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How consul on the interview determines opulence

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cardray

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Is here some formula which can accurately predict our eligibility? (Is there some statistics about how much percent of DV winners that gets rejected because of possibility of becoming a public charge?)

My mom won in DV this year and I afraid that we won't fit because consul can suppose that we will become a public charge.

Here's the things which I suppose can encourage consul:
- Real estate. Currently here in Ufa, Russia we have a real estate which worth just about $13,000 - $20,000 - not more. My question is how much real estate presence can affect on consul's opinion? Personally I think that having real estate won't stop person from becoming public charge. Another one question - does opulence of son of a winner means something to consul? I am asking that because my father have some property which costs $5,000 - does that make any weather? Because I don't know am I to spend additional $500 for different fees (real estate appraisal, transportation fees of coming to father's town, etc) and pretty big amount of time just for adding another peace of real estate which possibly won't make any difference in our chances to pass interview.
- Family composition. Currently it is not very impressive - it is 4 person who is going to move almost without money (our budget for immigration can be only $5,000 or $10,000): It is my mom, who has only vocational education degree in some Moscow college (she is artist, but last several years she worked above her bend - she changed a lots of jobs by working in restaurant, mostly in washing dishes positions), another one person is my youngest 4 y.o. sister, another one person is my 17 y.o. sister who in december of this year becomes 18 y.o., and I am, who have extraordinary skills and no education (I have only vocational school as my mom) and work experience.
- Auxiliary documents. I don't know how wide should be our imagination in providing documents for consul - should I bring him powerpoint presentation to persuade him (joke), CV, recommendations from employers, school teachers, recommendations from other people, I just afraid that if we will bring too much non-official documents which proves our sustainability, it will only confuse consul.
- Interview. Again I don't have any clue how to behave myself on interview, if I and my mom will be too realistic in talks explaining to consul all negative sides of our movement, then we will be able to persuade consul that we aren't sustainable, on the other hand if we will talk more proudly, not mentioning any negative sides, I think consul can suspect that we lie. Where's the midpoint?
 
Honesty is always the best policy, and consul could see that you guys truly deserve to achieve the American Dream, so I don't think he/she will be empathetic, but on the same token he/she has a job to do, In my opinion I don't think your property is enough for the affidavit of support purposes, you guys really need a sponsor based in US who can provide that for you, that will really might be your only chance of achieving a American dream.
 
Yes thank to this forum, I understand now that affidavit of support is significant thing, but how much significant it is? Does this guarantee that this will persuade consul that we won't become public charge?
 
Real Estate property doesn't count as money...money means "savings in the bank" or cash.
Nowadays it is hard to sell a property and it can even take years...on top of that, CP or USCIS is not going to check if there is a mortgage on it and if so the property is only partially owned and worth hardly anything.

Check the poverty guidelines and see how much money you need to at least survive in the USA.

You need cash on arrival or a job or you will be homeless and no money for food and clothes. You will not qualify for welfare upon arrival and unless you find a sponsor or have cash or job...you won't be able to qualify for the GC...Sorry, just a honest answer so start looking for a sponsor, that might be your option.
 
Yes, a strong affidavit of support will definitely convince the Consular that you will not become a public charge because if you do then the person providing the affidavit of support will have to reimburse the US government as they are taking your responsibility, this is what affidavit of support is all about and if somebody takes that responsibilty for you then the Consular officer would not have any issues relating to you becoming a public charge.
 
@cardray

Did you check this?
http://moscow.usembassy.gov/ivdv.html (see under INTERVIEW PREPARATION)

It gives a pretty good idea how you should prepare.
Pl dbl, trpl check that your Mom's highest education qualifies for DV. DO NOT waste money if it does not.
If your Mom's plan is to seek qualifications based on Basic Education+Work experience, that is bit dangerous 'cos they might reject your 'assumption' of qualifications at the intvw. (Remember you all will face the intvw ONLY AFTER paying $819 visa fee for each person in the family!!)

