DV 2020 All Selectees
- Thread starter Sm1smom
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You don't need a 2NL to join the case.
Airspray
Active Member
But what if I don't even have my documents processed? Can he "force" KCC to process them if he wins the lawsuit? And what about embassy closure? Can the lawsuit force the embassy to accomodate you as an emergency interview?
There are other factors going on besides the ban...
Soophie
Active Member
So he will communicate also with Kcc in my case to force them to send me my 2NL if his mandamus will work?
Airspray
Active Member
Also, I wonder about the timeframe of this lawsuit. Assuming he will file it July 8th and the decision is made on the spot, that gives us about 2-3 weeks for KCC to process the documents and send 2NLs as the last 2NLs for 2020 are sent by the end of July. Unless this lawsuit will make them do it later...
That sounds questionable
Airspray
Active Member
Question is if having them submitted is the equirement or having them processed which is a different story...The only requirements he needs you to have completed are to have submitted a valid and completed DS-260 and submitted all supporting documentation to KCC. I recommend contacting him directly with your questions, as he is the expert
I will contact him later today, see what he has to say...
SusieQQQ
Well-Known Member
Yes, independent legal corroboration of what is fact and what is marketing might be warranted.
Fabulous idea rather than spending reams of forum speculating when most people here will not be joining.I recommend contacting him directly with your questions, as he is the expert
Ahmad_AS
Member
Please let me know the outcome. Thanks.
Soophie
Active Member
Yes, I contacted him with this question about 2NL but he never answered me. I have all my documents processed and my 2NL ready too from April , but KCC can’t send me it because of embassies closureThe only requirements he needs you to have completed are to have submitted a valid and completed DS-260 and submitted all supporting documentation to KCC. I recommend contacting him directly with your questions, as he is the expert
Sm1smom
Super Moderator
Yup! All I see from this are contributions towards someone’s plan for their upcoming 2021 car purchase.
SusieQQQ
Well-Known Member
Gonna be a Maybach at this rate.
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With no disrespect to the owner of this site and with no knowledge of the particular lawyer involved in this particular lawsuit, I would just like to mention here as a general objective comment that lawyers in the US are not always like the lawyers you might know back home. Some of them are ...let’s say... a little aggressive on their marketing and representing what they can and can’t do. I’m not saying this lawyer is over representing, I have no idea, I’m just saying... do your homework. Caveat emptor.
Peince
Active Member
I don't know about others . But for me it would be putting some of my life serving into unknown . Any law suit might win or lose . Then the entire DV process is a privilege not a right . Like even if Curtis case wins , the KCC or the embassy can easily say that they don't have time / or don't want to process the case of those joining the group .
That's how I see it . I would like to join but also I don't want to let a blind desire to something makes me throw my money into an unknown process .
Peince
Active Member
A Maybach ????? That would be such a happy purchase then
I think it's a fair comment Susie, however as each day progresses, it appears that DV2020 winners are losing out on the little hope left for a successful outcome. To me, Curtis Morrison has been very transparent in what the challenges are which stand in the way of a successful mandamus case, but on the alternate side there is definitely a case for him to present on our behalf. He has also made available all the case law which he will rely on to present his argument. My main point is that I don't think it's fair to suggest that someone is looking to pay off a new car, when in all honesty he is the only one supplying us with a real solution at this late and somewhat grim stage in the game. Not everyone can afford to pay a lawyer to assist them, and most won't, however those that can afford to, need to know that there is this option available.
SusieQQQ
Well-Known Member
Yes, he gets full payment from anyone whose visa is issued after they filed, regardless whether it is due to the case or not. Even if it’s the day after filing and can’t possibly be due to anything to do with this.
I mean, I can kind of understand why people are going in on this. I’m not a lawyer at all but not sure of some of the arguments. I personally would like to see what part of the law says that they have a non-discretionary duty to adjudicate before 30 September. Because we definitely know cases where they just haven’t. He also mentions two previous cases but doesn’t cite the actual cases or give links to them, again I personally would like to have read those and see how comparable they are before committing my money.
Again, this guy could be totally 100% on the money and have a solid case, I’d personally like to see a little more before stumping up.
And again not commenting on this case specifically but mandamus just forces a decision. Plenty of past cases where that decision has been a denial becasue they are not actually ready to adjudicate. Now I don’t think that would be the case for DV - but I’d like to know for sure.
so you say he has made all the case law available, is that after you pay because all I see on the site is a reference to two unnamed cases?
it would also be great in my opinion if you guys could actually set up a separate thread to discuss this lawsuit rather than cluttering the normal day to day DV conversation. In that vein, I’m personally not discussing it in this particular thread anymore after this.