Thank you, just emailed and called and they told me that if it doesn't get emailed to me by the end of next week then I should call them again at that time...
DV 2020 AOS Only
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Sm1smom
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Frankly speaking, all you needed to do was just email them. No need following up with a phone call, the response from phone calls are usually unreliable. An email is a documented record, which makes the response much more reliable.
asm_dv
Active Member
I am the selectee and all of my high-school diplomas are originally in English and my bachelor is from US and Masters from Singapore which is already accredited. So, I didnt need to submit evaluation or translation.
However, my wife is the derivative applicant and her high-school and bachelors were in her country and required translation. We did it through her embassy and submitted the original translation. As she is not the selectee hence her degree didnt need evaluation but her Masters is accredited and needed no translation so we sent that as it is.
But just to be safe and make sure USCIS finds no reason to request for more paperwork we submitted everything in terms of education certificates and translation when required. Just didnt submit the evaluation for wife as she is not the selectee.
dvelopp
Active Member
For the information: usces.org seems to be doing these evaluations.
I just sent my wife's master diploma and my diploma for evaluation.
Price is 150$ for one diploma (5-7 days), but I paid additional 99$ to get it within 1 business day.
I will post the update on how it went once it's ready.
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P.S. I hope I don't need to pay for the evaluations for all the diplomas? Cause it would be quite expensive (I only ordered the highest degree)
I just sent my wife's master diploma and my diploma for evaluation.
Price is 150$ for one diploma (5-7 days), but I paid additional 99$ to get it within 1 business day.
I will post the update on how it went once it's ready.
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P.S. I hope I don't need to pay for the evaluations for all the diplomas? Cause it would be quite expensive (I only ordered the highest degree)
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
Admittedly, a DV derivative is not required to submit educational documents, however, your wife’s degree(s), minus the HS Diploma, should have been evaluated per I-944 requirements. The evaluation requirement is based on the I-944 Self Sufficiency instruction, nothing to do with being the DV selectee or derivative.
dvelopp
Active Member
Hey Sm1smom,
I do understand that it's written clearly in the instructions that for all degrees/education there should be evaluations.
However, from the experience of people who were on this forum this or last year, was that a strict requirement to have it for all not just highest.
Because I would assume many people have a few degrees including their derivatives and it would cost ~ 1000$ for them just to get these evaluations. (for example in my case - my wife and I both have high school diplomas, junior specialist diploma(college in my country -3 years of study), bachelor diploma, master diploma - except for high school diploma it's 3 degrees to verify. If the price is 150$ for the degree, it means I would cost me around 900$). Usually, when you have master diploma other degrees don't matter, you just show the highest to everyone, but, I'm not sure if that's how USCIS works...
P.S.
Read the previous message more attentively and have got some misunderstanding(maybe I'm reading it incorrectly). Both my wife and I submit I-944 and this form should be done according to the instructions. Instructions say that degrees should be evaluated (on both forms). But from the message, I can read that only my wife degree should be evaluated. That's why I'm confused a little.
I do understand that it's written clearly in the instructions that for all degrees/education there should be evaluations.
However, from the experience of people who were on this forum this or last year, was that a strict requirement to have it for all not just highest.
Because I would assume many people have a few degrees including their derivatives and it would cost ~ 1000$ for them just to get these evaluations. (for example in my case - my wife and I both have high school diplomas, junior specialist diploma(college in my country -3 years of study), bachelor diploma, master diploma - except for high school diploma it's 3 degrees to verify. If the price is 150$ for the degree, it means I would cost me around 900$). Usually, when you have master diploma other degrees don't matter, you just show the highest to everyone, but, I'm not sure if that's how USCIS works...
P.S.
Read the previous message more attentively and have got some misunderstanding(maybe I'm reading it incorrectly). Both my wife and I submit I-944 and this form should be done according to the instructions. Instructions say that degrees should be evaluated (on both forms). But from the message, I can read that only my wife degree should be evaluated. That's why I'm confused a little.
