Fasten your Seat Belts, you are going back Home after LPR.

mkhursh

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Bringslite wrote: This is open debate, and I think instead of assuming things we need to get a lawyer’s opinion on this matter. My 2 cents would be that when someone ADJUSTS, it means he/she is no longer asylees, rather a PR!

Well, there is nothing wrong with the first paragraph. We are all entitled to debate over any issue for a positive outcome. MY 2 cents raises a “RED FLAG” ADJUSTING status to LPR does not mean the country you sought Political Asylum against would become a save heaven for you.

For God sake, don’t make a fool out of yourself and stop assuming that the USCIS is filled with dead brains.

Now, DesertRose50 you stated that this issue has been on for a long time. I have not been a member for long so I concur. What is so complex about “no one is really sure whether you can go back to your home country when the condition in our home country has improved……….”.

You have demonstrated great deal of compassion for your “HOME COUNTRY”. You are concerned about going back to your “HOME COUTRY” given if the country condition has improved. Are you going back for GOOD? There must have been miraculous changes in country condition of the individuals who recently received Green Card.

I am appalled by your following comments (you don’t think that INS “USCIS” can just easily take off your PR status just because you return “HOME” for a visit”…. You have built strong ties with this country (U.S), you have jobs, and you have kids born here, paid taxes, paid mortgages and so on).

I will begin from the later part of your comment, so on points to infinity, I wonder what so on consist! … You are paying mortgage because you bought a house. You have to pay mortgage, if you don’t you will be foreclosed. You are paying taxes, excellent. If you are not going to pay taxes, while working legally in the United States of America, I.R.S will eventually get you for tax evasion. You next bath and cozy bed will be behind bar in Federal Penitentiary.

Your kids were born here… Wonderful. It was only possible when you chose to engage in the process of human extension. Their birthplace wouldn’t be the (U.S.A) otherwise. Lets talk about “we have jobs”. Did you expected to be on welfare when you entered U.S.A? Most people in the U.S work, if you are holding a job you are not doing any favor to anyone but yourself.

We have built strong ties, you sounded like a lame politician from back “HOME”. You should have been a designated diplomat of “HOME TIMBUKTU” and established strong ties with the (U.S.A) rather than holding a job, making babies, paying taxes, paying mortgage, and so on.

What do you really think of the U.S.A and its habitants are unclear to me. You have not accepted and embraced (U.S.A) as your legitimate “HOME”. You think of this country as a save heaven or sanctuary, where you can migrate, lay eggs, feed of the resources transfer funds to build mansion back home, not realizing that your very survival in “HOME TIMBUKTU” had been impossible.

Talk about the humanitarian reasons, seriously ill parents or something extraordinary in the family. You will pass through the same ports to enter “HOME TIMBUKTU”, face the same officials, which were on your tail. I am wondering how they would treat you? Perhaps it was lack of Green Card that prompted persecution to begin with. Since you will be a Green Card holder, they will forget past grievance, kiss your hand and you will be “COMPADRE”once again.

DesertrRose, I noticed that you have not received your Green Card yet, however you are way ahead in your plans to visit “BACK HOME”.

I feel like pulling all of my hair out, it is simply outrageous. What do you people think of yourselves? Are you the only smart individuals and rest of the people, agencies and establishments that runs this country are “DUMB”?

Give up your twisted ways of living; make life easier for yourself and your future generation. Be thankful, to the people of (U.S.A) adapt and embrace this land of opportunity as your “REAL HOME”, be a law abiding residence, you'd be better - off. ;)
 
Unless you are a lawyer, you need not give any legal advise! You can only give a personal opinion (i.e. your 2 pennies)!
 
It is not simply he said she said. The reasoning is illogical, misleading, adjustment of status to LPR, paying taxes, having babies does not automatically improves contry condition of the persecuted, paving way for them to to visit "HOME TIMBUKTU" soon after the LPR.

I don't understand, why the U.S congress does not abolish all of the other programs of migration, simplify the Immigration law to one catagory. Hopefuly, there won't be any need of F1, H1, B1 and etc. Only viable way to enter U.S.A, would be Political Presecution and eventual grant of Political Asylum.

U.S.A, then would be a better place, no accountability for anyone. Everything would be "HUNKY DORY" and "OOLALA HOME TIMBUKTU".
 
