Had my N-336 interview today.

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No one will deny you over traffic tickets. The problem is the possession ticket, which has nothing to do with DMV. Depending on what state the ticket was issued in (I assume you were charged with simple possession), it could either be a misdemeanor or a violation. If it was a misdemeanor, then your appeal will likely be denied for non-disclosure of a criminal charge. If it was a violation, you may still be able to get approved.

Vorpal thank you for your positive answer! The court proof i provided them said the violation code for ticket 23222B(possession of marijuana) was reduced to an infraction also driving without a licence was reduced to an infraction when i went to court and i payed $450.00 in 2010. I live in CALIFORNIA.
 
No one will deny you over traffic tickets. The problem is the possession ticket, which has nothing to do with DMV. Depending on what state the ticket was issued in (I assume you were charged with simple possession), it could either be a misdemeanor or a violation. If it was a misdemeanor, then your appeal will likely be denied for non-disclosure of a criminal charge. If it was a violation, you may still be able to get approved.

Vorpal thank you for your positive answer! The court proof i provided them said the violation code for ticket 23222B(possession of marijuana) was reduced to an infraction also driving without a licence was reduced to an infraction when i went to court and i payed $450.00 in 2010. I live in CALIFORNIA.

One more question on my ticket the cop checked the misdemeanor box. Later when i appeared in court it was reduced to an infraction and the judge game me a 90 day period to pay the fine of $450.00 I payed it on Jan 10 2010. Do you think the uscis will look at that as a infraction or misdemeanor? when i went to my N-336 i gave them court proof saying that it was reduced to a infraction and the amount that was paid and the date it was paid and the violation code for that ticket in CA is 23222B.http://dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc23222.htm
 
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Does anyone know if this ticket would get me denied for not disclosing a criminal charge i was convicted of a infraction. I provided proof in my N-336 interview i gave them court proof saying that it was reduced to a infraction and the amount that was paid $450.00 and the date it was paid and the violation code for that ticket in CA is 23222B.http://dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc23222.htm When i got the denial letter of my N-400 it says i didn't provide court documents/ court probation or fines paid on ticket 23222A which is driving with open container of alcohol they wrote the wrong violation code in my letter do they take alcohol offences more seriously than marijuana? or it won't matter because it's drug related and is it possible that they will deny me again even tho i gave them court proof in my appeal interview on what happened i honestly forgot to bring it up in the N-400 interview thinking that it wasn't going to effect my chances of naturalization? This ticket is showing on my DMV driving history report and in my first interview uscis requested that and that's how they found out about it and denied me on failure to provide court documents court proof/ court probation or fines paid on ticket 23222A. I'm confused because they denied me for something i didn't do can they just have made an error and ment to write 23222B instead of 23222A they are two different violations A. is for alcohol and B. is for possession of marijuana?
 
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Lies during Naturalization are sufficient grounds for denial.

Does anyone know if this ticket would get me denied for not disclosing a criminal charge i was convicted of a infraction. I provided proof in my N-336 interview i gave them court proof saying that it was reduced to a infraction and the amount that was paid $450.00 and the date it was paid and the violation code for that ticket in CA is 23222B.http://dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc23222.htm When i got the denial letter of my N-400 it says i didn't provide court documents/ court probation or fines paid on ticket 23222A which is driving with open container of alcohol they wrote the wrong violation code in my letter do they take alcohol offences more seriously than marijuana? or it won't matter because it's drug related and is it possible that they will deny me again even tho i gave them court proof in my appeal interview on what happened i honestly forgot to bring it up in the N-400 interview thinking that it wasn't going to effect my chances of naturalization? This ticket is showing on my DMV driving history report and in my first interview uscis requested that and that's how they found out about it and denied me on failure to provide court documents court proof/ court probation or fines paid on ticket 23222A. I'm confused because they denied me for something i didn't do can they just have made an error and ment to write 23222B instead of 23222A they are two different violations A. is for alcohol and B. is for possession of marijuana?

You still don't understand the real reason for denial!

You failed to disclosed which equates to LYING! You got denied as a LIAR!

The ticket for your possession of marijauna would NOT have been enough to deny naturalization.

You screwed yourself by failing to disclose and being deemed a LIAR!
 
You still don't understand the real reason for denial!

You failed to disclosed which equates to LYING! You got denied as a LIAR!

The ticket for your possession of marijauna would NOT have been enough to deny naturalization.

You screwed yourself by failing to disclose and being deemed a LIAR!

Was there any way i could have overcame that in my N-336 or any documents i could have provided them? I honestly forgot to tell them and wasn't aware of all the uscis rules. If i knew about the rules i would have told them right away and why did they even bother to give me the right to appeal if there's nothing i can do i provided them with all the documents they would have wanted in the first place in my N-336 interview does that still make me a liar and failure to disclose denial for the second time?
 
