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DV 2022 OC Selectees

Britsimon said:
OC600 versus OC2400 where the higher case number got processed first
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Hi Simon, Echoing Syd2022 - we all really appreciate your time!

What I was trying to flag today is that, based on this forum it seems that myself (OC600s) and (OC2400's) received the docs request email the same week, I actually think I got mine a few days earlier. Having already submitted docs I did then submit again. A few weeks later the 2400's case was then DQ'd but not mine.

I understand the subject line, sorting and inbox clearing logic. I was really just flagging this scenario - as per your explanation of inboxes being cleared it would make sense, but with both cases in the inbox at the same time it doesn't align with the logic of the sorting.

Regardless, trying to have patience, not overthink and am patiently waiting for DQ! Have a nice night!
 
First of all, big big thank you to BritSimon for making this easier to understand, without his guidance I think it would be a nightmare to guess how it works.



My case number is OC9XXX, already submitted DS260 and also preparing documents to submit early as suggested by BritSimon.


Couple of question.


What are my chances at OC9XXX

If this does not work and that I have already submitted DS260, have I screwed up my chances for any future non-immigrant visa (work/student)?

Can I apply again for 2023 just in case?

In the example that BritSimon gave for document naming convention it went like this CaseNumberwith0s_FirstName_LastName. If I have a middle name can I go CN0_Fname_Mname_Lname?
 
Ryanscr said:
Hi there, I'm from OC and I got my DQ email last week. About 3 weeks after submitting my docs (which were requested by KCC)
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Ryanscr said:
It's super weird, I don't think there's any rhyme or reason as to how this is done condidering how high my CN is. I know of some people who's CN is current and they haven't even been asked for docs.
My case number is 24XX and I submitted my DS260 at the start of June.
Doc request start of August.
DQ about 3 weeks later.
Just be patient, the one good thing you and quite a few others have going for you is that your case number is super low and you're basically guaranteed to become current - I'm not, so even though I may be DQ nice and early, it mightn't mean anything in the end. We'll see what happens next year..
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Ryan,

As has been pointed out your case seems a bit odd. I'd like to find out what caused you to go through DS260 and docs screening fast.

I understand you are a previous winner (3 times in a row???), so you presumably had been screened before. That is unusual and I wonder if that helped them rush your documents. I just can't imagine their systems are that smart though.

1. The other thing I thought of was your document email. What (precisely) was the subject line you used when you sent the documents?
2. You have an OC number - right? 2022OC24XX.
3. And your case is single applicant, with a simple travel and work history?

Love to see your answers on the above.

The only other thing that I wonder is the division of labor at kcc documents. It might be that they split the inbox based on region, and in that case OC (and SA) could experience a different result simply because there are far fewer responses in the "OC inbox" if such a thing exists.

Kate - similar questions to you - but wondering if there is anything that would have slowed your case processing (travel, work, applicants, unusual documents).
 
DV2022OC said:
First of all, big big thank you to BritSimon for making this easier to understand, without his guidance I think it would be a nightmare to guess how it works.



My case number is OC9XXX, already submitted DS260 and also preparing documents to submit early as suggested by BritSimon.


Couple of question.


What are my chances at OC9XXX

If this does not work and that I have already submitted DS260, have I screwed up my chances for any future non-immigrant visa (work/student)?

Can I apply again for 2023 just in case?

In the example that BritSimon gave for document naming convention it went like this CaseNumberwith0s_FirstName_LastName. If I have a middle name can I go CN0_Fname_Mname_Lname?
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Do you mean 9xx?
 
DV2022OC said:
First of all, big big thank you to BritSimon for making this easier to understand, without his guidance I think it would be a nightmare to guess how it works.
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Just re-posting as I previously written OC9XXX instead please read it as OC9XX.
DV2022OC said:
My case number is OC9XX, already submitted DS260 and also preparing documents to submit early as suggested by BritSimon.

Couple of question.
What are my chances at OC9XX?
If this does not work and that I have already submitted DS260, have I screwed up my chances for any future non-immigrant visa (work/student)?
Can I apply again for 2023 just in case?
In the example that BritSimon gave for document naming convention it went like this CaseNumberwith0s_FirstName_LastName. If I have a middle name can I go CN0_Fname_Mname_Lname
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Britsimon said:
Ryan,

As has been pointed out your case seems a bit odd. I'd like to find out what caused you to go through DS260 and docs screening fast.

I understand you are a previous winner (3 times in a row???), so you presumably had been screened before. That is unusual and I wonder if that helped them rush your documents. I just can't imagine their systems are that smart though.