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Mkhursh..Listen I am with you. I was the one who said that anyone who goes back to their home country after LPR should be "HANGED"...Mind you that comment was just a frustration I get when somoene says I want to go back home..

The fact of the matter is that there is no law that says YOU CANNOT go back home..so you will turn blue arguing and they will still say It doesnt' say it anywhere...
 
wantmygcnow said:
Mkhursh..Listen I am with you. I was the one who said that anyone who goes back to their home country after LPR should be "HANGED"...Mind you that comment was just a frustration I get when somoene says I want to go back home..

The fact of the matter is that there is no law that says YOU CANNOT go back home..so you will turn blue arguing and they will still say It doesnt' say it anywhere...


You are a moron. What makes the difference if you can go home after or before becoming a USC. The point is that if you fear going back home then you will still fear after you become a USC. So they just should hang you. Your ignorance amazes me.
 
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mkhursh said:
It is not simply he said she said. The reasoning is illogical, misleading, adjustment of status to LPR, paying taxes, having babies does not automatically improves contry conditionof the persecuted, paving way for them to to visit "HOME TIMBUKTU" soon after the LPR.

I don't understand, why the U.S congress does not abolish all of the other programs of migration, simplify the Immigration law to one catagory. Hopefuly, there won't be any need of F1, H1, B1 and etc. Only viable way to enter U.S.A, would be Political Presecution and eventual grant of Political Asylum.

U.S.A, then would be a better place, no accountability for anyone. Everything would be "HUNKY DORY" and "OOLALA HOME TIMBUKTU".


I wish there were more geniuses like you in this country. The conditions in every country changes, that does not mean that you can never go back.
 
mkhursh said:
Bringslite wrote: This is open debate, and I think instead of assuming things we need to get a lawyer’s opinion on this matter. My 2 cents would be that when someone ADJUSTS, it means he/she is no longer asylees, rather a PR!

Well, there is nothing wrong with the first paragraph. We are all entitled to debate over any issue for a positive outcome. MY 2 cents raises a “RED FLAG” ADJUSTING status to LPR does not mean the country you sought Political Asylum against would become a save heaven for you.

For God sake, don’t make a fool out of yourself and stop assuming that the USCIS is filled with dead brains.

Now, DesertRose50 you stated that this issue has been on for a long time. I have not been a member for long so I concur. What is so complex about “no one is really sure whether you can go back to your home country when the condition in our home country has improved……….”.

You have demonstrated great deal of compassion for your “HOME COUNTRY”. You are concerned about going back to your “HOME COUTRY” given if the country condition has improved. Are you going back for GOOD? There must have been miraculous changes in country condition of the individuals who recently received Green Card.

I am appalled by your following comments (you don’t think that INS “USCIS” can just easily take off your PR status just because you return “HOME” for a visit”…. You have built strong ties with this country (U.S), you have jobs, and you have kids born here, paid taxes, paid mortgages and so on).

I will begin from the later part of your comment, so on points to infinity, I wonder what so on consist! … You are paying mortgage because you bought a house. You have to pay mortgage, if you don’t you will be foreclosed. You are paying taxes, excellent. If you are not going to pay taxes, while working legally in the United States of America, I.R.S will eventually get you for tax evasion. You next bath and cozy bed will be behind bar in Federal Penitentiary.

Your kids were born here… Wonderful. It was only possible when you chose to engage in the process of human extension. Their birthplace wouldn’t be the (U.S.A) otherwise. Lets talk about “we have jobs”. Did you expected to be on welfare when you entered U.S.A? Most people in the U.S work, if you are holding a job you are not doing any favor to anyone but yourself.

We have built strong ties, you sounded like a lame politician from back “HOME”. You should have been a designated diplomat of “HOME TIMBUKTU” and established strong ties with the (U.S.A) rather than holding a job, making babies, paying taxes, paying mortgage, and so on.

What do you really think of the U.S.A and its habitants are unclear to me. You have not accepted and embraced (U.S.A) as your legitimate “HOME”. You think of this country as a save heaven or sanctuary, where you can migrate, lay eggs, feed of the resources transfer funds to build mansion back home, not realizing that your very survival in “HOME TIMBUKTU” had been impossible.

Talk about the humanitarian reasons, seriously ill parents or something extraordinary in the family. You will pass through the same ports to enter “HOME TIMBUKTU”, face the same officials, which were on your tail. I am wondering how they would treat you? Perhaps it was lack of Green Card that prompted persecution to begin with. Since you will be a Green Card holder, they will forget past grievance, kiss your hand and you will be “COMPADRE”once again.

