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Some good news....but, FBI still screwing me ...

10/20/2005: Senate Judiciary Reportedly Approved Immigration Proposals

* We have already reported that Senate Judiciary Committee approved H-1B cap increase by 30,000 per year. However, other sources reported that the Committee had approved at today's hearing the following immigration bills:
* Included in the measure approved today are the following specifics:
o "Recapture" employment-based (green card) immigrant visa numbers that were available by statute but unused in previous years due to processing backlogs, and make them available again at a rate of up to 90,000 per year;
o Only employment-based immigrants, and not their spouses and children, would count toward the annual limit on employment-based immigration; and
o "Recapture" H-1B visa numbers that were available by statute but unused in previous years, and make them available again at a rate of up to 30,000 per year.
* For the release of the official reports, please stay tuned to this web site.

source immigration-law.com
 
This is a markup...not finalized yet

The Senate Judiciary Committee did mark up this bill. THis means that it has been approved and has now been sent to the Budget Committee for inclusion in the Budget bill. It will be approved hopefully this weekend.

Afterwards, a joint House-Senate committee will try to agree on the whole budget bill. This is where things may change; however there are good chances the conference will let it stand as this generates revenue and has nothing to do with illegal workers. After the conference committee approves it, it will essentially be sent to the President to be signed. At this moment, it will become law.

Please find the article below
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CQ TODAY – BUDGET: IMMIGRATION
Oct. 20, 2005 – 2:52 p.m.
Senate Judiciary Imposes Visa Fees, Exceeds Target for Budget Savings
By Michael Sandler, CQ Staff
The Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday debated two approaches to meeting its required budgetary savings target through visa fees, then agreed to a compromise that incorporates parts of both proposals.

The debate quickly turned into a horse-trading session as Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., led the way in meshing the original proposal by Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., with a substitute offered by Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.

The final version would:

• Raise the minimum fee for non-immigrant L-1 visas by $750, to a total of $1,440. Such visas allow businesses to temporarily transfer senior executives, managers and certain other specialized employees to the United States. The provision would generate an estimated $68 million a year over five years.

• Recapture hundreds of thousands of unused H-1B visas from previous years and reissue up to 30,000 a year with an added $500 fee. Those visas are reserved for highly skilled workers, often in engineering, computer technology and similar fields. The provision would generate an estimated $15 million a year over five years.

• Recapture and reissue unused immigrant work visas, or green cards, and increase the fee by $500. The provision would generate an estimated $30 million a year over five years.

Early staff assessments show the compromise would provide up to $113 million in fiscal 2006 and $565 million over five years. That would comfortably exceed the committee’s $300 million five-year savings target set by the fiscal 2006 budget resolution (H Con Res 95).

Feinstein’s compromise amendment was adopted by a vote of 10-5. The draft bill was then approved, 14-2. Democrats Richard J. Durbin of Illinois and Russell D. Feingold of Wisconsin voted against it.

An amendment offered by Orrin G. Hatch, R-Utah, that would have raised all immigration fees by 5 percent and generated $375 million over the five-year period was defeated, 6-11.

Senators directed the staff to polish the details of the new draft for submission to the Senate Budget Committee, which will include the measure in a broad reconciliation bill slated for markup next week.

Specter’s original proposal would have reclaimed all unused H-1B visas and reissued them with a new fee, while Sessions would have tracked a bill (HR 3648) approved by the House Judiciary Committee on Sept. 29 that would have increased fees for L-1 visas by $1,500.

Specter’s plan would have allowed the federal government to go back to October 1991 to recapture hundreds of thousands of unused H-1B visas, then reissue up to 60,000 of those visas a year with an additional $500 fee per visa. That would have generated $30 million a year.

Another $30 million a year would have been raised by reclaiming and reissuing unused green cards for professional workers going back to 2001, with an additional $500 fee per visa.

Feinstein’s compromise cut in half, to 30,000, the number of H-1B visas to be reissued each year. That would generate $15 million annually. The green card portion of Specter’s plan remained untouched in the final draft, a Specter aide said.