1. The other thing I thought of was your document email. What (precisely) was the subject line you used when you sent the documents?
2. You have an OC number - right? 2022OC24XX.
3. And your case is single applicant, with a simple travel and work history?

Love to see your answers on the above.

The only other thing that I wonder is the division of labor at kcc documents. It might be that they split the inbox based on region, and in that case OC (and SA) could experience a different result simply because there are far fewer responses in the "OC inbox" if such a thing exists.

Kate - similar questions to you - but wondering if there is anything that would have slowed your case processing (travel, work, applicants, unusual documents).
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Hey Simon,
Doc email subject line exactly as instructed - 2022OC000006XX
We are couple, first time winners, minimal(?) travel history (only US/UK/Singapore/Japan/Vietnam in last 5 years)
The only thing that may have delayed on the doc processing side is that my ds260 was finally unlocked (and resubmitted) the same week as doc request email, with an amendment that required an additional document to be sent (note that this document had been included every time I sent docs, just needed updating on the form).
Not sure if document processing team have a list of documents to check when they receive the file/case? Or if they only cross reference the documents required with the ds260 form as they are reviewing.
 
Hi Everyone,
I have gone through the 17 pages of comments to try and collate the data for OC we have so far to help everyone out. If you have any updates to the information i have below could you please let me know so that I can update the document. We are all here to help each other.

OCunder100 (Melb22)
OC2xx DS260 submitted 11th may documents submitted w/o request June 29 (Syd2022)
OC2xx - (AussieBrit)
OC2xx (C&R)
OC2xx DS260 submitted 18th June ; Docs submitted 3rd July (Rfiji)
OC3xx DS260 mid may (JPaus)
OC300 (Nilram)
OC4xx DS260 submitted docs sent August (jessie@fj)
OC4xx Doc request received August 10th (Lukearosa)
OC6xx DS submitted May, Doc Req Aug 10th docs sent August (AusOC)
OC8xx (kplo)
OC900 DS260 submitted – docs being prepared for submssion(DV2022OC)
OC10xx DS260 submitted 10th may, document request 13th August (Slip)
OC11xx – DS260 submitted July 2021 (travellingrolo)
OC12xx DS260 submitted May (Going Abroad)
OC13xx (TPNewZealand)
OC15xx DS260 submitted 7th June (Sil2022)
OC16xx DS260 9th May Doc Request received August 10th (RK22)
OC20xx DS260 submitted June (Getmeoutahere)
OC21xx (AussieDV22)
OC 2200 (JayQue)
OC24xx DS260 submitted early June Doc Request received Aug 13th DQ September (Ryanscr)
OC24xx (NY9)
 
Syd2022 said:
Hi Everyone,
I have gone through the 17 pages of comments to try and collate the data for OC we have so far to help everyone out. If you have any updates to the information i have below could you please let me know so that I can update the document. We are all here to help each other.

OCunder100 (Melb22)
OC2xx DS260 submitted 11th may documents submitted w/o request June 29 (Syd2022)
OC2xx - (AussieBrit)
OC2xx (C&R)
OC2xx DS260 submitted 18th June ; Docs submitted 3rd July (Rfiji)
OC3xx DS260 mid may (JPaus)
OC300 (Nilram)
OC4xx DS260 submitted docs sent August (jessie@fj)
OC4xx Doc request received August 10th (Lukearosa)
OC6xx DS submitted May, Doc Req Aug 10th docs sent August (AusOC)
OC8xx (kplo)
OC900 DS260 submitted – docs being prepared for submssion(DV2022OC)
OC10xx DS260 submitted 10th may, document request 13th August (Slip)
OC11xx – DS260 submitted July 2021 (travellingrolo)
OC12xx DS260 submitted May (Going Abroad)
OC13xx (TPNewZealand)
OC15xx DS260 submitted 7th June (Sil2022)
OC16xx DS260 9th May Doc Request received August 10th (RK22)
OC20xx DS260 submitted June (Getmeoutahere)
OC21xx (AussieDV22)
OC 2200 (JayQue)
OC24xx DS260 submitted early June Doc Request received Aug 13th DQ September (Ryanscr)
OC24xx (NY9)
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This is great!!!

I'm 12xx submitted DS260 on 16th Aug, docs sent w/out request on 21st Aug.
 
Hi @Britsimon (Simon), I am 'Charlotte' from your Youtube video this morning.