DesertrRose, I noticed that you have not received your Green Card yet, however you are way ahead in your plans to visit “BACK HOME”.

I feel like pulling all of my hair out, it is simply outrageous. What do you people think of yourselves? Are you the only smart individuals and rest of the people, agencies and establishments that runs this country are “DUMB”?

Give up your twisted ways of living; make life easier for yourself and your future generation. Be thankful, to the people of (U.S.A) adapt and embrace this land of opportunity as your “REAL HOME”, be a law abiding residence, you'd be better - off. ;)
I really like this ride ....though seat belt only is not enough ... need full racing protection helmet and five point straps... :D :D
 
Getmygcnow,

I think I added fuel to fire. Bringslite and DesertRose55’s posting sends out disturbing message, which reminded me of another posting on this forum. INS revoked individual’s GC he/she obtained after grant of asylum. When he/she applied for Naturalization, was asked to justify multiple visits to “BACK HOME”.

I am glad you agree with me, I’d be glad even if you didn’t agree with me. I specifically mentioned about Barbara Hine’s private practice, when I needed legal advise, with few other issues including RTD and visit to the Bahamas. I think I am talking about a very credible personality. Click the link just to see whom I am talking about. http://www.utexas.edu/law/faculty/profile.php?id=Bhines

I spent more than 2 cents to get the legal advise and trying to pass on my opinion to those who’d like to make a decision. I never claimed to be an attorney, guess Bringslite and DesertRose55 expect their every day life routine (taxes, mortgage, babies) a precursor to supersede accountability.

They don’t want to spend 3 cents for such an important decision. They are proud of their mortgage, taxes and babies then leave “BACK HOME TIMBUKTU” why are you seeking such important information from this forum. What do you think; offices of Mr. Khanna should stop from making a living and dish out online free for all immigration clinic.

Stop this garbage of established strong ties, you and I have not done any favor by coming to the U.S.A. We are nobody important than others who probably pay thousands more in taxes, mortgage. Why should you and I be treated any different by the authorities when it comes to traveling “HOME TIMBUKTU) soon after getting LPR or Citizenship?


Bringslite and DeserRose55, your argument is absolutely morbid and I am having fun.
 
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Rose50,

I did not realize that you will be livid! You don't have to scream, I am not going to apologise. Are you out of your mind? What terrible thing did I do to all of you?

Read your post, it might refresh your memory, I just took a shot at your's and Bringslit's post.

As far as my mental health is concern, I am sound. Don't need any therapy. Perhaps you ran our of vocablary, didn't expect you to tuck your tail between your legs and take off.

Are you familiar with the term "Economic Migrants"? ;)
 
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Well i am not ignorant. I think every asylee no matter what..would want to go back to their HOME country sometimes in their life. Even though I hate my home country..ONCE in my lifetime I WOULD like to go back...every asylee does.

I am not here to judge anyone or anybody. The point is very simple..In this country, the great land of U.S.A, usually people are used to make an example..For instance, a person is deported because he overstayed 1 day..then rest of the entries are scrutinized that way..

I know that in the mid 1990's, Immigration officers had stereotypes about asylees and certain asylees from certain countries wer considered "FAKE" even if their claim were legit...

So Yes go back to your home country.But Beware, If you have to, take caution with everything..immigration to your life...

BUT...PLEASE do not make it harder for asylees..as it is already.

That is the point and thats it.
 
Wantmygcnow,

If you look at my posts, you would realize I don’t like naming names. That would be impractical and shallow.

I am not going to defend my comments, I’m not withdrawing a word if it. When it comes to the term asylee, I think of every one in the same predicament, once I found myself. I never thought I’d bring up graphic details.

Does anyone in the right frame of mind would think about going back “HOME” where expression of political view would to lead to sodomy by a stick coated with peppers? Is there any justification for extra judicial killings of one’s colleagues by the “HOME” Government machinery?
Do you condone killing of a pregnant women laying naked out in the street, eaten by stray dogs, with her abdomen cut open and a beheaded fetus next to her?

Perhaps, none of the above has anything to do with those who would like to go back “HOME”. Most likely, their country conditions were not as brutal as, where I came from. Maybe, that’s the reason they would like to go back “HOME” once in a life time. I am not going back, not now, not ever. I am stateless and I wonder how my case would be adjudicated?

