DV Based AOS - Self Process vs Using Legal Services

[SusieQQQ]

Let me straighten you out here: this person could go with the one who thinks it's possible to adjust (because those lawyer are the ones who obviously think he has a chance) and talk to them, figure it out, decide whether to hire them or not, and move forward or not.

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So the person will go with the lawyer who tells them what they want to hear. And the lawyer will of course use enough legalese and proof of their experience with general immigration issues to convince them that they should be hired.

I'm kind of surprised you don't see the problem with this argument,but sure yeah, if the person has money to spend to educate a lawyer on DV that's probably the way to go.

PS: this forum is not the only Internet resource on DV. You yourself said you expect the person to do "research" before deciding to hire a layer. Now you seem offended at a suggestion that they should have found something on the net? Where did you expect them to do this research, in the library of congress?

 

[Velcan]

It doesn't seem to me like neither you nor your friend have a clue as to what the process is all about, and I'm skeptical about believing the story as told.

When did your friend approach the FO with the mind of processing "faster than usual"? Was his CN current? Had he submitted his I-485 with all the required documents including the medical exam, or he was simply making an initial inquiry? Which fee did he make? The DV administrative fee or the AOS fee? And if he was simply making an inquiry and they "told him to wait just like any other H1-visa holder", even if told rudely, I don't see anything in whatever he needed to say that could have led to being "arrested for misdemeanor in a government building" because he obviously had no clue as to what the process is to start with!

I don't see how anyone who has paid the DV administrative fee, completed the medical exam, paid the AOS fee, filed the I-485 would get to a certain stage about enquiry as to the need to complete the process in a "faster than usual way" would now give up on the dream of replacing their H1 visa status with GC. It's mind boggling that someone working in the US on a H1 visa wasn't smart enough to do some online research on what to do (which doesn't even include hiring a lawyer) simply gave up on a dream that everyone on a temporary status would give an arm and a leg for all because he feared being deported. Something doesn't sound right here!

I shared the info he gave me.
If that's not enough, that's not really my problem, he told me he "paid around 300$ and had sent a few forms" don't ask me what forms or what the fee was, because I don't know.

Anyway, my point is, we shouldn't generalize things. There's no one size fits all in immigration, and thinking that there is is wrong.

 

[Sm1smom]

I shared the info he gave me.
If that's not enough, that's not really my problem, he told me he "paid around 300$ and had sent a few forms" don't ask me what forms or what the fee was, because I don't know.

Anyway, my point is, we shouldn't generalize things. There's no one size fits all in immigration, and thinking that there is is wrong.

Precisely the point I was trying to make! Someone told you a half story, and you're running with it, making the basis of your argument. You don't have the details, you don't know anything about the AOS process so it doesn't make any sense to me that your argument is based on that.

The point Susie and Simon were trying to pass across to you which unfortunately is leading to a long winded argument (which is precisely why I moved the posts from the AOS thread where they originally started from by the way) is the fact that most immigration lawyers do not have a clear understanding of the DV based AOS process, even though the process is simple enough such that lay people like us in this and other online forums can better guide people. It's a process anyone who bothers to carry out the needed research can complete on their own without the need to pay some exorbitant fees to a lawyer who is well versed in other AOS cases outside of the DV ones - assuming the person does not have other personal issues with their stay which can complicate the process.

I don't see why I should have to retain a lawyer, do additional research on my own and provide it as ammunition for the lawyer to use in fighting my battle on my behalf when the lawyer is supposed to be the 'learned' authority in this case just like one of your posts suggested, doesn't make sense! It's not a case of one size fits all, what's being said is that most DV based AOS cases are simple and straight forward enough without requiring the service of an immigration lawyer!

 

[Britsimon]

OMG - I go out for a couple of hours and come back to find this still going on. Velcan - why are you banging on about this? Are you a lawyer by any chance? Everyone is free to hire or not hire a lawyer. Obviously! However, the three people who are expressing an opinion that you cannot agree with actually have real experience of DV and AoS and have watched many cases where lawyers have added no value, or actually made things worse. Your argument is from a 2nd hand comment that doesn't ring true at all.

So - what is your basis for any of your comments?? Have you even been through the AoS process?