We are limited to 200 characters for comments on the youtube comment thread during live videos so i couldn't include all the information as it 'cuts you off'. So there was information that I posted further down to clarify but you didn't get that far down the list and the 2nd comment you read of mine - i had retracted (removed) yet you could still see it. Sometimes, due to the 200 character limit the full picture cannot be seen which is not your fault, but it means that you don't see the full picture and questions can be answered out of context through no fault of your own.

I have watched every single one of your videos and have been following you closely on the forums.

My CN is 2022OC2xx I submitted my DS260 11th May 2021. I then sent documents in without request as per your instructions in June 2021. The email subject line was 2022OC000002xx. There was nothing else in the subject line.

You mentioned in a previous thread that you though the KCC system automatically sends through a DocRequest when the DS260 is opened. Did you mean when the DS260 is processed. Given that we submitted the DS260 11th May and that (Ryanscr OC24xx) submitted his DS260 in June, if it was when the DS260 was opened we should have received a doc request email by now if it is an automated KCC procedure.

I think I speak on behalf of a number of people when I say the confusion lies with why a DS260 that was submitted in June (OC2400) has been Doc Qualified when low case numbers under 300s who submitted DS260's within days of the DV lottery info being released haven't heard from KCC whether or not they have submitted docs proactively or not.

There are a number of us that have not heard from KCC that submitted DS260s prior to May15th and have proactively submitted documents. So I wonder if the automatic email from KCC is in fact when the DS260 has been processed as discussed above.

For my DS260 - could it be that my DS260 is taking longer to process as my education history is extensive with multiple Master's Degrees and Harvard qualifications (Medical Science and Education). I do not have an extensive travel history and I have not lived overseas.

I am very grateful for all your help and I will continue to follow you on the forums and through your YouTube videos. Your 'pay it forward' philosophy is very much in line with my values and I plan to personally thank you when i finally arrive in the US and will also find ways to pay it forward myself.

Thank you so much
Kind regards
Charlotte.

2022OC2**
DS-260 submitted May 11 EST
Documents Submitted w/o request June 29 EST
Family of 2 (husband & wife)
Haven’t heard from KCC yet – patiently waiting
 
Question for everyone who sent their docs - did you include your middle name when naming the documents? I just realised I sent mind only with first and last name and wondering if I need to submit again with full middle names.

Joe_Doe_Passport or
Joe_Middlename_Doe_Passport?

I was previously DQ'd for 2021 without the middle name so probably just over thinking it (but hey, what else is there to do in lockdown but question everything hah).
 
Melb2021 said:
Question for everyone who sent their docs - did you include your middle name when naming the documents? I just realised I sent mind only with first and last name and wondering if I need to submit again with full middle names.

Joe_Doe_Passport or
Joe_Middlename_Doe_Passport?

I was previously DQ'd for 2021 without the middle name so probably just over thinking it (but hey, what else is there to do in lockdown but question everything hah).
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Hi @Melb2021 we included our middle names.
 
Syd2022 said:
Hi Everyone,
I have gone through the 17 pages of comments to try and collate the data for OC we have so far to help everyone out. If you have any updates to the information i have below could you please let me know so that I can update the document. We are all here to help each other.

OCunder100 (Melb22)
OC2xx DS260 submitted 11th may documents submitted w/o request June 29 (Syd2022)
OC2xx - (AussieBrit)
OC2xx (C&R)
OC2xx DS260 submitted 18th June ; Docs submitted 3rd July (Rfiji)
OC3xx DS260 mid may (JPaus)
OC300 (Nilram)
OC4xx DS260 submitted docs sent August (jessie@fj)
OC4xx Doc request received August 10th (Lukearosa)
OC6xx DS submitted May, Doc Req Aug 10th docs sent August (AusOC)
OC8xx (kplo)
OC900 DS260 submitted – docs being prepared for submssion(DV2022OC)
OC10xx DS260 submitted 10th may, document request 13th August (Slip)
OC11xx – DS260 submitted July 2021 (travellingrolo)
OC12xx DS260 submitted May (Going Abroad)
OC13xx (TPNewZealand)
OC15xx DS260 submitted 7th June (Sil2022)
OC16xx DS260 9th May Doc Request received August 10th (RK22)
OC20xx DS260 submitted June (Getmeoutahere)
OC21xx (AussieDV22)
OC 2200 (JayQue)
OC24xx DS260 submitted early June Doc Request received Aug 13th DQ September (Ryanscr)
OC24xx (NY9)
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Great work!
Submitted DS-260 22nd May
Submitted Docs (without request) 2nd August
Haven't received doc request or DQ

Family of 2 also (husband and wife). We were also selected in DV2021 (received DQ) - but I am the principal applicant this time.
I also have a second nationality which could be the delay (as Simon mentioned in his live today).
 
