F1 visa rejected once (2 sisters in U.S.), applying again

msb2of4

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I happened to come across your site when surfing the net and found it to be very informative and useful. Keep it up!

I hope you guys can come up with some good advice for my brother. I thank you in advance for your time.

His F1 visa got rejected on July 7th. The VO (a lady) asked some questions about the schools that he had applied to (gave the details). She also asked him what his father did (told her that he is retired), she then asked about his siblings (told her that he had 2 sisters (one in H4 status and the other in H1 status) in the U.S. and a brother settled in India). She then asked him if his sisters had applied for green card, he said he was not sure. After she heard this, the VO rejected his visa in the 214(b) category. She did not even look at any of his documents.

Was it wrong to have said that he had siblings in the U.S.? He didn't want to lie.

He has got an appointment for a second interview on July 25th. What should he do different this time? Any suggestions/advices will be greatly appreciated.

He is thinking of writing a one page covering letter basically containing the following -
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Educational Qualification – B.E. in Automotive Engg. (2004)
Merits – Univeristy Ranker (3rd), 1st in my college.

TOEFL – 267/300
GRE – 1340/1600 (Verbal – 610/800 and Quantitative – 730/800)

Applied for M.S. in Mechanical Engg. (with specialization in Automotive) to 5 universities – Clemson Univ., Univ. Of Texas, Wayne State Univ., Oakland Univ., Penn State Univ.

Got admission at 2 univesities – Clemson Univ., SC (ranking – ) and Oakland Univ., MI (ranking - )

Want to join Clemson Univ. (2 year course, their fees is $28,000 for a year).

Intention – To get a M.S. degree in Automotive/Mechanical Engg. I feel atleast a M.S. degree is required to survive in today’s competitive environment. To pursue this in my field, there are only a few universities in India and U.S. universities offer excellent courses and good training. I believe, this training will be very useful to me and I would be able to get a job very easily when I return to India. Like my father and brother, I intend to start my own business some day.

Father – retired businessman. Mother – housewife. Parents own property worth – INR 20lakhs. Father’s savings account has – INR 14lakhs

Have secured a bank loan from an Indian bank for the 2nd year in the amount of INR 8lakhs.

Sister – B.E. in Electronics Engg. – housewife – currently living in U.S. (H4 visa). First went to U.S. on a H4 visa in 1998, returned to India in 2002 (her husband had completed 6 years on a H1 visa and had not applied for a green card). She lived in India for 2 years and she went back to U.S. in Oct 2004 (again on a H4 visa). Not applied for green card.

Sister – B.E. in Electronics Engg.– married – currently working in U.S. (H1 visa). First went to U.S. on a H1 visa in 1999, green card processing going on, currently in labor processing (stage 1).

Brother – M.E. in Construction Engg. – married – owns a Construction Business in Bombay.

I think my visa got rejected the first time because I had truthfully mentioned that my sisters are in the U.S. Please don’t punish me for being honest, I humbly request you to please re-consider my case.
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Is this letter good enough?
Should anything more be added or removed from the letter?
Does it contain too much details or too little?
Any other tips?

If possible, please reply at the earliest. Thank you very much.
 
msb2of4 said:
I happened to come across your site when surfing the net and found it to be very informative and useful. Keep it up!

I hope you guys can come up with some good advice for my brother. I thank you in advance for your time.

His F1 visa got rejected on July 7th. The VO (a lady) asked some questions about the schools that he had applied to (gave the details). She also asked him what his father did (told her that he is retired), she then asked about his siblings (told her that he had 2 sisters (one in H4 status and the other in H1 status) in the U.S. and a brother settled in India). She then asked him if his sisters had applied for green card, he said he was not sure. After she heard this, the VO rejected his visa in the 214(b) category. She did not even look at any of his documents.

Was it wrong to have said that he had siblings in the U.S.? He didn't want to lie.

He has got an appointment for a second interview on July 25th. What should he do different this time? Any suggestions/advices will be greatly appreciated.

He is thinking of writing a one page covering letter basically containing the following -
-----------------------------------
Educational Qualification – B.E. in Automotive Engg. (2004)
Merits – Univeristy Ranker (3rd), 1st in my college.

TOEFL – 267/300
GRE – 1340/1600 (Verbal – 610/800 and Quantitative – 730/800)

Applied for M.S. in Mechanical Engg. (with specialization in Automotive) to 5 universities – Clemson Univ., Univ. Of Texas, Wayne State Univ., Oakland Univ., Penn State Univ.

Got admission at 2 univesities – Clemson Univ., SC (ranking – ) and Oakland Univ., MI (ranking - )

Want to join Clemson Univ. (2 year course, their fees is $28,000 for a year).

Intention – To get a M.S. degree in Automotive/Mechanical Engg. I feel atleast a M.S. degree is required to survive in today’s competitive environment. To pursue this in my field, there are only a few universities in India and U.S. universities offer excellent courses and good training. I believe, this training will be very useful to me and I would be able to get a job very easily when I return to India. Like my father and brother, I intend to start my own business some day.

Father – retired businessman. Mother – housewife. Parents own property worth – INR 20lakhs. Father’s savings account has – INR 14lakhs

Have secured a bank loan from an Indian bank for the 2nd year in the amount of INR 8lakhs.

Sister – B.E. in Electronics Engg. – housewife – currently living in U.S. (H4 visa). First went to U.S. on a H4 visa in 1998, returned to India in 2002 (her husband had completed 6 years on a H1 visa and had not applied for a green card). She lived in India for 2 years and she went back to U.S. in Oct 2004 (again on a H4 visa). Not applied for green card.

Sister – B.E. in Electronics Engg.– married – currently working in U.S. (H1 visa). First went to U.S. on a H1 visa in 1999, green card processing going on, currently in labor processing (stage 1).

Brother – M.E. in Construction Engg. – married – owns a Construction Business in Bombay.

I think my visa got rejected the first time because I had truthfully mentioned that my sisters are in the U.S. Please don’t punish me for being honest, I humbly request you to please re-consider my case.
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Is this letter good enough?
Should anything more be added or removed from the letter?
Does it contain too much details or too little?
Any other tips?

If possible, please reply at the earliest. Thank you very much.

If Senior Counsel is patience enough to read this letter, he has better chance to get his F1 approved.
 
hope he got the visa

The letter was honest and direct. Did your brother get his visa at his second attempt? I have a brother in the same situation. Let me know.

Thanks
Ranga
 
My sister is applying on 14th August, she is also in the same condition. I am holding an H1 visa and parents and other younger brother having Green Card. Brother got it in Child Status protection Act.

Best of Luck! Please do post your experience.
 
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I dont understand this..!

I'm not trying to sound rude but you want the embassy to provide the visa based on honesty. Yet when the officer asked the applicant if his sisters had applied for green card the answer was that he didn't know? How would this sit well with the senior counsel? Is claiming ignorance the same as honesty?
Good luck anyways..
 
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My friend is also in a similar scenario...

His parents are in the US and his sister also is in the US and his F1 visa application got rejected.

The Visa Officer asked if someone has filed for his immigration petition. He said NO - because his immigration petition was NOT filed directly. But, seems like the visa officer saw his names along with his parents file (filed by his uncle years ago). He was over 21 when his parents came to US and he was not considered.

Does having parents in the US - dis-qualify you from attempt on getting further education? What should the pesron do to satisfy the visa officer - he wants to study - period
 
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You are right... he was rejected again. Now, he might want to try to pursue his studies somewhere else.

Seems like those who have family (especially parents) in US, might be in a tough position to get a student visa.
 
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