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Erika_erika said:
I was wondering, is it good or bad that there is such a high number of plaintiffs ?
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To be real I didn't expected that much but I think it's an amazing number of plaintiffs. I want to hear the government and KCC arguments now.:D We doesn't know who will be the judge but I hope that number of plaintiffs will lead to a fair and faster decision.
 
I think that this lawsuit is going to destroy itself.There is no way that they will prioritize 25000 people.That is just to much people and so little time.There will be nothing for reservation of visas because law clearly say that when October 1 comes,current dv is over an next starts.If Mehta had power,he would have immediately ordered DOS to start issuing visas,but he has no such power and that is why he is silent all this time. This lawsuit is going to destroy itself and our Goh lawsuit just for one reason:free of charge for anyone who want to join.
 
1) Goh and Goodluck are completely separate so no idea how it would destroy Goh
2) It's NOT free of charge for most countries out there. And it certainly won't be free of charge IF the plaintiffs end up getting their visa
3) Just a reminder that Judge Mehta has yet to decide what to do with the 9,000+ reserved visas. And of course he is not "being silent" like you are saying. He has other things to do and the DV2020 suit is one of them. He didn't give any ETA so yeah, you need to be patient.

Curtis Morrison and team always said that it could go either way and since no one ever did that before, no one can predict the outcome. So, I would refrain from trying. (And say BS)
 
MarkoGrujić said:
I think that this lawsuit is going to destroy itself.There is no way that they will prioritize 25000 people.That is just to much people and so little time.There will be nothing for reservation of visas because law clearly say that when October 1 comes,current dv is over an next starts.If Mehta had power,he would have immediately ordered DOS to start issuing visas,but he has no such power and that is why he is silent all this time. This lawsuit is going to destroy itself and our Goh lawsuit just for one reason:free of charge for anyone who want to join.
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Nothing is free buddy :)

But I agree that the number of plaintiffs in Goodluck is unexpectedly large.
That could be a huge advantage or a disaster, only time will tell.
 
MarkoGrujić said:
I think that this lawsuit is going to destroy itself.There is no way that they will prioritize 25000 people.That is just to much people and so little time.There will be nothing for reservation of visas because law clearly say that when October 1 comes,current dv is over an next starts.If Mehta had power,he would have immediately ordered DOS to start issuing visas,but he has no such power and that is why he is silent all this time. This lawsuit is going to destroy itself and our Goh lawsuit just for one reason:free of charge for anyone who want to join.
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I respect your opinion. But let us wait and see what happens rather than jumping into conclusions. If we were to come to such conclusions, it was best not to sign up for the lawsuit. Stay positive and keep hope. Let life take its course.
 
puda said:
1) Goh and Goodluck are completely separate so no idea how it would destroy Goh
2) It's NOT free of charge for most countries out there. And it certainly won't be free of charge IF the plaintiffs end up getting their visa
3) Just a reminder that Judge Mehta has yet to decide what to do with the 9,000+ reserved visas. And of course he is not "being silent" like you are saying. He has other things to do and the DV2020 suit is one of them. He didn't give any ETA so yeah, you need to be patient.

Curtis Morrison and team always said that it could go either way and since no one ever did that before, no one can predict the outcome. So, I would refrain from trying. (And say BS)
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1) There is a high chance that Goh and Goodluck will be consolidated, but we will know next week or so. Both cases are almost identical with the same issues.
 
PhantomHigh said:
1) There is a high chance that Goh and Goodluck will be consolidated, but we will know next week or so. Both cases are almost identical with the same issues.
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I always heard Morrison saying it wouldn't be consolidated. What makes you think that it will be?
 
Was Goh case without any downpayment for everyone ? How many cases are there?
I agree with Marco, such a high number of plaintiffs will destroy it .. unfortunately
 
Erika_erika said:
Was Goh case without any downpayment for everyone ? How many cases are there?
I agree with Marco, such a high number of plaintiffs will destroy it .. unfortunately
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Goh had a once-off payment of $1500 for the first week, then $2000 for the remaining of the registration period which was another week. Then they started adding another round of plaintiffs somewhere in May I believe, which was also for $2000.

So yeah for Goh, it had always been a once-off payment.

Number of plaintiffs in Goh is just below a thousand, according to Charles.
 
Thanks for reply. Do you think the number of plaintiffs can somehow influence one way or another the decision of judges (e.g. 24 k plaintiffs VS 1k)? I reckon obviously it does influence very unfavourably..but maybe the justice system works differently in the US? I know these discussions are kind of futile..but why not
 
Of course the large number of plaintiffs has influence. I cannot say if it will be a positive or a negative one though.

If the judge Mehta issues a favorable order for Goh plaintiffs (if Goh doesn't get consolidated with Goodluck) , then the Government will definitely be able to process ±1500 visas in 2.5 months before Sept 30th 2021 deadline (Assuming the judge issues an order around 15th July 2021).

On the other hand, if Goh gets consolidated with Goodluck, then it is impossible for ±26000 plaintiffs to get processed before the deadline. Which raises the need for preservation of visas beyond the Sept 30th deadline.

The problem is there are 9095 visas from DV20. What if the Judge orders them to be issued? Will that cause delays for DV21 plaintiffs of either case? What about DV22? No body really knows what will happen. Litigation is really unpredictable. So let's wait and see what happens.

Goodluck for all DV20, DV21, and DV22 selectees :)
 
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yummmmyy said:
I created a couple of threads today on the major boards but they were deleted instantly. Admin considered them as off topic or too political I supporse..
This is only one remained.

/news/ - Diversity is an American Strength - Current News - 4chan

Diversity is an American Strength - "/news/ - Current News; is 4chan's board for current news.
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You should delete that thread. The comments are absolutely insane and downright offensive. Unsure what you were expecting from 4chan though?
 
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Consolidation is possible but the chance is not that high. They have different goals:
Charles Kuck: Wish their plaintiffs to get their visa before 30/Sep
Curtis Morrison: Wish to preserve visa for their plaintiffs
The approach is not the same
 
puda said:
You should delete that thread. The comments are absolutely insane and downright offensive. Unsure what you were expecting from 4chan though?
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Curtis told us to share that news on media. People in my country is too clueless about this matter to share with so I shared it on an American board.
I know so many trolls out there but some of the are taking it seriously.
 
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