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Syd2022 said:
Hi Everyone,
I have gone through the 17 pages of comments to try and collate the data for OC we have so far to help everyone out. If you have any updates to the information i have below could you please let me know so that I can update the document. We are all here to help each other.

OCunder100 (Melb22)
OC2xx DS260 submitted 11th may documents submitted w/o request June 29 (Syd2022)
OC2xx - (AussieBrit)
OC2xx (C&R)
OC2xx DS260 submitted 18th June ; Docs submitted 3rd July (Rfiji)
OC3xx DS260 mid may (JPaus)
OC300 (Nilram)
OC4xx DS260 submitted docs sent August (jessie@fj)
OC4xx Doc request received August 10th (Lukearosa)
OC6xx DS submitted May, Doc Req Aug 10th docs sent August (AusOC)
OC8xx (kplo)
OC900 DS260 submitted – docs being prepared for submssion(DV2022OC)
OC10xx DS260 submitted 10th may, document request 13th August (Slip)
OC11xx – DS260 submitted July 2021 (travellingrolo)
OC12xx DS260 submitted May (Going Abroad)
OC13xx (TPNewZealand)
OC15xx DS260 submitted 7th June (Sil2022)
OC16xx DS260 9th May Doc Request received August 10th (RK22)
OC20xx DS260 submitted June (Getmeoutahere)
OC21xx (AussieDV22)
OC 2200 (JayQue)
OC24xx DS260 submitted early June Doc Request received Aug 13th DQ September (Ryanscr)
OC24xx (NY9)
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Hi Syd2022,

I submitted my docs on 12/8..now awaiting for DQ email.
 
Britsimon said:
Ryan,

As has been pointed out your case seems a bit odd. I'd like to find out what caused you to go through DS260 and docs screening fast.

I understand you are a previous winner (3 times in a row???), so you presumably had been screened before. That is unusual and I wonder if that helped them rush your documents. I just can't imagine their systems are that smart though.

1. The other thing I thought of was your document email. What (precisely) was the subject line you used when you sent the documents?
2. You have an OC number - right? 2022OC24XX.
3. And your case is single applicant, with a simple travel and work history?

Love to see your answers on the above.

The only other thing that I wonder is the division of labor at kcc documents. It might be that they split the inbox based on region, and in that case OC (and SA) could experience a different result simply because there are far fewer responses in the "OC inbox" if such a thing exists.

Kate - similar questions to you - but wondering if there is anything that would have slowed your case processing (travel, work, applicants, unusual documents).
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Hi @Britsimon,
Yes, I was selected for further processing in years 20, 21 and 22 (quite high CN's in every one of these years unfortunately). I can't imagine that being screened before would've made too much of a difference either, surely they would have to treat each DS260 as a brand new case every year?
In response to your questions:
1. The precise subject line of the email - I used your website as a reference and listed the subject line that you recommend (with leading zero's of course).
2. Yes, OC case number 24XX
3. I don't know if it makes much of a difference when it comes to receiving doc request emails but my case is probably as simple as they come. Single applicant, no overseas travel history in the last 10 years, same job and address for the last 10 years, never married, no dependents, hardly any social media (Promise my life isn't as boring as it sounds!)


@Melb2021 and anyone else who was interested - I have never put my middle name in the document titles and it hasn't been a problem.

@Syd2022 Great work on collating all of that information. It will be interesting to see in what sort of order it updates over the coming months.
 
Ryanscr said:
Hi @Britsimon,
Yes, I was selected for further processing in years 20, 21 and 22 (quite high CN's in every one of these years unfortunately). I can't imagine that being screened before would've made too much of a difference either, surely they would have to treat each DS260 as a brand new case every year?
In response to your questions:
1. The precise subject line of the email - I used your website as a reference and listed the subject line that you recommend (with leading zero's of course).
2. Yes, OC case number 24XX
3. I don't know if it makes much of a difference when it comes to receiving doc request emails but my case is probably as simple as they come. Single applicant, no overseas travel history in the last 10 years, same job and address for the last 10 years, never married, no dependents, hardly any social media (Promise my life isn't as boring as it sounds!)


@Melb2021 and anyone else who was interested - I have never put my middle name in the document titles and it hasn't been a problem.

@Syd2022 Great work on collating all of that information. It will be interesting to see in what sort of order it updates over the coming months.
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OK - boring is good obviously.
 