Feinstein also cut the proposed fee increase for L-1 visas to $750, which would generate an estimated $68 million a year, according to staff estimates. Session’s bid to raise fees on the L-1 visas by $1,500 failed, 6-11. Feinstein supported the bigger increase.

Feinstein said she had a problem with issuing thousands of new H-1B visas for highly skilled workers, many of them in the computer technology sector. She said that threatens American jobs, especially in tech-heavy California.

“I think we do our own people a disservice,” Feinstein said. “There’s been no hearing on this. No investigation. This is just a very controversial thing.”

Sessions agreed. “It’s not budget reconciliation. It’s a policy change,” he said. “As Sen. Feinstein said, what evidence is there that there is a crisis?”

Specter said that in many cases, the nation needs these workers. John Cornyn, R-Texas, supported him, saying that the H-1B visas available now are depleted in the first two months of the year.

“I would also say if we were training enough engineers, we wouldn’t need this,” Cornyn said.

Business organizations such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Information Technology Industry Council oppose the increased L-1 visa fee. The groups said it could discourage investment in the United States and complained that the money raised would not go toward speeding issuance of the visas. Employers currently can obtain accelerated processing of the visas by paying an additional $1,000 per worker.

Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., suggested the committee approve Specter’s proposal and let the conferees work out a compromise later on. But Feinstein decided to act immediately, offering her amendment on the fly and winning its adoption.

Source: CQ Today
Round-the-clock coverage of news from Capitol Hill.
 
Awesome!, any idea when the joint house-senate cocmmittee will meet?

Sc3
mar2004 said:
The Senate Judiciary Committee did mark up this bill. THis means that it has been approved and has now been sent to the Budget Committee for inclusion in the Budget bill. It will be approved hopefully this weekend.

Afterwards, a joint House-Senate committee will try to agree on the whole budget bill. This is where things may change; however there are good chances the conference will let it stand as this generates revenue and has nothing to do with illegal workers. After the conference committee approves it, it will essentially be sent to the President to be signed. At this moment, it will become law.

Please find the article below
_____________________

CQ TODAY – BUDGET: IMMIGRATION
Oct. 20, 2005 – 2:52 p.m.
Senate Judiciary Imposes Visa Fees, Exceeds Target for Budget Savings
By Michael Sandler, CQ Staff
The Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday debated two approaches to meeting its required budgetary savings target through visa fees, then agreed to a compromise that incorporates parts of both proposals.

The debate quickly turned into a horse-trading session as Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., led the way in meshing the original proposal by Judiciary Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., with a substitute offered by Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.

The final version would:

• Raise the minimum fee for non-immigrant L-1 visas by $750, to a total of $1,440. Such visas allow businesses to temporarily transfer senior executives, managers and certain other specialized employees to th
e United States. The provision would generate an estimated $68 million a year over five years.

• Recapture hundreds of thousands of unused H-1B visas from previous years and reissue up to 30,000 a year with an added $500 fee. Those visas are reserved for highly skilled workers, often in engineering, computer technology and similar fields. The provision would generate an estimated $15 million a year over five years.

• Recapture and reissue unused immigrant work visas, or green cards, and increase the fee by $500. The provision would generate an estimated $30 million a year over five years.

Early staff assessments show the compromise would provide up to $113 million in fiscal 2006 and $565 million over five years. That would comfortably exceed the committee’s $300 million five-year savings target set by the fiscal 2006 budget resolution (H Con Res 95).

Feinstein’s compromise amendment was adopted by a vote of 10-5. The draft bill was then approved, 14-2. Democrats Richard J. Durbin of Illinois and Russell D. Feingold of Wisconsin voted against it.

An amendment offered by Orrin G. Hatch, R-Utah, that would have raised all immigration fees by 5 percent and generated $375 million over the five-year period was defeated, 6-11.

Senators directed the staff to polish the details of the new draft for submission to the Senate Budget Committee, which will include the measure in a broad reconciliation bill slated for markup next week.

