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MarkoGrujić said:
I think that this lawsuit is going to destroy itself.There is no way that they will prioritize 25000 people.That is just to much people and so little time.There will be nothing for reservation of visas because law clearly say that when October 1 comes,current dv is over an next starts.If Mehta had power,he would have immediately ordered DOS to start issuing visas,but he has no such power and that is why he is silent all this time. This lawsuit is going to destroy itself and our Goh lawsuit just for one reason:free of charge for anyone who want to join.
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I respect your opinion. But let us wait and see what happens rather than jumping into conclusions. If we were to come to such conclusions, it was best not to sign up for the lawsuit. Stay positive and keep hope. Let life take its course.
 
puda said:
1) Goh and Goodluck are completely separate so no idea how it would destroy Goh
2) It's NOT free of charge for most countries out there. And it certainly won't be free of charge IF the plaintiffs end up getting their visa
3) Just a reminder that Judge Mehta has yet to decide what to do with the 9,000+ reserved visas. And of course he is not "being silent" like you are saying. He has other things to do and the DV2020 suit is one of them. He didn't give any ETA so yeah, you need to be patient.

Curtis Morrison and team always said that it could go either way and since no one ever did that before, no one can predict the outcome. So, I would refrain from trying. (And say BS)
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1) There is a high chance that Goh and Goodluck will be consolidated, but we will know next week or so. Both cases are almost identical with the same issues.
 
PhantomHigh said:
1) There is a high chance that Goh and Goodluck will be consolidated, but we will know next week or so. Both cases are almost identical with the same issues.
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I always heard Morrison saying it wouldn't be consolidated. What makes you think that it will be?
 
Was Goh case without any downpayment for everyone ? How many cases are there?
I agree with Marco, such a high number of plaintiffs will destroy it .. unfortunately
 
Erika_erika said:
Was Goh case without any downpayment for everyone ? How many cases are there?
I agree with Marco, such a high number of plaintiffs will destroy it .. unfortunately
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Goh had a once-off payment of $1500 for the first week, then $2000 for the remaining of the registration period which was another week. Then they started adding another round of plaintiffs somewhere in May I believe, which was also for $2000.

So yeah for Goh, it had always been a once-off payment.

Number of plaintiffs in Goh is just below a thousand, according to Charles.
 
Thanks for reply. Do you think the number of plaintiffs can somehow influence one way or another the decision of judges (e.g. 24 k plaintiffs VS 1k)? I reckon obviously it does influence very unfavourably..but maybe the justice system works differently in the US? I know these discussions are kind of futile..but why not
 
Of course the large number of plaintiffs has influence. I cannot say if it will be a positive or a negative one though.

If the judge Mehta issues a favorable order for Goh plaintiffs (if Goh doesn't get consolidated with Goodluck) , then the Government will definitely be able to process ±1500 visas in 2.5 months before Sept 30th 2021 deadline (Assuming the judge issues an order around 15th July 2021).

On the other hand, if Goh gets consolidated with Goodluck, then it is impossible for ±26000 plaintiffs to get processed before the deadline. Which raises the need for preservation of visas beyond the Sept 30th deadline.

The problem is there are 9095 visas from DV20. What if the Judge orders them to be issued? Will that cause delays for DV21 plaintiffs of either case? What about DV22? No body really knows what will happen. Litigation is really unpredictable. So let's wait and see what happens.

Goodluck for all DV20, DV21, and DV22 selectees :)
 
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yummmmyy said:
I created a couple of threads today on the major boards but they were deleted instantly. Admin considered them as off topic or too political I supporse..
This is only one remained.

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You should delete that thread. The comments are absolutely insane and downright offensive. Unsure what you were expecting from 4chan though?
 
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Consolidation is possible but the chance is not that high. They have different goals:
Charles Kuck: Wish their plaintiffs to get their visa before 30/Sep
Curtis Morrison: Wish to preserve visa for their plaintiffs
The approach is not the same
 
puda said:
You should delete that thread. The comments are absolutely insane and downright offensive. Unsure what you were expecting from 4chan though?
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Curtis told us to share that news on media. People in my country is too clueless about this matter to share with so I shared it on an American board.
I know so many trolls out there but some of the are taking it seriously.
 
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wowongng said:
Consolidation is possible but the chance is not that high. They have different goals:
Charles Kuck: Wish their plaintiffs to get their visa before 30/Sep
Curtis Morrison: Wish to preserve visa for their plaintiffs
The approach is not the same
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No that's not true, They both are Mandamus cases if visas get issued, if not they request to reserve the visas.
I'm not certain if they get consolidated but I know they both either get succeeded or failed.
 
PhantomHigh said:
.. And if that doesn't happen, reserve the visas for plaintiffs beyond the 30/Sept deadline.


Of course. A case with a 1000 plaintiffs will surely have a different approach than another case with 25000 plaintiffs.
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It is possible to reserve 1000 visas for plaintiffs only.
As Charles Kuck has mentioned, the gov has requested the information of Goh plaintiffs including case no to track their progress. They may push KCC to do something before the final hearing.
Please tell other Goh plaintiffs if you are also a Goh plaintiff and your doc confirmation is completed in these days!
 
niafara said:
No that's not true, They both are Mandamus cases if visas get issued, if not they request to reserve the visas.
I'm not certain if they get consolidated but I know they both either get succeeded or failed.
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I know, but I am talking about the difference in solution
Charles Kuck hopes 1K visas are issued before Sep 30. It is hard but still possible.
But you would not expect 20K visas are issued before Sep 30 right? So Curtis Morrison will focus on reserving visas mainly
 
wowongng said:
It is possible to reserve 1000 visas for plaintiffs only.
As Charles Kuck has mentioned, the gov has requested the information of Goh plaintiffs including case no to track their progress. They may push KCC to do something before the final hearing.
Please tell other Goh plaintiffs if you are also a Goh plaintiff and your doc confirmation is completed in these days!
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Yeah I really hope they start working on our list before final hearing date!

So far, few to none of Goh plaintiffs have got any movement on their cases, which means that KCC didn't start working on the list yet. The only way to know if KCC has actually started processing Goh plaintiffs is by seeing tens of Goh plaintiffs getting movement on their cases all the same time or at close time intervals. Which did not happen yet.

If they actually do that, then that would be considered a win already because the idea of the whole lawsuit is to get movement on plaintiffs' cases before deadline :)
 
wowongng said:
It is possible to reserve 1000 visas for plaintiffs only.
As Charles Kuck has mentioned, the gov has requested the information of Goh plaintiffs including case no to track their progress. They may push KCC to do something before the final hearing.
Please tell other Goh plaintiffs if you are also a Goh plaintiff and your doc confirmation is completed in these days!
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They always request this list to check the plaintiff's files, and try to find anything to tell the judge that the delay is from plaintiff's side (ds260 not processed, some documents were not sent ... etc) and ask the judge to dismiss the case.

The same happened in our case so this is normal move, not a power move from the lawyer
 
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