If i knew about the rules i would have told them right away and why did they even bother to give me the right to appeal if there's nothing i can do....

You think it would be better if they just looked at your case and denied you the opportunity to appeal? Then what if they were wrong to block you from appealing?

In almost all cases, everybody is given the right to appeal. Then it's up to each applicant to look at the denial reason and the merits of the case and do the research to figure out the chances of winning an appeal, and then either accept the denial or appeal it. It would be a terrible injustice for USCIS to summarily decide that people can't appeal.

i provided them with all the documents they would have wanted in the first place in my N-336 interview does that still make me a liar and failure to disclose denial for the second time?
No, but you lied at the interview by failing to disclose the incident, and lying at the interview is grounds for denial, which isn't resolved by telling the truth later at the N-336 hearing. Now you have to wait 5 years after the interview date to reapply.
 
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Was there any way i could have overcame that in my N-336 or any documents i could have provided them? I honestly forgot to tell them and wasn't aware of all the uscis rules. If i knew about the rules i would have told them right away and why did they even bother to give me the right to appeal if there's nothing i can do i provided them with all the documents they would have wanted in the first place in my N-336 interview does that still make me a liar and failure to disclose denial for the second time?

Have you got any further mail after your N-336 interview ???. Be positive case may be approved. i would say 10-20% chance. Someone can take it as a honest mistake.
 
Have you got any further mail after your N-336 interview ???. Be positive case may be approved. i would say 10-20% chance. Someone can take it as a honest mistake.

I haven't received any mail after the interview, i was told by the officer that she could not come to a decision and had to forward my file to a supervisor for further review. I hope that the officer that reviews my file looks at it as an honest mistake but all the things that people on here are telling me i think i'm screwed and lied to them without knowing.
 
You think it would be better if they just looked at your case and denied you the opportunity to appeal? Then what if they were wrong to block you from appealing?

In almost all cases, everybody is given the right to appeal. Then it's up to each applicant to look at the denial reason and the merits of the case and do the research to figure out the chances of winning an appeal, and then either accept the denial or appeal it. It would be a terrible injustice for USCIS to summarily decide that people can't appeal.


No, but you lied at the interview by failing to disclose the incident, and lying at the interview is grounds for denial, which isn't resolved by telling the truth later at the N-336 hearing. Now you have to wait 5 years after the interview date to reapply.

Each naturalization applicant has a statutory right of appeal so USCIS is not legally allowed to deny anyone the right to file an appeal in accordance with law. The choice is the applicant's. Many are wasting their time and money when they have no chance of success however, the legal right to file will not be summarily denied.

http://www.slideshare.net/BigJoe5/hajro-v-barrett-uscissfr-n400-appeal-granted-3212012 Here is a case on topic---false testimony used as a basis for denial.This one is quite distinguishable from yours and in this court challenge the naturalization applicant won.
 
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Each naturalization applicant has a statutory right of appeal so USCIS is not legally allowed to deny anyone the right to file an appeal in accordance with law. The choice is the applicant's. Many are wasting their time and money when they have no chance of success however, the legal right to file will not be summarily denied.

http://www.slideshare.net/BigJoe5/hajro-v-barrett-uscissfr-n400-appeal-granted-3212012 Here is a case on topic---false testimony used as a basis for denial.This one is quite distinguishable from yours and in this court challenge then naturalization applicant won.

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Thanks man. Was this what it said exactly in his denial letter? "Plaintiff gave false testimony with the intent to obtain an immigration benefit and consequently lacked the good moral character required for naturalization". After his N-336 was denied i'm guessing he took it to the supreme court? im still reading it..
 
Would the case that he had be more serious/tougher to decide through a N-336 process rather than mine since mine is about my criminal back round or it doesn't matter because failure to disclose is failure to disclose no matter what the circumstances are? Sorry for the dumb question i'm still learning the rules and how they work.
 
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http://www.slideshare.net/BigJoe5/hajro-v-barrett-uscissfr-n400-appeal-granted-3212012 Was this case possible to get overturned in the N-336 process? or they barely overturn failure to disclose cases in the process of the N-336 and usually have to be taken up with the supreme court what was the exact reason his N-336 was denied? Would the case that he had be more serious/tougher to decide through a N-336 process rather than mine since mine is about my criminal back round or it doesn't matter because failure to disclose is failure to disclose no matter what the circumstances are even if drug related? Sorry for the dumb question i'm still learning the rules and how they work. I went on April 5th for my n-336 and it's been a whole month since and i have yet to receive a response any idea how much longer i will have to wait?
 
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Thanks to everyone for all the helpful advise. I got a letter from uscis yesterday stating my appeal was granted and i provided enough evidence and overcame the previous decision and i should be expecting a letter for oath in the mail.
 
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