greed' section to her post. EVERYONE WANTS MONEY- those who come here on work visas a well as through asylum. Why would ANYONE pick a poorer country vs. a richer one? She's definitely just trying to agitate everyone here. Let's ignore her posts, please...

I think the post was definitely designed to cause trouble. But, I don't think we should ignore a legitimate question or argument. That's why I edited my last post to try to answer one question the OP had that seemed legit.
 
no specific answers yet but accusations.
But many here admitted that Financial part plays a big role in a refugee/asylee decision to move here.
so it is also a financial decision. Like cafeconliche admitted.
I ask you Mister- why not? why not someone who is so deseprate and being persecuted according to them would not want to move to some country which would be free but poor.?
I ask how many of these stories are true?
I ask if someone has nothing to hide why would they not reply but continue to come to this site and get information(nimche).

Then we have someone who asks a ridiculous question - why do h1-B come here?

So h1-b = asylee/refugee.
same aim then. Money. Although it is clear cut in case of h1-b but motive is hidden in case of an asylee/refugee.
Agreed?

Can we agree on ths one please?

I say let us bring out the truth and facts.
If that is hurtful - then I ask why?
I say there is resume fraud going on in H1-b and it may be widespread as Us consulate report from Chennnai found out that 50 percent of resumes for h1-b were fraudulent. Now how many got away undetected?
So truth shouldn't hurt unless one is hiding something.
But we have meaningless replies - then obviously somewhere truth is hurting someone here.
Nimche wants information but would not give out any - it is not a one way street.
 
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I don't think anyone is hiding anything. There are frauds in all walks of life. It's no surprise. But, without knowing the story of an individual on this forum, refrain from accusing them of being a fraud.

As for choosing a country, if you could, you'd choose a country where you could lead a better life and have a better chance of being integrated into society, like the US, right? Look at this article:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/925355de-3ccf-11dd-b958-0000779fd2ac.html

Most refugees DO go to neighbouring countries. Those who can, go farther. They have every right to. If you think there's something unnatural about that, you've got issues.
 
Go farther - to rich countries for financial reasons - then? You admit . agreed.
Let us then talk about this refugee/asylee process in detail.
What stories does a refugee/asylee have that would make their case? of
being persecuted?
 
I don't think anyone is hiding anything. There are frauds in all walks of life. It's no surprise. But, without knowing the story of an individual on this forum, refrain from accusing them of being a fraud.

As for choosing a country, if you could, you'd choose a country where you could lead a better life and have a better chance of being integrated into society, like the US, right? Look at this article:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/925355de-3ccf-11dd-b958-0000779fd2ac.html

Most refugees DO go to neighbouring countries. Those who can, go farther. They have every right to. If you think there's something unnatural about that, you've got issues.

The ones who got issues are people like you who won't explain the process and directly answer the topic.
They have every right to.....? where does that come from? If one is so persecuted like they claim then the first thing that comes is to escape that persecution and not money.
Right to or Planned to? Planned to go to economically prosperous countries and so economic refugees then?
The European countries call them economic refugees. It looks like you got issues.
 
Geetha Darling ????

Geetha Darling.....................whats ur point ? leave poor people alone ........simple answer to all of ur questions ................Everyone wants best for them and as u know America is the best...........so plz go figure.everyone with this forum will appreciate.thanks and have fun with ur life..
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The ones who got issues are people like you who won't explain the process and directly answer the topic.
They have every right to.....? where does that come from? If one is so persecuted like they claim then the first thing that comes is to escape that persecution and not money.
Right to or Planned to? Planned to go to economically prosperous countries and so economic refugees then?
The European countries call them economic refugees. It looks like you got issues.

Geetha, can you answer one question.
Where do those ppl(muslim) from India go who were persecuted in Gujurat riots? Where do hindu ppl go who were not born in India but were persecuted in other countries?

Which country is human rights leader(India or America?). Where do ppl go then? America? Are you that dumb?? If you want answers, answer the questions ppl ask you to.

What is your status here. Are you h1? Why did you come here?
 
Poor Soul

Geetha Darling ....AKA .....Poor soul ................plz leave asylee's alone and GET A LIFE......................U can do lots of good things with ur life ........u don't have to point ur fingers towards Asylees.......\
I guess u have all the answers of ur questins already ........So plz be polite to everyone and aspecially to Asylee's.
thanks Again
 
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