Ryanscr said:
Hi @Britsimon,
Yes, I was selected for further processing in years 20, 21 and 22 (quite high CN's in every one of these years unfortunately). I can't imagine that being screened before would've made too much of a difference either, surely they would have to treat each DS260 as a brand new case every year?
In response to your questions:
1. The precise subject line of the email - I used your website as a reference and listed the subject line that you recommend (with leading zero's of course).
2. Yes, OC case number 24XX
3. I don't know if it makes much of a difference when it comes to receiving doc request emails but my case is probably as simple as they come. Single applicant, no overseas travel history in the last 10 years, same job and address for the last 10 years, never married, no dependents, hardly any social media (Promise my life isn't as boring as it sounds!)


@Melb2021 and anyone else who was interested - I have never put my middle name in the document titles and it hasn't been a problem.

@Syd2022 Great work on collating all of that information. It will be interesting to see in what sort of order it updates over the coming months.
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@Ryanscr, I so hope you make it all the way through this year. Fingers and toes crossed for you.
 
Syd2022 said:
Hi @Britsimon (Simon), I am 'Charlotte' from your Youtube video this morning.

We are limited to 200 characters for comments on the youtube comment thread during live videos so i couldn't include all the information as it 'cuts you off'. So there was information that I posted further down to clarify but you didn't get that far down the list and the 2nd comment you read of mine - i had retracted (removed) yet you could still see it. Sometimes, due to the 200 character limit the full picture cannot be seen which is not your fault, but it means that you don't see the full picture and questions can be answered out of context through no fault of your own.

I have watched every single one of your videos and have been following you closely on the forums.

My CN is 2022OC2xx I submitted my DS260 11th May 2021. I then sent documents in without request as per your instructions in June 2021. The email subject line was 2022OC000002xx. There was nothing else in the subject line.

You mentioned in a previous thread that you though the KCC system automatically sends through a DocRequest when the DS260 is opened. Did you mean when the DS260 is processed. Given that we submitted the DS260 11th May and that (Ryanscr OC24xx) submitted his DS260 in June, if it was when the DS260 was opened we should have received a doc request email by now if it is an automated KCC procedure.

I think I speak on behalf of a number of people when I say the confusion lies with why a DS260 that was submitted in June (OC2400) has been Doc Qualified when low case numbers under 300s who submitted DS260's within days of the DV lottery info being released haven't heard from KCC whether or not they have submitted docs proactively or not.

There are a number of us that have not heard from KCC that submitted DS260s prior to May15th and have proactively submitted documents. So I wonder if the automatic email from KCC is in fact when the DS260 has been processed as discussed above.

For my DS260 - could it be that my DS260 is taking longer to process as my education history is extensive with multiple Master's Degrees and Harvard qualifications (Medical Science and Education). I do not have an extensive travel history and I have not lived overseas.

I am very grateful for all your help and I will continue to follow you on the forums and through your YouTube videos. Your 'pay it forward' philosophy is very much in line with my values and I plan to personally thank you when i finally arrive in the US and will also find ways to pay it forward myself.

Thank you so much
Kind regards
Charlotte.

2022OC2**
DS-260 submitted May 11 EST
Documents Submitted w/o request June 29 EST
Family of 2 (husband & wife)
Haven’t heard from KCC yet – patiently waiting
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The only thing that made me wince is the medical science bit. There is a question (and concern) about "specialized skills" including biological and chemical training. You may have selected "yes" to that question, and even if you did not your education might have prompted the contractor to get an "opinion" about whether your medical science education created some additional screening need- but that's just a guess. It could be something else entirely, because yes it sounds like your DS260 wasn't cleared yet.

There is something I should have added to my earlier notes. There is a connection between the kccdocuments department and the DS260. In order to decide what documents are needed, the kccdocuments team would need to somehow know what documents your case should "expect". That probably means there is a strong chance that DS260 processing affects the document processing.
 
AusOC said:
Hey Simon,
Doc email subject line exactly as instructed - 2022OC000006XX
We are couple, first time winners, minimal(?) travel history (only US/UK/Singapore/Japan/Vietnam in last 5 years)
The only thing that may have delayed on the doc processing side is that my ds260 was finally unlocked (and resubmitted) the same week as doc request email, with an amendment that required an additional document to be sent (note that this document had been included every time I sent docs, just needed updating on the form).
Not sure if document processing team have a list of documents to check when they receive the file/case? Or if they only cross reference the documents required with the ds260 form as they are reviewing.
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Hmmm the mismatch between docs and DS260 would probably have caused problems. And 5 countries in 5 years is not minimal. :rolleyes:

I believe the DS260 processing informs the docs team what docs should be expected - but I'm not sure exactly how that works (like who does what).
 
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