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Sm1smom
Super Moderator
I-944 Self Sufficiency form is a new requirement which came into effect on February 24th 2019. The intent of the form, IMO, is to make AOS a difficult, much more expensive, and frustrating experience for people. It is one of the new anti-immigration measure (again IMO) introduced by the current administration. So you’ll have to decide if you want to dance by the new tunes or figure out what you think makes sense for you to do.
The past messages you’ve been reading were prior to the I-944 introduction, that’s why there’s no hardly any mention of degree evaluation.
dvelopp
Active Member
Thanks for the explanation.
I thought it was there for ages.
But, yeah, it's a pity to have so many complications this year (from covid and stricter rules).
Did anyone from those who sent the package earlier(this year - when USCIS wasn't closed for in-person services) include not all the evaluations? I'm just interested if it worked for you?
I thought it was there for ages.
But, yeah, it's a pity to have so many complications this year (from covid and stricter rules).
Did anyone from those who sent the package earlier(this year - when USCIS wasn't closed for in-person services) include not all the evaluations? I'm just interested if it worked for you?
SusieQQQ
Well-Known Member
It came into effect just a few weeks before uscis closed, unlikely to be much feedback - probably too soon for anything with that to have been processed?
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
You’ll not find a response to that question considering this new requirement became effective on Feb 24th, USCIS stopped in person service about one month (more or less) after that date.
Not enough time between when the form became effective and when USCIS reduced service came into effect for an interview or approval of those cases to have happened.
When I was signing up for Masters here in USA, I have had my Bachelor's degree evaluated by WES (wes.org) which is one of the institutions that do these kind of evaluations for colleges. I have results of that evaluation with me. Is it OK if I send this evaluation, alongside copies of my original diploma's and transript?
Obviously, I have the evaluation just for the college degree, not for the High School.
Obviously, I have the evaluation just for the college degree, not for the High School.
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
1. Yes.
2. You wouldn’t have an I-797 if you’ve never applied for any immigration benefit from USCIS in the past.
3. Getting an I-134 is recommended in that case.
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
US embassies do not issue I-797, this is a USCIS issued document.
Dear Mom,
I have two questions regarding employment letter. I couldn’t find in the instructions to any of the forms I-485, I-944, I-693 explicit reference to this document. On the other hand, the employment letter is mentioned in the Excel AOS Package in section 6 Employment Documents, though with a note “if applicable”.
1. Is such an employment letter required to be submitted as part of any type of evidence to some form or for some other reason ?
2. If yes, what info should that letter contain ?
Thank you!
I have two questions regarding employment letter. I couldn’t find in the instructions to any of the forms I-485, I-944, I-693 explicit reference to this document. On the other hand, the employment letter is mentioned in the Excel AOS Package in section 6 Employment Documents, though with a note “if applicable”.
1. Is such an employment letter required to be submitted as part of any type of evidence to some form or for some other reason ?
2. If yes, what info should that letter contain ?
Thank you!
I have F1 visa. Can someone provide me the link?!
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
Did you see my response to your initial/actual question?
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
1. Employment letter, while not specifically listed on the I-485 is one of the acceptable ways of overcoming the possibility of being considered a public charge.
2. Most organizations have standard employment letters which they issue when a job offer is made or employment verification letter which shows when you were hired, job title, earning, etc. Talk to your employer.
dvelopp
Active Member
I just got appraisals for my apartments. Each document is 30 pages. (2 documents)
Do you guys include and translate all the pages for your package or only the page with a conclusion?
(there are 2 pages with summary and conclusion and 28 pages with details on how the price is evaluated with the examples of prices for other apartments in that area).
Do you guys include and translate all the pages for your package or only the page with a conclusion?
(there are 2 pages with summary and conclusion and 28 pages with details on how the price is evaluated with the examples of prices for other apartments in that area).