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Foreign Changeability

Joecool123 said:
I did go to elementary school in Hong Kong, so is that record good enough? on top of that, my mom also found the Hospital record of where I was born. On the comment section of the record, it says "No medical Coverage, just visiting. To be billed". So is that good enough?
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No-one here can say whether anything is good enough. Take it all.
(To state the obvious, a hospital is not a border inspection agency - hospitals get given fake info all the time. For elementary school, if your parents were in the UK for 5 years after you were born then went back to HK to school you, that 5 years is still not "temporary". Your main proof will still be your mum's passport with entry and exit dates/entry stamp for HK. I hope you have it after all this time.)
 
SusieQQQ said:
No-one here can say whether anything is good enough. Take it all.
(To state the obvious, a hospital is not a border inspection agency - hospitals get given fake info all the time. For elementary school, if your parents were in the UK for 5 years after you were born then went back to HK to school you, that 5 years is still not "temporary". Your main proof will still be your mum's passport with entry and exit dates/entry stamp for HK. I hope you have it after all this time.)
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For the hospital record, I dont see why mom would lie and say shes not a resident of the country and have to pay for the medical bill. So I think thats a good arguing point.
 
Britsimon said:
You seem to be revealing details as we pull them out. This is your case - we are not judging or whatever. But you were born in the UK. You now live in the UK. At some point in between you at least ended up in the UK - and your complete school history will factor into whether you were resident (and by intimation) your parents were resident. So - by all means have all that ready to go. The link posted earlier is an excellent example of how you will need to prove things...
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In my case, I returned to Hong Kong right after birth, and I stayed there until elementary school graduation. after that, I moved to UK for high school, and I was living with my uncle. My parents ever came.
 
My experience last year taught me that if there's any doubt over your ability to prove your case, or if you don't fall into one of the nice, neat categories that the majority of people do, then you've just got to be prepared to take a bit of a gamble.

In saying that, you need to be prepared and to have every last document that you can possibly get your hands on. In my case, I'm sure it helped that I had looked up the law and was able to cite various manuals and cases. I even pointed out to the case officer that I only had to prove my case 'on the preponderance of the evidence.'

I can only think that my preparation in that sense helped my case in that it convinced her not only that I knew what I was doing but that I had convinced myself that I was eligible. I'm not saying that convinced her necessarily, but it's hard to argue with someone who's making a coherent case for themselves, especially when the consular officer presumably isn't actually looking for reasons to turn you down.
 
2014hopeful said:
My experience last year taught me that if there's any doubt over your ability to prove your case, or if you don't fall into one of the nice, neat categories that the majority of people do, then you've just got to be prepared to take a bit of a gamble.

In saying that, you need to be prepared and to have every last document that you can possibly get your hands on. In my case, I'm sure it helped that I had looked up the law and was able to cite various manuals and cases. I even pointed out to the case officer that I only had to prove my case 'on the preponderance of the evidence.'

I can only think that my preparation in that sense helped my case in that it convinced her not only that I knew what I was doing but that I had convinced myself that I was eligible. I'm not saying that convinced her necessarily, but it's hard to argue with someone who's making a coherent case for themselves, especially when the consular officer presumably isn't actually looking for reasons to turn you down.
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Very true!!
 
2014hopeful said:
My experience last year taught me that if there's any doubt over your ability to prove your case, or if you don't fall into one of the nice, neat categories that the majority of people do, then you've just got to be prepared to take a bit of a gamble.

In saying that, you need to be prepared and to have every last document that you can possibly get your hands on. In my case, I'm sure it helped that I had looked up the law and was able to cite various manuals and cases. I even pointed out to the case officer that I only had to prove my case 'on the preponderance of the evidence.'

I can only think that my preparation in that sense helped my case in that it convinced her not only that I knew what I was doing but that I had convinced myself that I was eligible. I'm not saying that convinced her necessarily, but it's hard to argue with someone who's making a coherent case for themselves, especially when the consular officer presumably isn't actually looking for reasons to turn you down.
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this is very helpful, thanks. I will gather as much documents as possible before the interview. thanks
 
2014hopeful said:
I can only think that my preparation in that sense helped my case in that it convinced her not only that I knew what I was doing but that I had convinced myself that I was eligible. I'm not saying that convinced her necessarily, but it's hard to argue with someone who's making a coherent case for themselves, especially when the consular officer presumably isn't actually looking for reasons to turn you down.
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Absolutely right!
 
I just remember that Hong Kong was a british colony before 1997, so if I use my mother's place of birth Hong Kong, does it considered to be the UK which will make me ineligible?
 
I think Hong Kong was still a sovereign state before 1997, so her birth place should be fine?
 
Joecool123 said:
I just remember that Hong Kong was a british colony before 1997, so if I use my mother's place of birth Hong Kong, does it considered to be the UK which will make me ineligible?
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I'm really beginning to wonder if you read the rules before you submitted... the instructions have the full list of eligible countries and regions (hint hint), the answer is in there.
 
SusieQQQ said:
I'm really beginning to wonder if you read the rules before you submitted... the instructions have the full list of eligible countries and regions (hint hint), the answer is in there.
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Ya I saw HK is eligible, but before 1997 HK belongs to the Brits, so I just wondering if my mom is considered to be born in the UK.
 
Joecool123 said:
Ya I saw HK is eligible, but before 1997 HK belongs to the Brits, so I just wondering if my mom is considered to be born in the UK.
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No - HK was a British dependent territory which was under "British Administration" until 1997. Just because we administered it, does not mean it was "ours" - so you Mum is fine.
 
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