Happy Independence day (in advance)

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http://www.islamicpopulation.com/india_muslim.html

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Would you agree with the point of view that the real percentage of the Muslim population in India is about 25 per cent?

There is no denial. It may be more. Anyway, it cannot be less than 20 per cent. It could be 25 per cent. I do not say like some others that it is 30 per cent. It is quite a substantial chunk.
 
Welcome to Islamic republic of India in the next 50 years.

Hope we all get GCs so that our kids will not be part of this islamic republic with shariat law..

Bleak future in India...
 
pingpong02, the fact remains the same, though it has eased a lot in the recent days - people are being discriminated based on caste. The other thing is people can pray at home, but if you are not allowed in the temple, the disgruntled low-caste guy, who has an option, would start believing in some other religion. I am just worried that it will become extinct sometime later, probably become like Zorastrainism or Judaism.
 
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pingpong02, the fact remains the same, though it has eased a lot in the recent days - people are being discriminated based on caste. The other thing is people can pray at home, but if you are not allowed in the temple, the disgruntled low-caste guy, who has an option, would start believing in some other religion. I am just worried that it will become extinct sometime later, probably become like Zorastrainism or Judaism.
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Frantic - would you have any words of advise for this disgruntled low-caste guy ?

1) I don't give a $hit about being a priest in a temple. I just want to be treated equal to everybody else. But turns out, I am apparently not equal to everyone else, not "good enough" or "pure enough" to enter some of your temples. Could you please explain why so that I can explain to my kids and they can stop bugging me ?

2) I am smart enough to know that no relegion advocates a discriminatory society - since a house divided amongst itself cannot stand. The graveyards are littlered with relegions which tried to create a divided society. The divisions are a product of a social order and nurtured by people who derive an advantage from it or identify with it (a.k.a the "upper" castes). If you want to say there is no advantage - take a look at the creme'-de-la creme' of indian socio-political hierarchy.
3) if you take pride in your lineage (and not much else), you will not challenge the social status quo that advocates pedigree based social status. You will justify everything from simple discrimination to lynching to preserve that staus quo. Or else you would have realized that the caste system is racist and would have advocated a uniform social code (that only applies to muslims, doesn't it ?). How about banning the caste system altogether ? Will you have a problem with that ? I don't see how we can sustain this conundrum of a viable secular democracy in a segregated society.

4) Zorastrainism or Judaism are not extinct
 
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Caste system

In Hinduizam Caste/Race system exist for a very long time. Even within Hindu GODs (Mahavarat).
The great Karna was always a better warrior than Arzun. However, he was deceived in bride selection game to win 'Draphadi'.
Everybody keeps Arzun on the pinnacle of glory, indeed that position was stolen from Karna. Even in the war of 'Kurukhetra' he was defeted by the deceived tactics. Seems like there is nothing wrong to use diry tricks against a lower caste.
The only thing is knowbody knew who Karna's father before his death which automatically through him as an untouchable lower caste.
 
Reply to thead "happy independence day in advance"

I already posted this message but they deleted it. They allow space to write good things about India but they deleted thread when there are questions?
What a hypocrisy? Sorry to post it again.
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Some of the following facts may be known t you. These facts were recently published in a German magazine, which deals with WORLD HISTOR FACTS ABOUT INDIA.

1. India never invaded any country in her last 1000 years of history.


Thanks for your elaborate knowledge about India. There are some questions, which I want to be answered. India was invaded and governed by many invaders from time to time and was enslaved for more than thousand years by Muslims; then by East India Company and then by the British. The British Empire governed the country for few centuries. How a country that was already invaded and ruled by the foreigners could have dreamt to conquer other countries?

A country which has no culture, tradition and heritage of its own which calls itself a secular country; when India assumed power from the British to rule on 15th August 1947. The lust of power was so much powerful in Nehru that they accepted the partition of India on religious grounds. One became Pakistan and other named by the British as Hindustan.

When British conquered India they made India from Hindu Kush to Malaysia and from Sri Lanka to Badrinath. This was the map of British India. British had seen the vast difference in culture and tradition of Burma so they separated it from India in 1935. Passport was not needed for the Indians to go anywhere in British Empire. China and Nepal were the only countries that enjoyed their sovereignty and was never under the British Empire in asian continent. This fact being Nepal a Gorkha Land that kept the glory of the region for being the only sovereign country which Nehru has also mentioned in his book Glimpses of India.

Where is the glorious heritage you mentioned about India? When and where it remains, is it still there in ruins of the past?

Kutubminar was built by Kutubuddin Aibuk a slave of Mohammad Gori. The slave dynasty was started by him. When Ahmed Shah Abdali invaded India he clearly mentioned that Indian people are born to be slaved, they have no guts to save their country thats why it should never remain independent. Have you read this part of the Indian history where a conqueror makes such a comment?

When British started to leave India due to Second World War when they lost great number of British people. British did not have enough manpower to control their empire. Second world war is the main factor in liberating all the colonies established by the British, Dutch, Portuguese, French etc. At that time British made an excuse and created a great mahatma to save their face who used to carry two sticks (girls) and wore dhoti without undergarments.

Gandhi opposed Subash Chandra Bosh, Bhagat Singh, Chandra Shekhar Azad etc. who fought for the independence of their motherland and sacrificed themselves. Why? India suffered greatest misery in the history when millions of people were butchered and made homeless for the lust of power of these so-called great leaders of India. Who said they liberated India? Is this not a joke and a disgrace?

If you have guts why you did not show the pictures of partition and bloody massacre in all over India and Pakistan. How the people suffered? Massacre, misery and sufferings by millions and millions of people unprecedented in the history of any nation, so far. The misery was even greater which the people in Japan faced in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Pakistan was created as the holy motherland for Muslims and Hindustan for Hindus; Nehrus lust for power forced and prayed Muslim leaders not to leave India and Nehru provided all the Muslim rights and protection for them, which is also an unprecedented example of democratic world. This is the root cause that until now Hindus are deprived to their holy places captured by the invaders who created mosques on them. India has more Muslim population than in Pakistan. This is one of the main reason which forces them to call themselves secular; British also tried to save the Christian population when they were leaving India and urged them to remain instead of taking them to UK. How can you say India is a democratic country when majority of the people have no say and rights to preserve their culture and tradition?

If you read the book written by the civil servants of India naming Smash and Grab , Inside the Raw etc, there are many books written on the same subject if you only search your own local library. It will tell you how Indira Gandhi conquered its smallest neighbor which was under its own protection.
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BIJAY
 
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