How do I count total days outside of US?

[bobikk]

Hello,

How should I count the total days outside of US for the Part 7. A & C in the N-400 form? For example if I count how many days there is between dates 09/14/2005 - 10/06/2005 (including these dates) then I get 23.

But when use any of the online date range calculators they tell me 22 because apparently they don't count the last day.

Which count is correct?

Thanks

 

[BigJoe5]

Unless it is CRITICAL to your eligibility, nobody will check the math. Travel days don't count as full days in the calculations.

 

[Be77]

Hello, when its comes to counting. Do this... Count from the first day u left the country, but not the day u arrived to the country. So the total will be 22 days.

Good Luck.

 

[mogambo1]

Hello,

How should I count the total days outside of US for the Part 7. A & C in the N-400 form? For example if I count how many days there is between dates 09/14/2005 - 10/06/2005 (including these dates) then I get 23.

But when use any of the online date range calculators they tell me 22 because apparently they don't count the last day.

Which count is correct?

Thanks

I also had similar question. Lets say I traveled outside US on 15 and reached another country on 17th (due to time diff and the way flights were placed).

Usually when leaving US no one cares and stamps your passport, while some countries including India stamps both entry and exit, that is immigration date and emmigration date.

Now the question is shall I write on N-400 that i stayed in USA till 15th, as mentioned above and as it actually happened or shall I report on N-400 that I stayed in USA till 17th, which is the date I entered another country. Since US does not stamp exit date so mentioning 17th to get benefit of 2 days should not be considered fraud or is it? Thanks for your input, just asking simple question without any wrong intentions.

 

[Be77]

Hi! if u left USA on 15, then u left. on 15. count from the day u left but not the day u returned.

Good Luck.

 

[Al Southner]

Do u have a need to create 15 thousand threads to ask your questions? You can use your single thread to ask all these questions.

 

[Jackolantern]

Usually when leaving US no one cares and stamps your passport, while some countries including India stamps both entry and exit, that is immigration date and emmigration date.

When you check in for a flight that leaves the US, you must show your passport and/or green card. The information is captured by the airline and forwarded to CBP who then makes it available to USCIS. So your exit is recorded in their system, even though they don't stamp your passport.

If you left the US on the 15th and reached your destination on the 16th or 17th, write the 15th as your exit date. They don't care about when you landed elsewhere, they care about when you exited the US.

 

[Jackolantern]

But when use any of the online date range calculators they tell me 22 because apparently they don't count the last day.

You're not supposed to count the last day or the first day as days outside the US. So when you use an online date calculator, subtract 1 from the result you get.

 

[mogambo1]

Thanks, did not know of that. My passport was never scanned while exiting but always scanned in India both at the time of arrival and departure, so thought so.

 

[mogambo1]

When you check in for a flight that leaves the US, you must show your passport and/or green card. The information is captured by the airline and forwarded to CBP who then makes it available to USCIS. So your exit is recorded in their system, even though they don't stamp your passport.

If you left the US on the 15th and reached your destination on the 16th or 17th, write the 15th as your exit date. They don't care about when you landed elsewhere, they care about when you exited the US.

Thanks, did not know of that. My passport was never scanned while exiting but always scanned in India both at the time of arrival and departure, so thought so.

 

[sanjoseaug20]

Thanks, did not know of that. My passport was never scanned while exiting but always scanned in India both at the time of arrival and departure, so thought so.

Unless you traveled way before 9/11, they scanned your passport. It is not CBP or USCIS doing it, but the airlines. Again, the rules have been evolving, but nowadays I do not think you can fly in and out of US without the airline seeing your passport, and whatever the airline records goes to the government.

 

[Bobsmyth]

Thanks, did not know of that. My passport was never scanned while exiting but always scanned in India both at the time of arrival and departure, so thought so.

You presented your passport at the airline counter during check in. The check in person likely scanned the passport out of view without you realizing it. In any case, your information (whether your passport was scanned or not) was sent to DHS before departure so they have a record of when you left the country .

 

[Jackolantern]

Thanks, did not know of that. My passport was never scanned while exiting but always scanned in India both at the time of arrival and departure, so thought so.

If they didn't electronically scan your passport, they at least typed in your passport number into the system when you checked in at the US airport for the departing flight.

 

[mogambo1]

If they didn't electronically scan your passport, they at least typed in your passport number into the system when you checked in at the US airport for the departing flight.

You presented your passport at the airline counter during check in. The check in person likely scanned the passport out of view without you realizing it. In any case, your information (whether your passport was scanned or not) was sent to DHS before departure so they have a record of when you left he country .

Unless you traveled way before 9/11, they scanned your passport. It is not CBP or USCIS doing it, but the airlines. Again, the rules have been evolving, but nowadays I do not think you can fly in and out of US without the airline seeing your passport, and whatever the airline records goes to the government.

Thanks guys!