GC holder and Study Medical in India

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As many of you know Medical education in India is 4 yrs instead of 8 yrs in US. so many peoples who are NRI try to study medical in India.

If my son who is GC holder, who will have spent 3 yrs after GC permanently in US, goes for Medical education in India, can he maintain his GC if he come back before 6 months and try to use re-entry permits, whenever he can.

Any one with experience can explain, how it will affect GC maintainance and Naturalization. Can he finish naturalization in two years after starting study in India (because by that time he would have finished 5 yrs in GC and continuous residence requirement of 3 yrs total)

thanks
 
A long string of back-to-back trips can break continuous residence even if each trip is under 6 months. So don't count on traveling back to the US within every 6 months as a way to preserve eligibility for naturalization. He should expect to have to spend 4 or 5 years in the US after returning from India, in order to become a US citizen. Of course, he could still try to apply sooner and see what happens.

An Indian-trained doctor can't just work in the US right away. At least one or two years of hospital residency and/or medical study in the US will be required. Talk to other Indian doctors who have been through it.
 
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It will be very hard for you to preserve your residence for naturalization purposes. You can PM me to discuss further if you are interested.

Make sure that the degree from India is accepted by licensing board(s) in the state(s) in which you plan to practice.

Also nothing personal (and I am sorry if this kicks up a storm here) but personally I will not see a doctor who is trained outside the United States.
 
thankful said:
Also nothing personal (and I am sorry if this kicks up a storm here) but personally I will not see a doctor who is trained outside the United States.
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All doctors practicing in US are trained in US (this is required for license) either they got their medical degree from US or from outside US
 
Medical education in India is not 4 years after 12th grade, it is 51/2 years - 41/2 years plus one year of pre graduation internship. In practice it comes upto almost 6 years. There are 6 year integrated programs in the US but they are very competetive.

During these 51/2 years your child will have to live in India for most of the time and therefore will not be able to maintain permanent resident status.
 
I apologize for going off-topic here. But are there any threads where I could see pros & cons of doing medicine in India and returning to US? My kids are US citizens and I was wondering if it would be smarter to get them started early in medicine in India rather than have them spend 4 years doing unrelated stuff before going to medicine.
 
As a graduate of an american school (USMG) one would have a greater chance of getting into a residency program at a prestigious institution and in a high demand specialty. The time saved is not really significant, maybe 2 years.
If one is an American Citizen and attended a foreign school, the general (untrue)perception in the medical community is that that person did not get into an American school and therefore went abroad(i.e was not good enough).

IMO it would be est to try to get into an American school first and if it is not possible, try abroad
 
schandrag said:
As a graduate of an american school (USMG) one would have a greater chance of getting into a residency program at a prestigious institution and in a high demand specialty. The time saved is not really significant, maybe 2 years.
If one is an American Citizen and attended a foreign school, the general (untrue)perception in the medical community is that that person did not get into an American school and therefore went abroad(i.e was not good enough).

IMO it would be est to try to get into an American school first and if it is not possible, try abroad
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In India, one joins medical school after 12th grade whereas in US, (with some exceptions) one joins medical school only after 4 year college. Why should someone spend few 100 thousand dollars and 4 years studying something unrelated when alternatives are available?

Also issue of untrue perception, it would be if person went abroad after 4-year college. I don't think that perception will be there if one goes after 12th grade.
 
VidhiVidhan said:
I apologize for going off-topic here. But are there any threads where I could see pros & cons of doing medicine in India and returning to US? My kids are US citizens and I was wondering if it would be smarter to get them started early in medicine in India rather than have them spend 4 years doing unrelated stuff before going to medicine.
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Advantages
Cheaper (may be free)
• High quality education in most schools outside US (except Caribbean islands’ medical schools) compared to most US medical schools (Foreign graduate do better in practice in US compared to US graduates, with few exceptions here and there)
• 6 years pure medical education compared to almost 3 years only in US (theoretically 4 years which is not the case)

Disadvantages
• Less chance to get in good training program (some specialty almost restricted to US graduates with very high scores) (see why in next point)
• Different system of education overseas not built to meet the criteria for licensing exams in US (US graduates do better in exams compared to international graduates)

If we consider everything and from my own prospective and this is what I am going to advice my daughter to do; to get medical degree from overseas but engage in the US system by certain way or the other
• Studying many notes out there
• Answer many questions
• Enroll in any of the online or on site private classes to practice the way of the exams here to be familiar with the exam system in US
 
mmed said:
All doctors practicing in US are trained in US (this is required for license) either they got their medical degree from US or from outside US
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To amend my previous post to be more precise, I will not see a doctor who received his or her medical degree from a non- United States medical school. I have walked out of a medical office when I realized that the degree is from a Mexican school. And I know that I am not the only one person who would do that.
 