Specter’s original proposal would have reclaimed all unused H-1B visas and reissued them with a new fee, while Sessions would have tracked a bill (HR 3648) approved by the House Judiciary Committee on Sept. 29 that would have increased fees for L-1 visas by $1,500.

Specter’s plan would have allowed the federal government to go back to October 1991 to recapture hundreds of thousands of unused H-1B visas, then reissue up to 60,000 of those visas a year with an additional $500 fee per visa. That would have generated $30 million a year.

Another $30 million a year would have been raised by reclaiming and reissuing unused green cards for professional workers going back to 2001, with an additional $500 fee per visa.

Feinstein’s compromise cut in half, to 30,000, the number of H-1B visas to be reissued each year. That would generate $15 million annually. The green card portion of Specter’s plan remained untouched in the final draft, a Specter aide said.

Feinstein also cut the proposed fee increase for L-1 visas to $750, which would generate an estimated $68 million a year, according to staff estimates. Session’s bid to raise fees on the L-1 visas by $1,500 failed, 6-11. Feinstein supported the bigger increase.

Feinstein said she had a problem with issuing thousands of new H-1B visas for highly skilled workers, many of them in the computer technology sector. She said that threatens American jobs, especially in tech-heavy California.

“I think we do our own people a disservice,” Feinstein said. “There’s been no hearing on this. No investigation. This is just a very controversial thing.”

Sessions agreed. “It’s not budget reconciliation. It’s a policy change,” he said. “As Sen. Feinstein said, what evidence is there that there is a crisis?”

Specter said that in many cases, the nation needs these workers. John Cornyn, R-Texas, supported him, saying that the H-1B visas available now are depleted in the first two months of the year.

“I would also say if we were training enough engineers, we wouldn’t need this,” Cornyn said.

Business organizations such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Information Technology Industry Council oppose the increased L-1 visa fee. The groups said it could discourage investment in the United States and complained that the money raised would not go toward speeding issuance of the visas. Employers currently can obtain accelerated processing of the visas by paying an additional $1,000 per worker.

Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., suggested the committee approve Specter’s proposal and let the conferees work out a compromise later on. But Feinstein decided to act immediately, offering her amendment on the fly and winning its adoption.

Source: CQ Today
Round-the-clock coverage of news from Capitol Hill.
 
Still some more steps to go

This is good news. But there are still some steps to go:

The congress judiciary committe has to look at this (http://judiciary.house.gov/). Hopefully as there is more money involved they will go ahead and approve this.
This still needs to be voted in the house and senate.
 
How many years to go back to recapture unused visa # ? If left-over from the past years is not huge, this does not mean much. Does anyone have info how many visa# are floating from the past years ?
 
So far estimate was 90 thousand. I guess it all depends on how far back they will go. It will be a speculation in any case.
 
90000 ? That's it ?
If so, they hit the same problem again next year,
although derivative beneficiaries are not counted.
Currently 300,000 LCs are sitting in BEC and PERM creates more people flooding into I485 process very quickly. THese are all primary applicant.
 
Further News

Compete America Supports Senate Judiciary Committee Move to Provide Relief for Visa Shortage

Budget Measure Would Provide Interim Solution to H-1B and Green Card Crisis

Washington, D.C. - Compete America endorsed the Senate Judiciary Committee's approval today of a budget reconciliation measure that would provide interim relief from the current crisis-level shortage of H-1B and employment-based visas (green cards).

Compete America believes the package will give American employers temporary, but critical access to the talent needed for continued innovation, job creation and economic expansion in the worldwide economy, even thought the proposal was amended to halve the number of "recaptured" H-1B visas allowed per year. In addition, the measure would more than meet the full Judiciary Committee budget reconciliation obligation of $300 million over five years through increased license and applications fees.