I am not fighting a war; I just tried to extend my honest opinion, which was countered with misleading rubbish. I don’t like to hear about people’s misfortunes and sufferings; it saddens me to the extremes. I also know how tough it is to obtain fair and effective legal advise at an affordable price.

Best Regards,
MK
 
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When they concluded that you lied to obtain asylum, your "strong ties" to the US have zero bearing.


mkhursh said:
Wantmygcnow,

If you look at my posts, you would realize I don’t like naming names. That would be impractical and shallow.

I am not going to defend my comments, I’m not withdrawing a word if it. When it comes to the term asylee, I think of every one in the same predicament, once I found myself. I never thought I’d bring up graphic details.

Does anyone in the right frame of mind would think about going back “HOME” where expression of political view would to lead to sodomy by a stick coated with peppers? Is there any justification for extra judicial killings of one’s colleagues by the “HOME” Government machinery?
Do you condone killing of a pregnant women laying naked out in the street, eaten by stray dogs, with her abdomen cut open and a beheaded fetus next to her?

Perhaps, none of the above has anything to do with those who would like to go back “HOME”. Most likely, their country conditions were not as brutal as, where I came from. Maybe, that’s the reason they would like to back “HOME” once in a life time. I am not going back, not now, not ever. I am stateless and I wonder how my case would be adjudicated?

I am not fighting a war; I just tried to extend my honest opinion, which was countered with misleading rubbish. I don’t like to hear about people’s misfortunes and sufferings; it saddens me to the extremes. I also know how tough it is to obtain fair and effective legal advise at an affordable price.

Best Regards,
MK
 
MK, YOu also have to be a realist. I used to think that NO MATTER what ASYLEE can never go back...but to eat my own words here..some members on this forum did make good points..for instance, Nazi germany isn't the same now..so any jew who was persecuted during nazi germany shouldnt go back now?...

I think my opinions have changed as to an ASYLEE should only go back if he is a U.S Citizen OR if it is an emergency that he can prove to the USCIS...
 
Wantmygcnow,

Any reports of human suffering, regardless of their status and place of residence are agonizing. I decided to dissect Bringslite and DesertRose50’s comments, cause they responded to an important issue, with illogical justifications.

It’s your call, you may think that you were smacked in face by your own words. Conditions of Jews in the pre WWII era are one of the saddest realities however, do you think they planned trips back to Germany while their LPR's were being processed?

I Google, could not find anything, stumbled upon the following for your perusal:
http://www.jdo.org/zundel.htm
http://www.freep.com/news/locmac/nazi3_20030703.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3410747.stm

You’d ask, my point? It is simple, one can get away for only so long. We are all entitled to change our opinion, I also recall part of U.SA’s law stating if there is clear indication of improved country condition, asylum can be terminated.

I escaped because I was incarcerated, humiliated, tortured. I am not afraid of dying but I expect biological death. I don’t want to vegetate and die in Jail for expressing my political view. What I feared then, I fear now. Forces of evil and suppression would care less even if I entered “HOME TIMBUKTU” as a Citizen of U.S.A.

FYI, since the end of WWII Germany has changed, it is part of G8. My former “HOME TIMBUKTU” is not part of G8. I wonder which country Bringslite, DesertRose50 and proponents of going back “HOME TIMBUTU” belong to?
 
Imprtant: For those who are missing DesertRose50's comments.

DesertRose50 retracted his/her commetns. Can't figure male or female! The CAPS statement:

YOU NEED TO APOLOGIZE THAT YOU DID TERRIBLE THING TO ALL OF US. i DIDNT SENT DISTURBING MESSAGE!. I THINK YOU ARE MENTALLY DISTURBED! YOU NEED TO SEEK A MENTAL THERAPY FOR YOUR DAMAGED BRAIN

END OF DISCUSSION!.

FREE OF SPEECH!.

DesertRose50,

I got a copy of your post, I'll be happyto scan it, if you dispute the above. You deleted your "mortgage, children, job, tax and strong ties rant too). You chicken, should have held your ground. People like you make me sick. :eek: :eek:
 
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U know what. I don't hate country of my origin because I was born and spent many years there. My parents, friends, and relatives still live there. I hate the government and the president but I don't associate the country only with them. And I hope that once I'll be able to visit it after things change. And God... I think many people in this forum hypocritical and cruel. Guys, did you learn anything from what happened to your countries?
 
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