I am from Mumbai so my statements will reflect what I have observed in Mumbai and may not be true for medical colleges elsewhere in India. Also, I am now in US for 13 years so some things may have changed.

Advantages:

  1. Mumbai has 5 teaching public hospitals affiliated to Bombay University. These hospitals are free or almost free to general public. This brings whole lot of poor population to these hospitals thus giving the students tons of hands-on experience.
  2. Due to above, most toppers want to join public hospitals.
  3. Due to above, the best senior doctors in India want to be teachers in these colleges thus increasing their and hospital's prestige.
And the perpetual cycle continues. And US teaching medical schools must be very much aware of this.
 
mmed said:
Advantages
Cheaper (may be free)
• High quality education in most schools outside US (except Caribbean islands’ medical schools) compared to most US medical schools (Foreign graduate do better in practice in US compared to US graduates, with few exceptions here and there)
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Do you have anything to back this up?
 
I attended medical school in india and did my residency training in both India and the United States - in a university hospital setting and am now on the faculty of a medical school in the US. I would refrain from blanket statements about medical schools in and outside of the USA.
Yes the carribean schools that cater predominantly to Americans are of poor quality. However there are really good schools in the carribean too - where the locals study. Same for Mexico .

Even within the USA, Allopathic schools are generally more rigorous than the osteopathic ones ( there will always be exeptions).

It makes no sense to not see a physician based on where he/she obtained their medical degree. All physicians practising in the uSA have to complete a residency program in the USA.
 
VidhiVidhan said:
In India, one joins medical school after 12th grade whereas in US, (with some exceptions) one joins medical school only after 4 year college. Why should someone spend few 100 thousand dollars and 4 years studying something unrelated when alternatives are available?

Also issue of untrue perception, it would be if person went abroad after 4-year college. I don't think that perception will be there if one goes after 12th grade.
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schandrag, you are just the person I wanted feedback from. Can you please try to answer my questions above?

Thanks in advance
 
vidhi vidhan

In my personal opinion it would be a lot better for your kids to study medicine in the USA. Every specialty would be open, it is very hard for a foreign graduate to get into certain residency programs(dermatology, ENT for example). Moreover, at age 18 the kid may not know what they really want to do in life , after college the young adult is better poised to make career decisions.

This is my personal opinion, it may reflect my own bias.
 
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I know i am going off the topic but i always wanted to ask someone about this...
my sister is a green card holder, and she is doing medicine in india, she is done and doing her internship which is required by her school, so how would she able to come back here and practice in US. she used to come to united states every 6-7 months to keep her green card valid but she doesnt know what are the steps to get into US school??? if some one can help,, it would be really appreciated
 
rpate34 said:
I know i am going off the topic but i always wanted to ask someone about this...
my sister is a green card holder, and she is doing medicine in india, she is done and doing her internship which is required by her school, so how would she able to come back here and practice in US. she used to come to united states every 6-7 months to keep her green card valid but she doesnt know what are the steps to get into US school??? if some one can help,, it would be really appreciated
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She can explore more www.forums.studentdoctor.net
 
Can you explain more about her GC situation

rpate34 said:
I know i am going off the topic but i always wanted to ask someone about this...
my sister is a green card holder, and she is doing medicine in india, she is done and doing her internship which is required by her school, so how would she able to come back here and practice in US. she used to come to united states every 6-7 months to keep her green card valid but she doesnt know what are the steps to get into US school??? if some one can help,, it would be really appreciated
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Hi

I just want to know that your sister was GC holder from Day one she started Medical study? Or she got GC some time in the Middle of her medical shool study in India so she decided to complete there?

Also if started from Day-1 of his med school as GC holder and than maintained her GC over last five years just by coming here every 6/7 month for a week or two in US. If she able to do that without any problem for almost five year?

I would like to know above answer at that can help lot of us who are thinking of doing med school in India as GC holder.

Really appreciate your detailed answer to above questions.
 
Jackolantern said:
A long string of back-to-back trips can break continuous residence even if each trip is under 6 months. So don't count on traveling back to the US within every 6 months as a way to preserve eligibility for naturalization. He should expect to have to spend 4 or 5 years in the US after returning from India, in order to become a US citizen. Of course, he could still try to apply sooner and see what happens.

An Indian-trained doctor can't just work in the US right away. At least one or two years of hospital residency and/or medical study in the US will be required. Talk to other Indian doctors who have been through it.
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Such is the case for anyone even the one's who studied in the US.
 
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