"The relief provided by the Senate bill is a stop-gap measure necessary to ensure that the United States has the ability to attract and retain critical talent." said Sandra Boyd, Vice President, National Association of Manufacturers and Compete America Chair. "We are grateful to Chairman Specter and Ranking Member Leahy for their leadership in moving the Senate in the right direction on this issue. We look forward to working with the House towards adoption of a similar measure."

Among the specifics of the measure approved today, the following are critical to easing visa shortage, while raising significant Federal revenue:



o The measure would "recapture" employment-based (green card) immigrant visa numbers that were available by statute but unused in previous years due to processing backlogs, and make them available again at a rate of up to 90,000 per year;

o The measure would provide that only employment-based immigrants, and not their spouses and children, would count toward the annual limit on employment-based immigration; and

o It would "recapture" H-1B visa numbers that were available by statute but unused in previous years, and make them available again at a rate of up to 30,000 per year.
"At no time in our nation's history has the door been as closed to talent as it is today," said Lynn Shotwell, Executive Director of the American Council on International Personnel. "The H-1B visa quota for fiscal year 2006 was exhausted well before the new fiscal year even began, and there are years-long backlogs for green cards."

To illustrate the growing problem, Shotwell pointed to the fact that from 2001 to 2004, 141,365 employment-based third (EB-3) preference category visas were left unused - despite significant demand - due to processing delays at the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services.

"Relief is needed, and it's needed now," Shotwell concluded.

http://www.competeamerica.org/news/alliance_pr/20051020_visashort.html
 
Speculative Timeline

Please note that this is speculation: no one can predict the future.

The retrogression relief legislation is part of the FY 2006 budget legislation. Both Senate and House want to finish this ASAP. If the conference committee (joint House Senate Committee) goes well, the legislation may be ready before the Veterans Day recess in November. A more realistic outlook is that this will be sent to the President prior to the Thanksgiving recess as after Thanksgiving it will be Christmas and Congress will also be away for Christmas recess.

So, before the end of the year, this budget legislation will probably be signed by the President. :rolleyes:
 
mar2004 said:
Please note that this is speculation: no one can predict the future.

The retrogression relief legislation is part of the FY 2006 budget legislation. Both Senate and House want to finish this ASAP. If the conference committee (joint House Senate Committee) goes well, the legislation may be ready before the Veterans Day recess in November. A more realistic outlook is that this will be sent to the President prior to the Thanksgiving recess as after Thanksgiving it will be Christmas and Congress will also be away for Christmas recess.

So, before the end of the year, this budget legislation will probably be signed by the President. :rolleyes:

very good speculation. So this could be a thanks-giving turkey or X'mas gift :p
 
ragini_nj said:
It might move to mid 2003.

How did you come up with that number?
It would be great if it were true, but I thought I read it somewhere that there are hundreds of thousands of LCs that will be approved by DOL. Also, the 90000 will still have to abide by the rule of 7% per country (doens't it?) so you are only talking about 6300 per year (525 per month) (175 per category) for India and China, the two most affected countries.

It really is not much! :mad:
 
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GotPR? said:
90000 ? That's it ?
If so, they hit the same problem again next year,
although derivative beneficiaries are not counted.
Currently 300,000 LCs are sitting in BEC and PERM creates more people flooding into I485 process very quickly. THese are all primary applicant.

PERM people will also have a PD of April 1, 2005 or later.

The real concern are those who used labor substitution.
 
guys what does it mean by beneficiaries will not be part of the EB quota?

Does it mean that if I get approved only 1 visa number is counted even though my self and my wife gets GC. How or Where will my wife's visa number accounted for?
 
jambalakadi1 said:
guys what does it mean by beneficiaries will not be part of the EB quota?

Does it mean that if I get approved only 1 visa number is counted even though my self and my wife gets GC. How or Where will my wife's visa number accounted for?

Let's say you have a wife and 2 kids as your dependent applicants.
Previously, each of them eats up visa# and your whole family needs 4 visa#
including you. New bill suggests ONLY you who is primary applicant eats up visa#. Your other family member can get GC without their own visa#.
 
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