Feb 2006 visa bulletin

friendcool...no one will be out of retro.....but yes....you can expect better movement with china eb2...since not many people would have converted from eb3 to eb2...(frankly speaking i do not know much about distribution of chinese workers in different categories....neither i am aware of their strength, so you should not rely on my comments too much)

i can say that PD of EB2-india-aug 2003 can take 1-2 years to become current...
 
techy2468 said:
friendcool...no one will be out of retro.....but yes....you can expect better movement with china eb2...since not many people would have converted from eb3 to eb2...(frankly speaking i do not know much about distribution of chinese workers in different categories....neither i am aware of their strength, so you should not rely on my comments too much)

i can say that PD of EB2-india-aug 2003 can take 1-2 years to become current...

Sorry, I am EB2-China-aug 2003
 
how about eb-2 for indians,do you think it will move quicker like china eb-2 by 1 yr hence forth.any chance that we can get out of retrogression soon,may by end of this year?
 
Relaxing 7% limit for EB2 India and China - DOS is doing correctly?

EB2 visa numbers for rest of the world have been "current" in first two quarter of the fiscal year. However, India and China was deeply retogressed compare to "current" for rest of the world. This means EB2 visas are undersubscribed. I think lot of visas in EB2 catagory are unused. AC21 law says (see below), if visas are unused in any calender quarter, it should be given to oversubscribing countries like India and China in that calender quarter. I doubt whether DOS considered this law before advancing the cutoff dates for India and China in EB2 catagory. The unused numbers should have been released in December. If the unused numbers are included in the calculation, the cutoff date for India and China may move by years not by months, because rest of the world still shows current. I doubt the DOS procedure in setting the visa cutoff dates, because both EB2 and EB3 for India has been moving uniformly by 7 months. Because the cutoff date for rest of the world in EB3(April 2001) and EB2 (current), has huge difference, the advancement in the cutoff dates for India in EB2 and EB3 should not be in uniform.

SEC. 104. LIMITATION ON PER COUNTRY CEILING WITH RESPECT TO EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS.
(a) SPECIAL RULES- Section 202(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C.1152(a)) is amended by adding at the end the following new paragraph:
“(5) RULES FOR EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS-
“(A) EMPLOYMENT-BASED IMMIGRANTS NOT SUBJECT TO PER COUNTRY LIMITATION IF ADDITIONAL VISAS AVAILABLE- If the total number of visas available under paragraph (1), (2), (3), (4), or (5) of section 203(b) for a calendar quarter exceeds the number of qualified immigrants who may otherwise be issued such visas, the visas made available under that paragraph shall be issued without regard to the numerical limitation under paragraph (2) of this subsection during the remainder of the calendar quarter.
 
Can- Card you are the man!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know if you know hindi or not but lots of
puppia and jhappias to you. I was looking for this segment and I had moved earth and heaven to find it. So this settels the question, the unused number within the category will first go to over subscribed country.

Now can you post referenc to what you have said. Any links??

rgds,
akela
 
so it means that as rest of the world eb-2 is current,their unused visas can be alloted for over subscribed countries like india ,china.do you think indian eb-2 will come out of this retro soon?any inputs pls?
 
i think left over visas from undersubscribed categories....are given to oversubscribed countries.........over there they are divided as per the 28.6% rule between EB1, EB2 & EB3.... and within india-EB1, EB2 if there are any unused visas they are given to EB3-India.

I do not think leftover visas (scrap :D) from EB2 world goes only to EB2 same with EB1..............the reason i am assuming this is becos EB1-india/china has retrogressed while EB1-world is always going to remain current (there is not much visas used in these categories).

EB1-india/ has retrogressed because whatever visas india/china they get from under-subscribed quotas they are divided as per the 28.6% rule.....not given to EB1.
 
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Reading all these it seems like there are really BAD Days FOR EB3 for retrogressed countries :confused: :confused: , Unless something should really work out for us folks in Feb when congress meets.
 
www.immigrationvoice.org

Gc_Maine2 said:
Reading all these it seems like there are really BAD Days FOR EB3 for retrogressed countries :confused: :confused: , Unless something should really work out for us folks in Feb when congress meets.

To overcome this problem, I request each and everyone of you to contribute on <www.immigrationvoice.org>. People like you and me have started this effort to put together a coordinated and disciplined strategy in a sincere attempt to end retrogression.

Please don't expect for things to work out in our favor automatically. Unless we do something about this, we will be only able to dream about a Green Card, never actually see it.

WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE GUYS AND GALS.
 
Guys,

EB2 people should not encourage much and EB3 should not discourage.
Please try to concentrate on Immigration Relief bill. Some of our friends did wonderful job and created common platform in amazing short time; www.immigrationvoice.org

I would urge every one to actively join as a volunteer and give financial contribution as much as you can. For united efforts, we need $$. We dont have time. Please communicate to all your friends to atleast contribute financially to immigrationvoice

Believe me, very few lawmakers are aginst legal immigrants (yes, many are against illegal immigrants). We only need united, systamatic, and professional approach to make sure appropriate language included in the Immigration Reform bill and get it pass.





Gc_Maine2 said:
Reading all these it seems like there are really BAD Days FOR EB3 for retrogressed countries :confused: :confused: , Unless something should really work out for us folks in Feb when congress meets.
 