Try chk with prior Russian winners on how your country education levels qualifies for DV. ( I am not sure when was they last qualified..2003?)

Since Russia is new to DV 11, you may want to chk around for other online 'regional DV forums' (eg. Uzbek, Ukrain etc) where you will get more regional specific info.

Good Luck !

PS: Pl remember this basic fact, consular officer has the final say on issuing DV after reviewing all the 'facts' related to your case. No one can give you prior 'GUARANTEES'
Best you can do is follow the guidelines, try to get as much info you possibly can and make an educated decision that your Mom and others MEET the basic DV 'requirements' , then you should be ok.
 
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I appreciate all your replies
Pl dbl, trpl check that your Mom's highest education qualifies for DV
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This is good suggestion and I am a little bit confused if she qualifies. I don't know how to check it.
Maybe someone of you can help? She graduated in "Moscow College of Applied Arts named after M. Kalinin"

Yea though I read moscow.usembassy web-site, I didn't saw that page there, thus sure it is useful for preparation
 
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cardray said:
I appreciate all your replies

This is good suggestion and I am a little bit confused if she qualifies. I don't know how to check it.
Maybe someone of you can help? She graduated in "Moscow College of Applied Arts named after M. Kalinin"

Yea though I read moscow.usembassy web-site, I didn't saw that page there, thus sure it is useful for preparation
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It sounds to me a post secondary/tertiary education institue specialized in art & craft.
How long was her studies there and what was the final certificate......a diploma/certificate/baccalaureate degree? (if a 4 year degree she should be fine I think)

Ask yourself the question, is it a 'recognized' institute in Russia? (as per say, Russian higher ed. ministry standards)
Are US embassy staff (US and Russians especially) will be able to easily 'defend' its standards as being 'well recognized'?

More importantly.........Did she enter it AFTER full 8,10 or 12 years of 'secondary' education?

If 12 she should be fine (but again her 'stream' of subject matter learned during the last 4 years of that 12 will dictate whether it is recognized as equivalent to US high school education)

If entered after only 8 or 10 yrs of 'secondary edu' , then I will be skeptical about her DV 'eligibility' based on education. BUT...pl dbl chk!

PS: Chk this.....High School Diploma Equivalents

http://www.immihelp.com/immigration/high-school-diploma-equivalents.html

Russia-------> Attestat o srednem obrazovanii (Certificate of Secondary Education)
 
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Cardray, you sound very intelligent and the sort who could do very well but just remember to factor everything in. If money is tight now, just imagine how difficult things could be in America with no family/friends/support network, maybe language problems for your Mum to find a job, also no connections, economy not doing well ... even US people finding things not easy, emotionally could be tough for your sisters to settle if you all have to struggle day to day and they are still quite young...etc etc. Sometimes uprooting not the best...have to judge how you can survive in a new country....
 
It may also be necessary to prove that you will not become a public charge, dependent on the U.S. government for support. This can be established by demonstrating considerable assets, a job offer, qualifications for jobs that are in demand, or an affidavit of support.
 
It sounds to me a post secondary/tertiary education institue specialized in art & craft.
How long was her studies there and what was the final certificate......a diploma/certificate/baccalaureate degree? (if a 4 year degree she should be fine I think)
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It is diploma, but I don't know how much years, I will ask her. I suppose that she studied there only 1 or 2 years.

Did she enter it AFTER full 8,10 or 12 years of 'secondary' education?
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Yes, I think she did entered it after secondary education. I think that this is kinda recognized institution, but I doubt that it can be compared anyhow with high school (university) education diploma.
 
http://www.immihelp.com/immigration/high-school-diploma-equivalents.html
Russia-------> Attestat o srednem obrazovanii (Certificate of Secondary Education)
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I think that everybody in Russia have a certificate of secondary education, and if it is the only criteria for consulate for determining level of education, I doubt that Russian consul will be guided by this rule. I think that consul understands full well that certificate of secondary education is too easy to get.
 
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