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Checking with FR is much more complicated operation than checking creation date or exact match for a file. Less complicated operations are always done first
 
what is FR anyway?
& by the way, is anfe80 safe? or since he's been using the same picture than last year he might be in trouble?
just hope i am wrong
raevsky said:
Checking with FR is much more complicated operation than checking creation date or exact match for a file. Less complicated operations are always done first
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Pizarro said:
And what if you scanned an old picture? The date is put into the JPGE file generated by the scanner....

You can take a 2 years old paper picture and scann it today...the JPEG file created has todays date....and this is legal as far as their instructions that let you to scan pictures...
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I am just telling what I've hear, they say 6 months old.. so if you scaned this picture less than 6 months ago, its birth date will be less than 6 months so might be ok but if scaned last year... good luck
 
You might be right but this picture thing is well thrown off by scanning anything with recent date as one said. I might as well lose the chances of winning is too low anyway and I've been loser for 6 years with very recent pictures taken by photographer spending a few bobs on this. I still believe the whole scanning process of entries is done before selection including pictures plus I dont think they are checking them one by one they should have a few program with certain criteria to run through on the entire entry.
 
FR is facial recognition.
I do not know how deep they check that 6 month requirement. It is definitely possible to figure out whether both images come from the same original. But it might take 24 hours per each year. And might require some manual involvement.
 
Yes but they can not tell if a photo is old or not by simply using facial recognition.
I mean, I submit just 1 entry with a 5 year old pic, they won't tell by simply using facial recognition so i think they add something else
raevsky said:
FR is facial recognition.
I do not know how deep they check that 6 month requirement. It is definitely possible to figure out whether both images come from the same original. But it might take 24 hours per each year. And might require some manual involvement.
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If that is the first picture you submitted to them, they will not be able to figure that out before the interview. At the interview the consul might notice that. There were denials before when the DV photo was the same as in passport that was issued more than 6 months before the period of submission. Also, if the photo is the way too old, the consul could just notice that fact.
 
Also take into account that the date put into the JPEG files when using a digital camera is determined by the date setup in the camera itself;

Who doesn't have a digital camera or video recorder which date is not update? Mine is set to Jan 1 2004 because I forgot to update it after reseting the batteries...

My point is that not all the photographers have their cameras updated to reflect the updated date....so if this was crucial I think the DV RULES should clearly askf for this to make sure that all the applicants are asking to their photographers to have their cameras updated...
 
Date in the file does not mean much on it's own, because it could easily be corrected by software.
 
got a point there.
Me i took the picture the day I submited my entry, just checked the "birth date" & it says october 5th
Pizarro said:
Also take into account that the date put into the JPEG files when using a digital camera is determined by the date setup in the camera itself;

Who doesn't have a digital camera or video recorder which date is not update? Mine is set to Jan 1 2004 because I forgot to update it after reseting the batteries...

My point is that not all the photographers have their cameras updated to reflect the updated date....so if this was crucial I think the DV RULES should clearly askf for this to make sure that all the applicants are asking to their photographers to have their cameras updated...
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Well, how could they know if a picture is more than 6 months old? because after 25, peoples do not change at all in such short period of time... they might have a way to check it because 6 month is very short
raevsky said:
Date in the file does not mean much on it's own, because it could easily be corrected by software.
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All I know is I can usually figure out the age by looking at a person, within 2-3 years tolerance. I am not the only one who can do that. The same would be true about a photograph
 
I must tell you something guys, I think, Date of Creation is a problem itself, you can't see it until you click on "Advanced" in the picture properties.

In addition, a friend of mine, we studied togheter in the high school, he got his DV Lottery on 2010 and he's now in NY, he submitted the same picture that he used on all the DV Lottery Entries (DV2008-DV2009-DV2010) he's lucky that he didn't changed a lot, he remained the same :D

In their website i read this, they said that you have to be recognize the time on the interview from the picture you submitted UNLESS you did a medical surgery that changed your look.

That's it, you only have to be the same of the picture you submitted, so don't change the color of your hair, and don't do an "optional" surgery on your face unless it's necessary.

I wish you a good luck
 
@jayo2k: I don't agree with you about Date of Creation, I, myself, did changed the date of creation :D it was just removed.
 
@jayo2k: Don't forget 1 thing, most of people don't know how to change the date or how to remove the date of creation at all. Only few who will think about this and do it.
 
I really dot think they care.. as long as it's clearly you. At interview time, when you go.. if its clearly different they may raise questions. But in the end, you need to submit *more* pics to KCC anyway.
 
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