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china eb-2 has moved by 1 yr.will eb-2 for india too advance?when will dates be current if p.d is dec 2005?
 
Some Further analysis and prediction

This is what happened: After the scandal of the last quarter of FY 2005, when no EB 3 visas were available, the state department realized they did not pay much attention to what went on with the employment categories, as they were all current for quite some time. It was really unfair that a lot of people with later PDs got their GC whereas people with earlier PDs were left behind. As a precationary messure, and to prevent such "injustices" from happening again, they decided to take the PDs WAY back. It appears that the state department doesn't really know how many people are in the line from each priority date. It's all based on estimates (According to the EB paragraph in the bulletin). So the way it works is after each time they publish a PD they wait and see what kind of demand they get. the October bulletin had 1/1/98 for EB3 india. They probably got like 2 applications (I'm just guessing), and figured - we were probably a little off on that... Let's move it forward. This happened through the February bulletin. They don't realize that most applications are from 2001 and forward, but they are very aware of the 4/30/01 245i deadline.

What will happen: India is likely to catch up with the rest of the world within the next two months, when the state department realizes that there is still not too much demand for visas, even with the recent progress. (Except Mexico). Now, say for example many people filed their labor in the last week of April, and many of these were recently cleared by the LC backlog center. Since these guys can't even file 485, there will still not be any demand for visa numbers. So there will be some forward progress.

So my prediction for the March bulletin is that Mexico will remain sometime in March 2001, India will get even closer to the rest of the world, which will move to April 30, 2001.

After that, the state department will realize again that while there is increased demand, it's mostly from Mexico. USCIS will still not process all the applications it just received with PD of April 2001, so there will still be lack of demand. Therefore, I predict significant progress in PDs at least until the June 2006 bulletin. After that it may start retrogressing again as the demand levels will start to increase.

Good Luck to all of us.
 
While optimism is good, try to grasp the severity

alkumar said:
Good news. It has progressed.

How do you guys find the VB even before it is shown as published under current VB even on their official web -site ?

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1360.html

Was just curious. Last time (for Jan 06), I came to know from this forum 3 days before it was shown as current on their web-site.

WHAT USE IF YOU GET LC AND EVEN I-485? It will be years for EB3s
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For those with I-140 approved and awaiting to apply I-485:
While optimism is good, don't forget that all illegal aliens who
have been staying in this country for more than 10 years before
2000, were granted a chance to regularize and apply for adjustment
of status. I believe close to one million such applications were
filed and under processing. Unfortunately they are billed as skilled
workers and clubbed with EB3, skilled and emploment based.
So, don't expect eb3 based priority numbers to move to say somewhere
near end of 2001, is a near impossibility. It could take upto 4
years to get there, even for those holding PD of Dec 2001. Good luck
with your efforts.
 
ziv711 said:
This is what happened: After the scandal of the last quarter of FY 2005, when no EB 3 visas were available, the state department realized they did not pay much attention to what went on with the employment categories, as they were all current for quite some time. It was really unfair that a lot of people with later PDs got their GC whereas people with earlier PDs were left behind. As a precationary messure, and to prevent such "injustices" from happening again, they decided to take the PDs WAY back. It appears that the state department doesn't really know how many people are in the line from each priority date. ......
Good Luck to all of us.

I hope you are not under an illusion. I am serious. Do you how many illegal aliens applied from one Indian state from North East. You know the state. Still, there is a huge problem coming.

Please join other forums. Contribute money to able organizers. Make noise. Write letter to your associations to help meet senators and congressmen. Quote other good posts. Get organized.
I saw this beautiful exposition of our plight and what is to come in the next few years. I know many of you may fee this is a DBEC forum for LC. We have seen for the past 2 and 1/2 years how this LC business is progressing. Some posts are valid pointers, but many are just queries, questions to other members.

Directly or indirectly, each one of us must get behind the efforts of other able persons, who are organizing opinions, arranging voluntary activism. Please read this post to understand the gravity of the I-485 issue. Write letters to editors, talk to immigration people / HR people in the company, and participate actively in discussion boards with good leads, examples of articles.

http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/s...php?t=34&page=2

Any comments are welcome.
 
Illegal Aliens are skilled and legal EB3s are ...

sgms said:
Why would 245(i) take out EB3 numbers? So illegal immigrations belong to the same category a EB3?

Yes, I understand they are skilled and EB3 is professional.
 
This is a bunch of BS

It's crazy...we waited for 3 yrs for our labor crap...2 yrs for INS now another 2 yrs for state department...tell you what, it's a bunch of BS...
This whole process promotes illegal immigration for god's sake... :mad:
 
Please write constructive words and partcipate ..

kaveh2006 said:
It's crazy...we waited for 3 yrs for our labor crap...2 yrs for INS now another 2 yrs for state department...tell you what, it's a bunch of BS...
This whole process promotes illegal immigration for god's sake... :mad:

Please write constructive words and partcipate actively (directly or indirectly). Voicing frustration alone will not help further our cause. From your post I didn't understand what are you cursing about.

The companies, employers, immigration attorneys don't care where the retrogression numbers are. You have a genuine concern. Spread it wisely to your colleagues in this forum, to other forums, contribute a small amount of money to people who are organizing, meeting congressmen and senators. I hope you will view these suggestions in the correct spirit.
 
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