Good News: 4 year Citizenship on Track to become law

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Good news is that 4 year citizenship law was passed by Senate in April. It is included in the bill currently being debated in the Senate. Since it already
passed Senate vote, it will not require another re-vote. It is include din S.2611 Bill which also includes Amnesty for 20 million illegals.

So Senate will vote on entire bill next week and pass it hopefully. Then it goes
to the House-Senate Comittee to clear any differences. It is possible that House may discard all of the Senate Bill.

Or they may remove cerain provisions like 4 year citizenship or Guest Worker program etc. Cross your fingers people..Here is part of the S.2611 bill being debated:


2) FASTER CITIZENSHIP FOR ENGLISH FLUENCY- Section 316 (8 U.S.C.
1427) is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(g) A lawful permanent resident of the United States who
demonstrates English fluency, in accordance with regulations
prescribed by the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation
with the Secretary of State, will satisfy the residency requirement
under subsection (a) upon the completion of 4 years of continuous
legal residency in the United States.'.

(3) SAVINGS PROVISION- Nothing in this subsection shall be construed
to--

(A) modify the English language requirements for naturalization
under section 312(a)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8
U.S.C. 1423(a)(1)); or

(B) influence the naturalization test redesign process of the Office
of Citizenship (except for the requirement under subsection (h)(2)).


Here is the link: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?
d109:SN02611:
 
wantmygcnow said:
True but correct me if I am wrong..House introduced a similar bill last year.
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They did.

My own guess is that if this went to the floor as a stand alone measure there would be a majority for it. The problem is the amnesty provisions. There are determined elements within the Republican Party who want to kill this. Let us see how much is Bush willing to go to bat on this issue.
 
thankful said:
They did.

My own guess is that if this went to the floor as a stand alone measure there would be a majority for it. The problem is the amnesty provisions. There are determined elements within the Republican Party who want to kill this. Let us see how much is Bush willing to go to bat on this issue.
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There will at least be an attempt among Republicans to work out a deal. That is, all 435 members of the House (including of course the 232 Republicans) are up for re-election, but only 15 Republican Senators. It is considered a bit unsophisticated to assume that Republican Senators want a Republican House, but they DO have something in common.
 
Sorry I might sound negative. But I really doubt if this bill will be passed anyway: just imagine 20 million illegals will get their citizenship! I personally really doubt such kind of thing could happen.
 
if the illegals can get citizenship that easy, what about us the asylees that escaped from harm and not only for a better job ??
 
well I hope this law is not embedded into some "amnesty" law. I think priority should be given to people who came here legally and have waited many years to become residents and citizens. I don't think they're gonna grant citizenship to illegals. If anything they'd get work permits and then they'd have to wait behind the millions of other people in line. I hope this law passes. I'm tired of the RTD, and re-entry permits, not to mention getting visas and not being able to vote.
 
Hi All,

Long time no speak. :) I'm concerned about where this 'clause' is placed in the bill... It is currently listed under the Title VI - WORK AUTHORIZATION AND LEGALIZATION OF UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS - Subtitle D--Grant Programs to Assist Nonimmigrant Workers.... which is specifically there for the aid of undocumented persons.

Although the language of the clause is ambigous enough since it starts with "A lawful permanent resident of the United States", what is the guarantee that it will apply to all lawful PRs of the US?
 
LolaLi said:
Hi All,

Long time no speak. :) I'm concerned about where this 'clause' is placed in the bill... It is currently listed under the Title VI - WORK AUTHORIZATION AND LEGALIZATION OF UNDOCUMENTED INDIVIDUALS - Subtitle D--Grant Programs to Assist Nonimmigrant Workers.... which is specifically there for the aid of undocumented persons.

Although the language of the clause is ambigous enough since it starts with "A lawful permanent resident of the United States", what is the guarantee that it will apply to all lawful PRs of the US?
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Hey LolaLi,

Indeed long time no see. How have you been? It was a nice treat seeing your name (this is my first post in a long time).

Which version of the bill are you looking at?

But this point I would not worry about its placement yet. There will be drastic changes to this bill when it goes to conference.
 
Gilbert! Buddy! I think its more of a treat seeing your name these days. :D

I have been well. Focusing on moving along with life... Got my wife's I-130 approved (this is the least I can do for usurping her username LOL), am attending grad school, starting a family, AND anticipating the time when I can fill out the N-400. As you can see, I have been busy! :)

How have you been? What have you been up to? Its good to see you are perusing this forum - we may need your advice and input from time to time.

By the way - do you think these drastic changes will remove this clause? I hope not ... this could be a wonderful break for all PRs. What do you is think the success rate for this clause to remain in the bill?

Gilbert said:
Hey LolaLi,

Indeed long time no see. How have you been? It was a nice treat seeing your name (this is my first post in a long time).

Which version of the bill are you looking at?

But this point I would not worry about its placement yet. There will be drastic changes to this bill when it goes to conference.
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I am doing very well too. I just finished first year of grad school and I am getting ready to file for citizenship in a few months.

I think this provision is relatively uncontroversial and it has a good chance of being part of any final reform package. The bigger question is if the reform can pass the House.


LolaLi said:
Gilbert! Buddy! I think its more of a treat seeing your name these days. :D

I have been well. Focusing on moving along with life... Got my wife's I-130 approved (this is the least I can do for usurping her username LOL), am attending grad school, starting a family, AND anticipating the time when I can fill out the N-400. As you can see, I have been busy! :)

How have you been? What have you been up to? Its good to see you are perusing this forum - we may need your advice and input from time to time.

By the way - do you think these drastic changes will remove this clause? I hope not ... this could be a wonderful break for all PRs. What do you is think the success rate for this clause to remain in the bill?
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Hi,all

Gilbert,it`s been a long long time,hope u still remember me,just wanted to say hi to all ex and current asylees
also to let u know that i submited my N400 on 02/08/07. :D
 
Is it mean that people with asylum who lived here for 5-6 years and just get theirs Green Cards may apply for citizenship? Because the bill says that its required at least 4 years of legal residency, instead of Permanent Residency.
 
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Technically, for asylee the legal residency starts from the day asylum is approved and i believe that should be the date used for calculating 4 years of residency. I don't understand why asylees have to wait 4 years from date of GC.
Just like refugees can apply for citizenship after 5 years from the approval date.
I am some of the fortunate guys who got their GC in less than 5 years and i feel sorry for those who have been struggling for more than 10 years and have to wait another 5 years for citizenship. It sucks. We can only hope for the justice.
 
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